You sir, must be their target audience then. And that's fine, but Wind> Tunnel used to give a lot more coverage to other deserving forms of > racing,> which I thought was way more cool than "yet another NASCAR show", like > there> aren't enough already.>

I agree. One of the big things in both Champ Car (or its name this year) > and> the IRL is the basic lack of Americans in the driver's seats. It's not all> international obviously, but there are a lot more foreign accents in the> open wheel paddocks around the US than most people would realise IMO.

I'm just still pissed that there are 2 series. There needs to be one, that> races ovals and road/street courses, and EVERYONE needs to be at Indy that> can time their way in.

I admit, even without any racing at Rockingham, that I'm lucky to have> access to all sorts of other racing here in NC. I mean, could I have > bought> $15,000 worth of race car, trailor and accessories and been able to race> Baby Grands in BumCluck Midwesttown? Probably not. And between Hickory,> Bowman Grey, East Carolina, Carroway, South Boston, Ace, Kenly, Myrtle> Beach, et al, I have access to great weekly shows that often include pro> touring series like the Hooters PC and even ARCA. And if that isn't > enough,> there are sometimes people that are turned away from the local 4 cylinder> classes at tracks in my own county, because of the sheer number of> entries...and to think, that sprint car racing is starting to popup around> here in better numbers, the future looks pretty good. My old hometown's> local track there in Fayetteville NC even has(had) a few sprint car races> listed in their schedule for last season, and I assume this coming season> too. I'd love to follow local sprint car racing, if it could just fully> catch on here, and take off.>

I've actually talked to Ernie Irvan a few times in my day, as he drove a> Lafyette Ford sponsored car around the South here for a while (and I was> related to several LF employees at the time). Seems to me that he was a> really neat guy to hang out with at the track. I think he is or was trying> to get into the sprint car action coming of age here in the Carolinas the> last time I heard about him.>

Our Local Dirt tracks here, outside St. Louis got together and decided to> run on different nights.>

US67 Raceway (Godfrey, IL) runs on Friday night,>

I-55 (in Pevely, MO and owned by Ken Schrader) runs on Saturday night,>

and Tri-City (Granite City/Pontoon Beach, IL) runs on Sunday night.>

"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68@­yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:EzpNf.53579$%8­4.8468@tornado.south­east.rr.com...>

Without making this a new battleground for the RASI wars, I don't know > that the IRL has any reason to merge with OWRS (I refuse to call it Champ > Car since champ cars are a whole different animal, they just stole the > name when they couldn't use Indycar). And what makes you think that any > team can't come to Indy and time their way in? As far as I am concerned, > there is only one series. The other is just a sophisticated go cart > series with an annoying Canadian.

Danica Patrick isn't canadian is she?>

You Tony George sheep are just as stupid as republicans. Look at what he > did to Indy? Unless Penske fields 15 cars in may, they will be lucky to > have 7 rows of cars taking the green. Your restrictor plate series is > hanging on the success of a talentless over-hyped piece of snatch and i'm > not talking about kathering legge. Oh, if it was only 1995 again...>

"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68@­yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:EzpNf.53579$%8­4.8468@tornado.south­east.rr.com...> >

Watch out now, you may be accused of being xenophobic. I, for one, do not> mind the "international" flavor to open wheel, I just feel that there is a> need for a stronger domestic presence, as well as a more domestic

Without making this a new battleground for the RASI wars, I don't know

Lately, I get my racing jones by going up to Indiana. I missed my trips

May the last two years, but last summer's impromptu trip with the gf made

for a lot of what I missed. Those folks are just nuts about their racing.> Gotta love it.>

I sat with Ernie one Saturday night back in the mid 70's, when he was

open wheel racing out in California back then, Ernie was strictly a

the Watsonville area, racing winged dirt modifieds, which were peculiar to> that area.

Carey in Manvel>

That's a legitimate take. Even though they run Indy still every year, it> just isn't the same with a whole 'nother series out there with drivers > that> don't participate.

Yup, I liked ol Ernie in the NASCAR series, and hated very much that he > got> so banged up that he wasn't able to continue. He was a talented wheel man> IMO.>

Because people watch-simple as that. and to clarify I did say that NO > form of racing INCLUDING Nascar is "deserving" of any TV show.

"None40" <noway@noway.com> wrote in message > news:8YKNf.87752$B9­4.43537@pd7tw3no...>­>

I stand corrected, I did misread it. So, tell me, then about how another > racing series is to get exposure? It drives me nuts when I tune in ESPN > or their other networks only to see things like cheerleading competitions > or lawnmower racing. Man, there could be some real racing on in those > blocks.

Carey in Manvel>>

On Apr 11, 9:57 am, BOSSFA...@aol.com wrote:

wind tunnel tests are hardly done now, as there is next to no room for

modifications on the car. and the only difference between manufactors

is the nose. Remember last year at sonoma, gordon and johsons teams

were hit with huge penalties for working in what letarte and knaus

believed were "gray areas". NASCAR is very strict on these cars...

I keep hearing that Penske is going to

build a tunnel in terms of "when" and not "if". He's got the room.

In article simracer68@yahoo.co­mSPAM wrote:

Don't forget, Penske isn't just in the NASCAR business.....

Dan

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Chuck Steak wrote:

don't they still have truck rental services? ­

Actually, wind tunnel testing has picked up considerably. There are

several of the larger teams seeking to build their own tunnels,

Everham & Penske, just to name a couple. Just a few years ago, there

was only 1 tunnel near Charlotte/Concord/M­ooresville. There are at

least 3 operating there today. I keep hearing that Penske is going to

build a tunnel in terms of "when" and not "if". He's got the room.

That Matsushita building he bought and moved into a couple years ago

is HUGE, so I assume the campus has enough room to support such a

project like a wind tuneel as well.

I thought Penske has had a wind tunnel for quite a while now.

No, they cannot futz with the body too much. But they can test the

affect of ride height, fore/aft splitter placement, and rear-wing

endplates in wind tunnels, and each of those is an area that teams

have some leeway in. They can certainly test the front suspension in a

tunnel by trying various setups under it while squashing the car down

as if it were downforce affected and g-loaded.

On Apr 11, 5:22 pm, SimRacer <NOsimrace...@yahoo­.comSPAM> wrote:

thats weird, i heard somewhere that teams have nearly given up on

windtunnels, as there is very little body work to do, and the areas

they can work on, they can use computer simulators and shaker post

rigs.I think penske's windtunnel may be for his IRL teams primarily