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Re: Media Bias

Scott 15 March 2005 19:13:20
 
"Chris Guynn" <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote in message
news:YTCZd.19566$YD­4.5048@newssvr12.new­s.prodigy.com...> "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904> >
The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.> >
The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school> within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).>
Let's see...>
Kerry negative articles... 12%> Bush negative articles... 36%>
That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.>
On the positive side, things were a little closer.>
Kerry positive articles... 30%> Bush positive articles... 20%>
That's only a 1.5x more positive towards Kerry. Interestingly, the
greatest> discrepancy happens you combine the stats.>
Kerry... 2.5x as likely to be positive as negative> Bush... almost 2x as likely to be negative as positive.>
AND all of that included Fox News. I wonder how slanted the numbers
become> if you take Fox out of the equation... That'd *probably* increase Kerry's> numbers in a positive way (for Kerry) and decrease Bush's numbers (more> negative towards Bush), so your divide would be even greater.

Anyone who utters, let alone puts forth, the idea that there is no liberal
media bias is simply a liar.


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Dazed And Confuzzed 15 March 2005 19:14:25 permanent link ]
 Scott wrote:
"Chris Guynn" <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote in message> news:YTCZd.19566$YD­4.5048@newssvr12.new­s.prodigy.com...>
"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message>>news:MqCZd­.11$_x.122@news.uswe­st.net...>>
The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.>>>
The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school>>within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).>>
Let's see...>>
Kerry negative articles... 12%>>Bush negative articles... 36%>>
That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.>>
On the positive side, things were a little closer.>>
Kerry positive articles... 30%>>Bush positive articles... 20%>>
That's only a 1.5x more positive towards Kerry. Interestingly, the>
greatest>
discrepancy happens you combine the stats.>>
Kerry... 2.5x as likely to be positive as negative>>Bush... almost 2x as likely to be negative as positive.>>
AND all of that included Fox News. I wonder how slanted the numbers>
become>
if you take Fox out of the equation... That'd *probably* increase Kerry's>>numbers in a positive way (for Kerry) and decrease Bush's numbers (more>>negative towards Bush), so your divide would be even greater.>
Anyone who utters, let alone puts forth, the idea that there is no liberal> media bias is simply a liar.>
or a fool

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Scott 15 March 2005 19:17:09 permanent link ]
 "dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast.ne­t> wrote in message
news:yICdnVStMLlNZq­vfRVn-3A@comcast.com­...
or a fool

No one can be that stupid and read.


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Dazed And Confuzzed 15 March 2005 19:30:35 permanent link ]
 Scott wrote:
"dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast.ne­t> wrote in message> news:yICdnVStMLlNZq­vfRVn-3A@comcast.com­...>
or a fool>
No one can be that stupid and read.>
see also "Fishbre"

--

The constitution promises freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM
religion. Think about it, It ain't that hard to figure out. If your
religion is none, then deal with it.

I strongly urge everyone reading this to check out WWW.anysoldier.com
and support our troops with a letter, a package or a donation.

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Scott 15 March 2005 19:38:17 permanent link ]
 
"dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast.ne­t> wrote in message
news:U6-dnfyzD8IHYq­vfRVn-ow@comcast.com­...> Scott wrote:
No one can be that stupid and read.> >
see also "Fishbre"

Like I said...


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Crownfield 15 March 2005 20:32:43 permanent link ]
 dazed and confuzzed wrote:>
Scott wrote:>
"dazed and confuzzed" <dedmann@comcast.ne­t> wrote in message> > news:yICdnVStMLlNZq­vfRVn-3A@comcast.com­...> >
or a fool> >
No one can be that stupid and read.> >
see also "Fishbre"

and carlito nisarel.

