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Re: FIA presidents
A425couple 26 March 2005 23:25:14
	"Alessio Bragadini" <alessio@sevenseas.org> wrote in> Hi, I was editing the FIA entry on Wikipedia (at> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%E9d%E9ration_Internationale_de_l%> 27Automobile> but I am actually working on the Italian version) and I am left with an> incomplete list of FIA presidents that I would like to include in the> article. I've tried my best to look up sources on the Internet,> including FIA's own site, but apparently to no avail.> These are the names I have, knowing for sure that there have been 10> presidents since 1904:> * Etienne de Zuylen (1904-?)> * ?> * ?> * Paul von Metternich (1975-1986)> * Jean-Marie Balestre (1986-1993)> * Max Mosley (from 1993)> Any help, direction or extra information is much appreciated.> Alessio Bragadini <alessio@sevenseas.org> Hmm, I can't find a 'golden' source, might be a slow slog, But from my 1961/2 Automobible Year, "During it's October (1961?) session in Paris the International Sporting Commission of the International Automobible Federation elected Maurice Baumgartner as it's president." Opps, never mind,, so he was he President of CSI, not FIA. I should delete this post, but maybe this thought will help jog someone else.
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Brian Lawrence 27 March 2005 01:25:22 [ permanent link ]
	"a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote: "Alessio Bragadini" <alessio@sevenseas.org> wrote: Hi, I was editing the FIA entry on Wikipedia (at>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%E9d%E9ration_Internationale_de_l%>> 27Automobile>> but I am actually working on the Italian version) and I am left with an>> incomplete list of FIA presidents that I would like to include in the>> article. I've tried my best to look up sources on the Internet,>> including FIA's own site, but apparently to no avail.>> These are the names I have, knowing for sure that there have been 10>> presidents since 1904:>> * Etienne de Zuylen (1904-?)>> * ?>> * ?>> * Paul von Metternich (1975-1986)>> * Jean-Marie Balestre (1986-1993)>> * Max Mosley (from 1993)>> Any help, direction or extra information is much appreciated.>> Alessio Bragadini <alessio@sevenseas.org>> Hmm, I can't find a 'golden' source, might be a slow slog,> But from my 1961/2 Automobible Year,> "During it's October (1961?) session in Paris the> International Sporting Commission of the> International Automobible Federation elected> Maurice Baumgartner as it's president."> Opps, never mind,, so he was he President of CSI, not FIA.> I should delete this post, but maybe this thought will help jog> someone else. The FIA website has a "book" celebrating 100 years of the FIA, Chapter 16 is titled "Those who have presided". "The 10 presidents who have graced the FIA in its first 100 years: Baron Йtienne de Zuylen (France) 1904-1931 Count Robert de Vogьй (France) 1931-1936 Viscount Jehan de Rohan (France) 1936-1958 Count Hadelin de Liedekerke Beaufort (France) 1958-1963 Prince Filippo Caracciolo di Castagneto (Italy) 1963-1965 Wilfrid Andrews (Great Britain) 1965-1971 Prince Amaury de Merode (Belgium) 1971-1975 Prince Paul Alfons von Metternich (Germany) 1975-1986 Jean-Marie Balestre (France) 1986-1993 Max Mosley (Great Britain) from 1993" -- Brian Lawrence Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
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Brian Lawrence 27 March 2005 01:31:10 [ permanent link ]
	The FIA website has a "book" celebrating 100 years of the FIA, Chapter 16 is> titled "Those who have presided". http://www.fia.com/NONCMSCONTENT/100yrstimeline/Chapter_16.pdf Its a 1.2Mb file and includes biographies. -- Brian
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Alessio Bragadini 27 March 2005 03:07:05 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 21:25 +0000, Brian Lawrence wrote: The FIA website has a "book" celebrating 100 years of the FIA, Chapter 16 is> titled "Those who have presided". Well, that's just great, thank you very much. I didn't know about the FIA book and I will for sure read the downloaded files, they look packed with interesting information. Thanks again. -- Alessio Bragadini <alessio@sevenseas.org> Yet Another Usenet Node
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Brian Lawrence 27 March 2005 15:13:37 [ permanent link ]
	"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn.com> wrote: "a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:> But from my 1961/2 Automobible Year,>> "During it's October (1961?) session in Paris the>> International Sporting Commission of the>> International Automobible Federation elected>> Maurice Baumgartner as it's president.">> Opps, never mind,, so he was he President of CSI, not FIA.>> I should delete this post, but maybe this thought will help jog>> someone else. May be worth adding the Presidents of the CSI/FISA too. Rene de Knyff (France) 1922-46 Augustin Perouse (France) 1946-61 Maurice Baumgartner (?) 1961-70 Prince Metternich (Germany) 1970-75 Pierre Ugeux (Belgium) 1975-78 Jean-Marie Balestre (France) 1978-91 Max Mosley (Great Britain) 1991-93 The CSI was renamed & reorganised as the FISA in 1979, and was abolished in 1993. Most of its function was taken over by the World Motor Sports Council (WMSC). -- Brian Lawrence Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
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A425couple 28 March 2005 00:31:04 [ permanent link ]
	"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn.com> wrote> Maurice Baumgartner (?) 1961-70> Prince Metternich (Germany) 1970-75 Great info. Maybe I helped, maybe I confused,, AIR, Baumgartner was Swiss.
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Geoff May 28 March 2005 01:13:07 [ permanent link ]
	a425couple wrote:> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn.com> wrote> Maurice Baumgartner (?) 1961-70>>Prince Metternich (Germany) 1970-75> Great info. Maybe I helped, maybe I confused,,> AIR, Baumgartner was Swiss. http://www.nevarts.com/fisa says he was Swiss but I'm not too sure how accurate the information is on there, specifically, this bit, (right near the bottom): JMB is president of the FIA and FISA. The past/present presidents of the CSI/FISA are: '22-'46 Le Chevalier Rene de Knyff (Belgian) '46-'61 M Augustin Perouse (French) '61-'70 Maurice Baumgartner (Swiss) '70-'78 M Pierre Ugeux (Belgian) '78- JMB (Frog) </paste> Didn't know Frog was a nationality... MfG Geoff. -- Unofficial F1 Database: http://glibs.ssmmdd.co.uk/ Update: 22nd March, 2005 USENET Email address is a spam trap, send Emails to address in the DB
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Brian Lawrence 28 March 2005 12:13:05 [ permanent link ]
	"Geoff May" <BeateUndGeoff@t-online.de> wrote: a425couple wrote:>> Maurice Baumgartner (?) 1961-70>>>Prince Metternich (Germany) 1970-75>> Great info. Maybe I helped, maybe I confused,,>> AIR, Baumgartner was Swiss. I found Swiss too. http://www.nevarts.com/fisa says he was Swiss but I'm not too sure how accurate the information is > on there, specifically, this bit, (right near the bottom):> JMB is president of the FIA and FISA. The past/present presidents of the CSI/FISA are:> '22-'46 Le Chevalier Rene de Knyff (Belgian) '46-'61 M Augustin Perouse According to one of my books, de Knyff was born in Belgium but lived in France. In common with most of the early FIA (actually AIACR at the time) bigwigs he was an important member of the ACF (Automobile Club de France). He was also a prominent racer for Panhard in some city-to-city races. -- Brian
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