Does any one have or know any thing about the PHP code: -------------------- 20" Bedford with KH hub/cranks -------------------- trials cycle that is on bedford.ca? Is it a good uni compared with the others on the market (Nimbus, Onza, KH)? I'm going to e-mail Darren Bedford but do any of you know the specs on it(weight, component, ect.)? I'm looking for a trials cycle but I don't think I will be able to get a KH.
P.S. What is a Koxx and are they availible in the us?
I, and many others, have that exact uni. I like mine a lot and i've heard no complaints from others who have it. If you are an expert, then you may want to get the authentic KH, but for the rest of us, the Bedford-KH is an excellent buy. You may want to swap the KH seat for a Miyata, though. Darren will do that for you.
Koxx is a French brand that makes really good unis. They also have a gel filled seat that i've been wanting to get my hands on for a while. From what i know, their stuff isn't available over here, though.
No, i don't have a pic, but it looks the exact same as every other uni. 19" frame? What does that mean?
Does it fit a 20" wheel? Yes, of course. Can i extend/contract the seat post so that the saddle is 19 or 20" from the hub? Um, i guess, i've never actually tried, but that sounds about reasonable.
If you really want to see one, search the forum for Darren's pictures. He has 3 URLs floating around where he stores images of his stuff.
Oh, and i'm not familiar with the Onza uni, so i can't compare.
UNIquelyCanadian 16 March 2005 02:33:30 [ permanent link ]
I just did a quick measurement on the difference between 19" and 20" tires. My 20" freestyle style tire has a true 20" exterior diameter, while my Maxxis 19" has an exterior diameter of nearly 21". I'm not sure how that helps you but I just found it interesting.
Let us know what you decide...
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UNIquelyCanadian 16 March 2005 04:25:52 [ permanent link ]
frankz wrote:> *Sorry I meant Rim not frame. but do you know what frame it has? *
As far as I know it has Bedford's own frame.
It would have a 19" rim. But I'm not sure which brand.
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How does it compare with the onza and the KH? Isn't the yuni frame really cheap? How does the DX rim compare to the KH rim? Yeah I know I'm full of questions.
I just got an e-mail for Darren Bedford telling me the stats of the Bedford trials:> It uses a KH seat> Bedford 3" frame> 3 Allen Key seat post clamp> KH hub and crank set ('04 or '05)> Alex ALDX32 rim> Luna trials tire> Wellgo platform pedals> DT Champion spokes>
I can alter any parts you want changed if any.>
So if its down to the Onza or the Bedford which one should I go for? Remember if I go with the Bedford I can swap out parts for better ones. Is there any thing on the bedford that you people would recomend upgrading? Like an Alex trials rim instead of the Alex ALDX32? Or a maxxis or Monty Tire?
P.S. Here is the stats for the Onza:
Hub/Axle: 3/4-inch splined, heat-treated steel
Crank Arms: 140-mm CrMo splined for strength, hollow for lightweight
Rim: Alex DX32 19-inch double-walled, 36-hole, black finish
Spokes: 14g stainless steel
Tire: Onza 20- x 2.5-inch
Frame: CrMo matt black finish
Pedals: Platform-style BMX with steel pins
Seat Post Clamp: Large double-bolted, black finish
Saddle: Onza brand contoured saddle with front lift handle and rear bumper guard
From what i know, the Alex ALDX32 rim is a pretty standard trials rim. Don't both swapping it. That's what i'm riding anyway. Oh, in case you didn't know, the pedals are alloy (metal), not resin (plastic).
I'd go with Darren's, with the KH05 cranks and hub, if you have the cash (they are more, right?). My old KH cranks are real ankle-bone biters, because the axle sticks out past the cranks. So, the newer the better, IMO. I guess Darren mods his older KH cranks to minimize that knob now, but i curse them anyway. Maybe i'm wrong, though.
If anyone is interested I have a Bedford Trials uni that I am looking to part with, not for any reason other than I dont ride it as I have another trials uni with profile cranks.
The specs are 2003 (not sure on the exact modle year) KH Cranks and Hub Alex dx32 rim w/ eylits Yuni frame OEM Kris Holm Seat circa 03 bedford post crappy standard pedals
Everything is in like new condition and had hardly been riden at all. Asking price is $200us (shipping included to states /pickup avalible)
Cheers
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TheObieOne3226 19 March 2005 02:24:23 [ permanent link ]
Checkernuts wrote:> *If anyone is interested I have a Bedford Trials uni that I am looking> to part with, not for any reason other than I dont ride it as I have> another trials uni with profile cranks. >
The specs are > 2003 (not sure on the exact modle year) KH Cranks and Hub > Alex dx32 rim w/ eylits> Yuni frame> OEM Kris Holm Seat circa 03> bedford post> crappy standard pedals>
Everything is in like new condition and had hardly been riden at all. > Asking price is $200us (shipping included to states /pickup> avalible)>
Cheers *
I'll vouch for this in a heartbeat. Saw it a month ago at motorama. Could easily pass it off as new. Not a scratch(he has a profile trials). Nice deal too.
that uni is now sold. Thanks to all who showed interest.
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Rogeratunicycledotcom 20 March 2005 18:07:11 [ permanent link ]
KcTheAcy wrote:> *Here is my opinion in order of strength.> 1.Profile> 2.KH 05> 3.Onza> 4.KH 04*
For the record, the KH and Onza have a shared Hub and crank set. If you look at them you will find that they are marked with both logo's on them. They are identical!
The Frames on the Onza will be stronger than the KH 05 because they are made from thin wall CrMO. It is probably the strongest of the mass produced frames on the market, but the KH is a lot lighter.
Rogeratunicycledotcom 20 March 2005 18:14:55 [ permanent link ]
KcTheAcy wrote:> *Here is my opinion in order of strength.> 1.Profile> 2.KH 05> 3.Onza> 4.KH 04*
For the record, the KH and Onza have a shared Hub and crank set. If you look at them you will find that they are marked with both logo's on them. They are identical!
The Frames on the Onza will be stronger than the KH 05 because they are made from thin wall CrMO. It is probably the strongest of the mass produced frames on the market, but the KH is a lot lighter.
One last question. Does anyone know how much the Bedford uni/just the frame weighs? I know mine may end up being alittle different like if you have an old model of something but I just want an estimate. Darren doesn't have weights for his stuff. I'm guessing its lighter than the Onza.
KcTheAcy wrote:> *I listed the KH first because it has a better axle/hub interface and> they way it bolts on makes it less likely to creak, right? Isn’t it> lighter also?> *
It's the same cranks, same hub, same axle/hub interface on both onza and new KH. So the KH can't be any stronger, better or less creaky.