-->
The constitution promises freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM> religion. Think about it, It ain't that hard to figure out. If your> religion is none, then deal with it.>
I strongly urge everyone reading this to check out WWW.anysoldier.com> and support our troops with a letter, a package or a donation.
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Alan Street 15 March 2005 21:47:53 permanent link ]
 In article <YTCZd.19566$YD4.50­48@newssvr12.news.pr­odigy.com>, Chris
Guynn <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote:

€ "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message
€ news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­
€ > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904
€ >
€ > The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.
€ >
€ >
€
€ The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school
€ within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).
€
€ Let's see...
€
€ Kerry negative articles... 12%
€ Bush negative articles... 36%
€
€ That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.
€

Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.

Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much
more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting
the truth.
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Popeye 15 March 2005 22:01:00 permanent link ]
 
Alan Street wrote:>
Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.>
Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated
much> more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just
reporting> the truth.

That's just another highlight on your party losing such a race.

The Dems must just be loser city.

That's why I like watching West Wing so much.

It's our generations' last chance to see a Democrat in the
Whitehouse...

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Crownfield 15 March 2005 22:06:24 permanent link ]
 Alan Street wrote:>
In article <YTCZd.19566$YD4.50­48@newssvr12.news.pr­odigy.com>, Chris> Guynn <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote:>
€ "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> € news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> € > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904> € >> € > The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.> € >> € >> €> € The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school> € within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).> €> € Let's see...> €> € Kerry negative articles... 12%> € Bush negative articles... 36%> €> € That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.> €>
Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.>
Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much> more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting> the truth.

when it is biased, it is no longer the truth.
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Popeye 15 March 2005 22:35:56 permanent link ]
 
Alan Street wrote:
As I've been saying,

For 5 years,
the Republican party is> starting to feed on itself, and will probably go through a major> meltdown over the next four years.

Think positiiiiivvvve, dyood. :-)­

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Chris Guynn 16 March 2005 03:11:30 permanent link ]
 
"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_sa­n.rr.com> wrote in message
news:15032005094753­0829%agstreet@nonono­_san.rr.com...> In article <YTCZd.19566$YD4.50­48@newssvr12.news.pr­odigy.com>, Chris> Guynn <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote:>
? "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> ? news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> ? > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904> ? >> ? > The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.> ? >> ? >> ?> ? The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school> ? within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).> ?> ? Let's see...> ?> ? Kerry negative articles... 12%> ? Bush negative articles... 36%> ?> ? That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.> ?>
Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.>
Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much> more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting> the truth.

As a matter of fact, I did. However, the negative treatment of the Swift
boat vets group versus the rumors of Air National Guard discrepancies pretty
much killed that idea for me. I'd be happy to admit that it's possible that
Bush produced a somewhat higher percentage of negative news during that
time, but 24%? C'mon, you're surely kidding me, right?


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Popeye 16 March 2005 03:17:06 permanent link ]
 
Chris Guynn wrote:> "Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_sa­n.rr.com> wrote in message> news:15032005094753­0829%agstreet@nonono­_san.rr.com...> > In article <YTCZd.19566$YD4.50­48@newssvr12.news.pr­odigy.com>, Chris> > Guynn <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote:> >
? "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> > ? news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> > ? > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904> > ? >> > ? > The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.> > ? >> > ? >> > ?> > ? The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism
school> > ? within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).> > ?> > ? Let's see...> > ?> > ? Kerry negative articles... 12%> > ? Bush negative articles... 36%> > ?> > ? That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.> > ?> >
Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.> >
Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated
much> > more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just
reporting> > the truth.>
As a matter of fact, I did. However, the negative treatment of the
Swift> boat vets group versus the rumors of Air National Guard discrepancies
pretty> much killed that idea for me. I'd be happy to admit that it's
possible that> Bush produced a somewhat higher percentage of negative news during
that> time, but 24%? C'mon, you're surely kidding me, right?


Keep in mind, Bush was the only one actually -doing- any governing at
the time to derive negative comment.

Or for the last three decades, come to think of it.

Oh well, just makes the win more and more spectacular as it goes.

