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Brakes and Handle Bar for Coker

Tuck 17 April 2005 16:47:35
 
Where or how do I get a brake for the Coker. I have the basic one. Do
I need the deluxe or can I install items as needed? Also, the handle
bars I see in photos - where do you bet these items?

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Rogeratunicycledotcom 17 April 2005 18:11:02 [ permanent link ]
 
For a Coker I would avoid Magura brakes, the best brakes are the old
style (and often cheap) BMX centre fitted side pull brakes.
They are easy to fit - drill a hole through the crown.
They deal with flex in the rim (even with wide hubs and aero rim expect
more than on a normal wheel).
They are cheap
The braking is consitant.
Can be activeated by a gear lever so allowing you to set them and leave
them on as you go down a hill.

My bit on brakes. :-)­

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Rogeratunicycledotcom 18 April 2005 00:22:15 [ permanent link ]
 
daino149 wrote:> *This is the first time I've heard anyone suggest anything but Maggies> for any reason but price. How many other riders feel the same way? I> don't have any experience with brakes and I have very limited> experience with Cokers. But, I'm planning on getting a Coker soon and> would like to get some brakes for it. *


Better question.

Ask for people who have actually tried Maguras on a Coker and made them
work successfully.

Then try asking those who have got the others working in an affective
and appropriate manor for a Coker.

Roger


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Tomblackwood 18 April 2005 00:53:43 [ permanent link ]
 
rogeratunicycledotc­om wrote:> *Ask for people who have actually tried Maguras on a Coker and made> them work successfully. Then try asking those who have got the others> working in an affective and appropriate manor (sic) for a Coker.*

I have a magura setup on my 36-er (wide hub, U-Turn wheel), and it works
ok. I'd say it is definitely better for short steep hills than it is
for long steep hills. Because it isn't a drag-brake type of setup, it
requires consistant pressure on the handle when braking. The biggest
problem I've had is bumping the forearm of my braking hand with my knee
while pedaling, which can cause me to loosen my pressure on the handle,
or worse increase it which leads to forward UPD. The longer the
descent, the more opportunity thee is for that to happen.

It definitely requires a more precise "touch" than the same magura setup
on a 24" muni, but it's workable. I've never ridden a coker setup with
a standard cable brake or drag-brake setup, so I'm afraid I can't do a
direct comparison. All I can do is confirm that the magura setup can
work just fine on a 36-er with a stiff wheel build if you're willing to
invest some time on getting the "touch" right.


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Keg 18 April 2005 00:57:39 [ permanent link ]
 
rogeratunicycledotc­om wrote:> *>
Then try asking those who have got the others working in an affective> and appropriate manor for a Coker.>
Roger *


I have no problems with a side pull brake on a Coker, it even works - to
an adequate extent - on the standard rim. Since moving to the Airfoil
rim I get the required smooth drag effect.


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Gbarnes 18 April 2005 08:13:04 [ permanent link ]
 
rogeratunicycledotc­om wrote:> *Better question.>
Ask for people who have actually tried Maguras on a Coker and made> them work successfully. >
Then try asking those who have got the others working in an affective> and appropriate manor for a Coker.>
Roger>
"For a Coker I would avoid Magura brakes, the best brakes are the old> style (and often cheap) BMX centre fitted side pull brakes. "> *


Again with the gospel...

Maguras work fine on my 36". They CAN be used as a drag brake on long
downhills, just dial in the wear pad knob until the pads hit all the
time. Not useful for short hills, but definitely nice on a big descent
when you actually need a drag brake.


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John_childs 18 April 2005 08:51:05 [ permanent link ]
 
gbarnes wrote:> *Again with the gospel...>
Maguras work fine on my 36". They CAN be used as a drag brake on long> downhills, just dial in the wear pad knob until the pads hit all the> time. Not useful for short hills, but definitely nice on a big> descent when you actually need a drag brake. *

I have my Magura brake pads set as far as I can from the rim. The
adjustment knob doesn't have enough adjustability to get them to work as
a drag brake just by dialing the knob all the way out. If I set the
pads so they were closer to the rim I could do that, but I don't like
them close to the rim cause then I get occasional brake pad rub.


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U-Turn 18 April 2005 14:03:56 [ permanent link ]
 
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Deadlydes 18 April 2005 16:05:59 [ permanent link ]
 
Roger said:

For a Coker I would avoid Magura brakes, the best brakes are the old
style (and often cheap) BMX centre fitted side pull brakes.
They are easy to fit - drill a hole through the crown.
They deal with flex in the rim (even with wide hubs and aero rim expect
more than on a normal wheel).
They are cheap
The braking is consitant.
Can be activeated by a gear lever so allowing you to set them and leave
them on as you go down a hill.

My bit on brakes. :-)­

Roger


so why have you got a magura roger? :-s

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Rogeratunicycledotcom 18 April 2005 16:40:50 [ permanent link ]
 
Yes I have magura's on my Coker. it is a CrMO frame by Joe Rowing. It
has a wide Coker hub and an aero rim. The brake is fitted on the handle
bars so it easy to operate. So you would think it an ideal set-up.
I have tried it and the touching of the rim while riding I find very
disconcerting, hence my comments from my experience. It seams to work
ok on-road unless you really push it, but as soon as you start using it
off-road it just does not work for me.

Roger


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Mikepenton 18 April 2005 17:00:18 [ permanent link ]
 
So what would the recommendations be for a 29er?
(off and on-road)


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Rogeratunicycledotcom 18 April 2005 17:12:51 [ permanent link ]
 
KH 29 with Magura's it is really impressive.

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U-Turn 18 April 2005 17:17:00 [ permanent link ]
 
mikepenton wrote:> *So what would the recommendations be for a 29er?> (off and on-road) *
Another alternative:
http://gallery.unic­yclist.com/Endurance­_Racing_29er


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Deadlydes 18 April 2005 18:27:49 [ permanent link ]
 
roger.

i remember you saying something like that b4.
just out of curiousity then why dont you take it off and replace with
the type of brake you recomended?

BTW. i use the old type of bmx brake and it works fine, got it hooked up
to a gear lever so i can leave drag on for long decents.

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