Robert M. Franz 13 March 2005 19:58:48 [ permanent link ]
recreationmajor2004@yahoo.com wrote:> i have 5 pools. i'm taking the top 2 teams from each pool to a> single-elimination playoff.>
who plays who?
You need 8 teams for single-elim (or 16, but if you wanted that, you'd take the best 3 from each pool and one more . Hence you need to eliminate 2 teams. Arguably you wouldn't want to eliminate any of the five #1s, so one of the five #2s gets a bye =bye2), and the other play one game against another #2. Loser quits, winner =W1_ELIM and W2_Elim) goes on to playoff.
A1-W1_ELIM B1-W2_ELIM C1-bye2 D1-E1
A thorough TD would make sure that teams from the same original pools don't play each other again before the finals, which is pretty straight forward once the remaining #2s are decided.
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Basically you are doing a 10 team bracket. In reality it is a 16 team bracket, because all brackets are powers of 2. With a 10 team bracket you are just giving byes to 6 teams in the first round. The other four teams play in the first round.
Basically you are doing a 10 team bracket. In reality it is a 16
team bracket,> because all brackets are powers of 2. With a 10 team bracket you are just> giving byes to 6 teams in the first round. The other four teams play in the> first round.>
John
That is correct, up to a point, I believe.
Since it is important under USAV rules that teams from the same pool do not play each other until the finals you must take the 4 worst teams, seed them 1v4, 2v3 play those matches and then plug the appropriate teams into the 8 team bracket after you have seeded 1-6, then placing the teams so that they do not play the team from their pool until the final match, even if that means moving the 5th and 6th seeds to other matches to accomodate. If Teams from the same pool must be on opposite sides of the bracket until the finals it can make for some very funky rearangement of the seeds.
John Villalovos 17 March 2005 07:59:20 [ permanent link ]
Mike wrote:> That is correct, up to a point, I believe.>
Since it is important under USAV rules that teams from the same pool do> not play each other until the finals you must take the 4 worst teams,> seed them 1v4, 2v3 play those matches and then plug the appropriate> teams into the 8 team bracket after you have seeded 1-6, then placing> the teams so that they do not play the team from their pool until the> final match, even if that means moving the 5th and 6th seeds to other> matches to accomodate. If Teams from the same pool must be on opposite> sides of the bracket until the finals it can make for some very funky> rearangement of the seeds.
I don't think it is a requirement to do that. It may be a recommendation but I didn't really notice it. It for sure isn't part of the "rules", since the rules only cover the aspects of a single match and do not talk about tournaments.
In the guidelines for running tournaments they may talk about it.
But I have been to many tournaments where they have not followed this system, which is unfortunate because it makes sense.