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Alan Street 16 March 2005 04:21:30 permanent link ]
 In article <1110928626.682607.­245280@l41g2000cwc.g­ooglegroups.com>,
Popeye <Buzcutt454@aol.com­> wrote:


€ > > Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.
€ > >
€ > > Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated
€ much
€ > > more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just
€ reporting
€ > > the truth.
€ >
€ > As a matter of fact, I did. However, the negative treatment of the
€ Swift
€ > boat vets group versus the rumors of Air National Guard discrepancies
€ pretty
€ > much killed that idea for me. I'd be happy to admit that it's
€ possible that
€ > Bush produced a somewhat higher percentage of negative news during
€ that
€ > time, but 24%? C'mon, you're surely kidding me, right?
€
€
€ Keep in mind, Bush was the only one actually -doing- any governing at
€ the time to derive negative comment.
€

Ah, yes. The old "better to do something, even if it's wrong, than to
be seen as indecisive."

€ Or for the last three decades, come to think of it.
€

Gee, that would exclude that icon of Republican leadership, Ronnie.

€ Oh well, just makes the win more and more spectacular as it goes.
€

The "win"?

You have a funny sense of good and bad.
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Crownfield 16 March 2005 04:24:48 permanent link ]
 Alan Street wrote:>
In article <42372420.52A2@cox.­net>, Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­>> wrote:>
€ Alan Street wrote:> € >> € > In article <YTCZd.19566$YD4.50­48@newssvr12.news.pr­odigy.com>, Chris> € > Guynn <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote:> € >> € > € "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> € > € news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> € > € > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904> € > € >> € > € > The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.> € > € >> € > € >> € > €> € > € The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school> € > € within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).> € > €> € > € Let's see...> € > €> € > € Kerry negative articles... 12%> € > € Bush negative articles... 36%> € > €> € > € That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.> € > €> € >> € > Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.> € >> € > Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much> € > more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting> € > the truth.> €> € when it is biased, it is no longer the truth.>
Circular logic.

only to a logically lost liberal.

If it is biased, it is not the truth.
truth is not biased.
logically obvious.
but that has never slowed a liberal.
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Popeye 16 March 2005 04:27:24 permanent link ]
 
Alan Street wrote:
€ Keep in mind, Bush was the only one actually -doing- any
governing at> € the time to derive negative comment.> €>
Ah, yes. The old "better to do something, even if it's wrong, than to> be seen as indecisive.">
€ Or for the last three decades, come to think of it.> €>
Gee, that would exclude that icon of Republican leadership, Ronnie.

And here I thought we were reffering to Kerry.
€ Oh well, just makes the win more and more spectacular as it
goes.>
The "win"?>
You have a funny sense of good and bad.

Q: Where's W?
A: The Whitehouse

Q: Where's Kerry?
A: Who?

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Alan Street 16 March 2005 04:34:23 permanent link ]
 In article <42377CD0.723B@cox.­net>, Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­>
wrote:

€ Alan Street wrote:
€ >
€ > In article <42372420.52A2@cox.­net>, Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­>
€ > wrote:
€ >
€ > € Alan Street wrote:
€ > € >
€ > € > In article <YTCZd.19566$YD4.50­48@newssvr12.news.pr­odigy.com>, Chris
€ > € > Guynn <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote:
€ > € >
€ > € > € "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message
€ > € > € news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­
€ > € > € > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904
€ > € > € >
€ > € > € > The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.
€ > € > € >
€ > € > € >
€ > € > €
€ > € > € The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school
€ > € > € within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).
€ > € > €
€ > € > € Let's see...
€ > € > €
€ > € > € Kerry negative articles... 12%
€ > € > € Bush negative articles... 36%
€ > € > €
€ > € > € That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.
€ > € > €
€ > € >
€ > € > Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.
€ > € >
€ > € > Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much
€ > € > more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting
€ > € > the truth.
€ > €
€ > € when it is biased, it is no longer the truth.
€ >
€ > Circular logic.
€
€ only to a logically lost liberal.
€
€ If it is biased, it is not the truth.
€ truth is not biased.
€ logically obvious.
€ but that has never slowed a liberal.


