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GYXU > General > Re: Rise....I don't think it does.... 16 April 2005 02:59:10

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Re: Rise....I don't think it does....

Ray 29 March 2005 00:48:54
 
A riseball "doesn't rise"--it drops less than anticipated.
There is about a 3 to 6 inch difference between the
"anticipated" position of the ball as opposed to the
"real" position of the ball.

When the ball is thrown, gravity immediately starts pulling
the ball down. The backspin on the ball slightly counteracts the
pull of gravity, causing the ball to drop slightly less over the
40-43 feet between the mound and the plate than if it was thrown
with "normal" spin.

What happens to a batter is pretty simple--after years (a decade?)
of hitting "straight" fast balls, the batter is "tuned" to
hit a pitch that drops a particular distance over the 40 feet
or so. So, when the pitcher throws a rise, the ball looks
to the batter like it "jumps".

The best example of a rise is the 1968 performance of
Bob Gibson in the World Series when he struck out 17.
Gibson threw a backspin fastball. The batters
consistently swung under the ball. You can watch it
on ESPN classic. It is amazing.

Golf balls use backspin to increase distance.

The problem with a softball rise is that the spin can
be easily identified. A batter can therefore be
trained to identify the spin and "stay on top" of
the rise. Thus, a pitcher who throws only a good
rise can be dominating in high school but a flop in
college.


Born2win@hotmail.co­m wrote:> Hi Everybody,
Why does a peel drop break so well. Spin has a lot to do with it and> so does gravity. But, how about the rise?

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Wes 16 April 2005 02:59:10 permanent link ]
 Airplanes don't actually fly.

In the beginning there were carts, stage coaches and chariots, all of which
had to be pulled by an animal with their feet on the ground. Trains and
cars came along and no longer did they have to be pulled.

On the trains of the day, all Porters were men. When planes came along,
they were outfitted with beautiful young girls which were lighter than the
Porters of the day. These women gave the impression that the plains were
actually flying but they were only lighter and a little higher.

Next lesson will be on helicopters.

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"Ray" <NOSPAM@otaku.frees­hell.org> wrote in message
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A riseball "doesn't rise"--it drops less than anticipated.> There is about a 3 to 6 inch difference between the> "anticipated" position of the ball as opposed to the> "real" position of the ball.>
When the ball is thrown, gravity immediately starts pulling> the ball down. The backspin on the ball slightly counteracts the> pull of gravity, causing the ball to drop slightly less over the> 40-43 feet between the mound and the plate than if it was thrown> with "normal" spin.>
What happens to a batter is pretty simple--after years (a decade?)> of hitting "straight" fast balls, the batter is "tuned" to> hit a pitch that drops a particular distance over the 40 feet> or so. So, when the pitcher throws a rise, the ball looks> to the batter like it "jumps".>
The best example of a rise is the 1968 performance of> Bob Gibson in the World Series when he struck out 17.> Gibson threw a backspin fastball. The batters> consistently swung under the ball. You can watch it> on ESPN classic. It is amazing.>
Golf balls use backspin to increase distance.>
The problem with a softball rise is that the spin can> be easily identified. A batter can therefore be> trained to identify the spin and "stay on top" of> the rise. Thus, a pitcher who throws only a good> rise can be dominating in high school but a flop in> college.>
Born2win@hotmail.co­m wrote:>> Hi Everybody,>
Why does a peel drop break so well. Spin has a lot to do with it and>> so does gravity. But, how about the rise?>


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