Wrong, Bob.

I said, "it's not bias when you're just reporting the truth." You then
went on to say biased reporting isn't the truth. One conclusion feeds
the other, which is circular logic. I assume you're playing this game
(Popeye would call it "a Jedi mind trick") because you can't refute my
initial statement, and because you have no way to disprove my
supposition that Bush gathered more negative reporting because there's
much more negative to report about him.

Care to try again :-)­
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Alan Street 16 March 2005 04:36:02 permanent link ]
 In article <1110932844.878115.­270900@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,
Popeye <Buzcutt454@aol.com­> wrote:

€ Alan Street wrote:
€
€ > € Keep in mind, Bush was the only one actually -doing- any
€ governing at
€ > € the time to derive negative comment.
€ > €
€ >
€ > Ah, yes. The old "better to do something, even if it's wrong, than to
€ > be seen as indecisive."
€ >
€ > € Or for the last three decades, come to think of it.
€ > €
€ >
€ > Gee, that would exclude that icon of Republican leadership, Ronnie.
€
€ And here I thought we were reffering to Kerry.
€

Three decades covers a lot of politicians, most bad.

€ > € Oh well, just makes the win more and more spectacular as it
€ goes.
€ >
€ > The "win"?
€ >
€ > You have a funny sense of good and bad.
€
€ Q: Where's W?
€ A: The Whitehouse
€
€ Q: Where's Kerry?
€ A: Who?
€

I thought you meant the citizens of the USA, not the smirking chimp.
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Dazed And Confuzzed 16 March 2005 05:50:35 permanent link ]
 Alan Street wrote:
In article <42377CD0.723B@cox.­net>, Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­>> wrote:>
Alan Street wrote:> >
In article <42372420.52A2@cox.­net>, Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­>> > wrote:> >
Alan Street wrote:> > >
In article <YTCZd.19566$YD4.50­48@newssvr12.news.pr­odigy.com>, Chris> > > Guynn <chris.guynn@gmail.­com> wrote:> > >
"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> > > news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> > > > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904> > > >
The best part is that they lost and continue to lose.> > > >
The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism school> > > within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).> > >
Let's see...> > >
Kerry negative articles... 12%> > > Bush negative articles... 36%> > >
That's 3 times as likely to be anti-bush... yep, no bias there.> > >
Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.> > >
Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much> > > more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting> > > the truth.> >
when it is biased, it is no longer the truth.> >
Circular logic.>
only to a logically lost liberal.>
If it is biased, it is not the truth.> truth is not biased.> logically obvious. > but that has never slowed a liberal.>
Wrong, Bob.>
I said, "it's not bias when you're just reporting the truth." You then> went on to say biased reporting isn't the truth. One conclusion feeds> the other, which is circular logic. I assume you're playing this game> (Popeye would call it "a Jedi mind trick") because you can't refute my> initial statement, and because you have no way to disprove my> supposition that Bush gathered more negative reporting because there's> much more negative to report about him.>
Care to try again :-)­
Then again, you could take off your glasses and see the fact that there
IS a bit of media bias. For references, start with "rathergate"....

There may be some truth to what you state, but to deny that there is
bias is beneath your reputation.

--

The constitution promises freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM
religion. Think about it, It ain't that hard to figure out. If your
religion is none, then deal with it.

I strongly urge everyone reading this to check out WWW.anysoldier.com
and support our troops with a letter, a package or a donation.

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Alan Street 16 March 2005 06:05:32 permanent link ]
 In article <puydnVJmnKF2DarfRV­n-hA@comcast.com>, dazed and confuzzed
<dedmann@comcast.ne­t> wrote:


€ > € > € > Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.
€ > € > € >
€ > € > € > Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated
€ > much
€ > € > € > more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just
€ > reporting
€ > € > € > the truth.
€ > € > €
€ > € > € when it is biased, it is no longer the truth.
€ > € >
€ > € > Circular logic.
€ > €
€ > € only to a logically lost liberal.
€ > €
€ > € If it is biased, it is not the truth.
€ > € truth is not biased.
€ > € logically obvious.
€ > € but that has never slowed a liberal.
€ >
€ >
€ > Wrong, Bob.
€ >
€ > I said, "it's not bias when you're just reporting the truth." You then
€ > went on to say biased reporting isn't the truth. One conclusion feeds
€ > the other, which is circular logic. I assume you're playing this game
€ > (Popeye would call it "a Jedi mind trick") because you can't refute my
€ > initial statement, and because you have no way to disprove my
€ > supposition that Bush gathered more negative reporting because there's
€ > much more negative to report about him.
€ >
€ > Care to try again :-)­
€ Then again, you could take off your glasses and see the fact that there
€ IS a bit of media bias. For references, start with "rathergate"....
€
€ There may be some truth to what you state, but to deny that there is
€ bias is beneath your reputation.

Well, as I said when I first jumped into this thread, "I haven't taken
the bait for a while." Obviously I'm arguing this from an impossible
position (because there *is* bias in the news media. It's just not as
skewed to the left as some would like us to believe), and I never
expected to win. What I really wanted to do is point out the flaws of
simply counting positive and negative stories and using that as a basis
for determining bias. I think I accomplished that goal, and I got to
have a little fun along the way :-)­
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Popeye 16 March 2005 07:37:42 permanent link ]
 
Alan Street wrote:

(because there *is* bias in the news media. It's just not as> skewed to the left as some would like us to believe)

And it never will be, whatever the evidence,,, :-)­

That's why I love you, man.

Dependable. <weg>

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Alan Street 16 March 2005 08:17:50 permanent link ]
 In article <1110944262.059121.­312020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,
Popeye <Buzcutt454@aol.com­> wrote:

€ Alan Street wrote:
€
€
€ >(because there *is* bias in the news media. It's just not as
€ > skewed to the left as some would like us to believe)
€
€ And it never will be, whatever the evidence,,, :-)­
€
€ That's why I love you, man.
€
€ Dependable. <weg>
€

I love you too, mi amigo.

I know I can always count on you.

:-)­
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Crownfield 16 March 2005 08:18:51 permanent link ]
 Popeye wrote:>
Alan Street wrote:>
€ Keep in mind, Bush was the only one actually -doing- any> governing at> > € the time to derive negative comment.> > €> >
Ah, yes. The old "better to do something, even if it's wrong, than to> > be seen as indecisive."> >
€ Or for the last three decades, come to think of it.> > €> >
Gee, that would exclude that icon of Republican leadership, Ronnie.>
And here I thought we were reffering to Kerry.>
€ Oh well, just makes the win more and more spectacular as it> goes.> >
The "win"?> >
You have a funny sense of good and bad.>
Q: Where's W?> A: The Whitehouse>
Q: Where's Kerry?> A: Who?

you are going to need a new award !
the Laugh of the day award is not enough for you,

and thus you win "The 6-pack Laughs of the Day Award" !!

congratulations!
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Joe English 16 March 2005 17:01:01 permanent link ]
 Alan Street wrote:> In article <1110944262.059121.­312020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,> Popeye <Buzcutt454@aol.com­> wrote:>
Alan Street wrote:>
(because there *is* bias in the news media. It's just not as> > skewed to the left as some would like us to believe)>
And it never will be, whatever the evidence,,, :-)­>
That's why I love you, man.>
Dependable. <weg>>
I love you too, mi amigo.>
I know I can always count on you.>
:-)­

Get a room! :-)­
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Nisarel 16 March 2005 17:49:28 permanent link ]
 Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:
If it is biased, it is not the truth.> truth is not biased.> logically obvious.

Only to an idiot like you who is too stupid to see reality.

Godel is beyond you.

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Chris Guynn 16 March 2005 18:11:35 permanent link ]
 
"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_sa­n.rr.com> wrote in message
news:15032005201750­9555%agstreet@nonono­_san.rr.com...> In article <1110944262.059121.­312020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,> Popeye <Buzcutt454@aol.com­> wrote:>
? Alan Street wrote:> ?> ?> ? >(because there *is* bias in the news media. It's just not as> ? > skewed to the left as some would like us to believe)> ?> ? And it never will be, whatever the evidence,,, :-)­> ?> ? That's why I love you, man.> ?> ? Dependable. <weg>> ?>
I love you too, mi amigo.>
I know I can always count on you.>
:-)­

Pardon me... I threw up in my mouth a little...


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Crownfield 16 March 2005 21:53:25 permanent link ]
 Nisarel wrote:>
Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:>
If it is biased, it is not the truth.> > truth is not biased.> > logically obvious.>
Only to an idiot like you who is too stupid to see reality.>

thought is beyond you.

keep yapping, keep following me around.
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Nisarel 16 March 2005 22:07:01 permanent link ]
 Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:
Nisarel wrote:>>
Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:>>
If it is biased, it is not the truth.>> > truth is not biased.>> > logically obvious.>>
Only to an idiot like you who is too stupid to see reality.>
thought is beyond me.


bad little mutt.

<whap>
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Crownfield 17 March 2005 02:21:19 permanent link ]
 Nisarel wrote:>
Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:>
Nisarel wrote:> >>
Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:> >>
If it is biased, it is not the truth.> >> > truth is not biased.> >> > logically obvious.> >>
Only to an idiot like you who is too stupid to see reality.> >
thought is beyond me.>

thought is beyond you.

keep yapping, keep following me around.

heel, carlito, heel.
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Nisarel 17 March 2005 18:19:10 permanent link ]
 Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:

thought is beyond me.

bad little mutt.

<whap>


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Crownfield 18 March 2005 00:32:50 permanent link ]
 Nisarel wrote:>
Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:>
< ... >


thought is beyond you.

keep yapping, keep following me around.

heel, carlito, heel.
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Popeye 18 March 2005 00:45:26 permanent link ]
 
Crownfield wrote:> Nisarel wrote:> >
Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:> >
< ... >>
thought is beyond you.>
keep yapping, keep following me around.>
heel, carlito, heel.

Carl is quite the obedient little leg-humper, isn't he?

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Cam 18 March 2005 01:17:16 permanent link ]
 
Chris Guynn wrote:> "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904
The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism
school> within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).>
Let's see...>
Kerry negative articles... 12%> Bush negative articles... 36%>
Anyone have comparable stats for Clinton's second election? I'd think
that there is always some kind of bias against the incumbent.

Cam

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Chris Guynn 18 March 2005 01:22:22 permanent link ]
 
"Cam" <cam.barr@beer.com>­ wrote in message
news:1111094236.236­510.233680@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..>
Chris Guynn wrote:> > "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message> > news:MqCZd.11$_x.12­2@news.uswest.net...­> > > http://abcnews.go.c­om/Politics/wireStor­y?id=578904>
The second best part is that the study was done by a journalism> school> > within a fairly (very?) liberal college (Columbia).> >
Let's see...> >
Kerry negative articles... 12%> > Bush negative articles... 36%> >
Anyone have comparable stats for Clinton's second election? I'd think> that there is always some kind of bias against the incumbent.>

As far as I could tell, the overly negative press for Clinton didn't start
until 1998 and the Monica debacle.


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Crownfield 18 March 2005 05:20:33 permanent link ]
 Popeye wrote:>
Crownfield wrote:> > Nisarel wrote:> > >
Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:> > >
< ... >> >
thought is beyond you.> >
keep yapping, keep following me around.> >
heel, carlito, heel.>
Carl is quite the obedient little leg-humper, isn't he?

that he is.

what amazes me is the childish snipping,
the mindless sophmoric lines that he throws out,
the utter failure to comprehend.

if we did not feed him lines,
he would have nothing to snip and post.

really mindless twits like carlito pisarel
are few and far between.
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Nisarel 18 March 2005 05:47:04 permanent link ]
 Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:
thought is beyond me.

We know, Bob.

<whap>

Bad dog. Quit soiling yourself.
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Nisarel 18 March 2005 05:51:42 permanent link ]
 Crownfield <Crownfield@cox.net­> yapped:
Popeye sputtered:>>
Crownfield wrote:>>
thought is beyond me.
Carl is quite good at smacking you around, isn't he?>
that he is.

Bad mutt.

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Scott 20 March 2005 14:36:33 permanent link ]
 
"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_sa­n.rr.com> wrote in message
news:15032005094753­0829%agstreet@nonono­_san.rr.com...
Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.>
Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much> more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting> the truth.

a.. New York Times editorial, January 1, 1995:
In the last session of Congress, the Republican minority invoked an
endless string of filibusters to frustrate the will of the majority. This
relentless abuse of a time-honored Senate tradition so disgusted Senator Tom
Harkin, a Democrat from Iowa, that he is now willing to forgo easy
retribution and drastically limit the filibuster. Hooray for him. . . . Once
a rarely used tactic reserved for issues on which senators held passionate
views, the filibuster has become the tool of the sore loser, . . . an
archaic rule that frustrates democracy and serves no useful purpose.
b.. New York Times editorial, March 6, 2005:
The Republicans are claiming that 51 votes should be enough to win
confirmation of the White House's judicial nominees. This flies in the face
of Senate history. . . . To block the nominees, the Democrats' weapon of
choice has been the filibuster, a time-honored Senate procedure that
prevents a bare majority of senators from running roughshod. . . . The Bush
administration likes to call itself "conservative," but there is nothing
conservative about endangering one of the great institutions of American
democracy, the United States Senate, for the sake of an ideological crusade.


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Dennis 20 March 2005 22:53:57 permanent link ]
 "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gm­ail.com> wrote in message
news:9lc%d.1$SP2.13­2@news.uswest.net...­>
"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_sa­n.rr.com> wrote in message> news:15032005094753­0829%agstreet@nonono­_san.rr.com...>
Oh, what the heck. I haven't taken the bait for a while.> >
Did you ever consider to possibility that Bush actually generated much> > more negative news than Kerry? It's not bias when you're just reporting> > the truth.>
a.. New York Times editorial, January 1, 1995:> In the last session of Congress, the Republican minority invoked an> endless string of filibusters to frustrate the will of the majority. This> relentless abuse of a time-honored Senate tradition so disgusted Senator
Harkin, a Democrat from Iowa, that he is now willing to forgo easy> retribution and drastically limit the filibuster. Hooray for him. . . .
Once> a rarely used tactic reserved for issues on which senators held passionate> views, the filibuster has become the tool of the sore loser, . . . an> archaic rule that frustrates democracy and serves no useful purpose.> b.. New York Times editorial, March 6, 2005:> The Republicans are claiming that 51 votes should be enough to win> confirmation of the White House's judicial nominees. This flies in the
face> of Senate history. . . . To block the nominees, the Democrats' weapon of> choice has been the filibuster, a time-honored Senate procedure that> prevents a bare majority of senators from running roughshod. . . . The
Bush> administration likes to call itself "conservative," but there is nothing> conservative about endangering one of the great institutions of American> democracy, the United States Senate, for the sake of an ideological
crusade.>

Scott Scott Scott. You dropped the context.
In 1995, the Republicans were in the minority. Their use of the filibuster
was blocking "much needed legislation, therefore the filibustr served "no
useful purpose".
In 2005, the Republicans are in the majority, so the filibuster now "serves
a useful purpose."

;-)­

Dennis


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