I was sitting on the gas pipeline at the top of the mountain last night with some other riders, having a beverage and a discussion about the riding. The temp was -5 degrees with 30-45 mph sustained winds blowing snow into whiteout conditions. The other guys were "hiding" between their sleds to stay out of the snow and wind, and I just chuckled at their efforts. They couldn't believe I wasn't cold then or at the end of the night. When we got back to the trucks, their was a brief discussion and they all decided I was the only one who wasn't complaining about being cold. They asked my "secret" and I told them I was merely dressed as usual. When I told them what I was wearing, they all shook their heads and looked at me like I was from outer space and said "geesh....nobody dresses like that to ride" and laughed. When I pulled the little chemical heat pack off the back of my neck and threw it in the back of the truck, they stopped laughing and grumbled.
This made me wonder if I do get carried away when I go riding, but I have always prepared for the worst, having spent a night or two out in the mountain in sub-zero temps over the years. I generally wear two pairs of long underwear under heavy jeans, two long underwear shirts with a sweater over top, a thin windbreaker type waterproof jacket over all this, with a set of the best Yammie bibs and coat I could buy over the works. I wear a head sock that comes down over my shoulders with another regular head sock over top it, and of course a snowmobile helmet. If it's REALLY cold I may or may not stick a chemical heat pack on the back of my neck (if you've never tried this you wouldn't belive the difference it makes) for good measure. For footwear I wear pack boots one size too large (on purpose) with two pairs or regular cotton socks with one set of wool over top.
I can never remember being uncomfortably cold after a whole days worth of riding, even in sub zero weather, and I have never quit because I was cold. I have seen so many guys have to quit riding when they weren't ready over the years because they weren't properly dressed and were cold. I was wondering what others of you wear while you are riding? Clip
Ryan@Ryanquick.Com 4 March 2005 00:15:48 [ permanent link ]
I wear some wool long underwear and then sweatpants under my bibs. On top I have a thermal undershirt thing my wife got me from LL Bean with a fleece sweatshirt over that and then an old John Deere coat. I have a wind blocking balaclava and then a thin cotton cap over that. I usually wear SmartWool socks and I have leather gloves. The only thing that gets cold on me is occasionally me knees depending on how cold it is, and sometimes my cheeks since my helmet is just an old motorcycle helmet that doesn't really block out any cold from underneath. 20+ and I'm perfectly comfortable. 5-15 and it's tolerable. Below 5 can be a little nippy.
If it's going to be above zero I ride in a pair of jeans, t shirt and polypropylene overshirt, Castle X jacket and Cabelas gore-tex bibs, thinnest headsock I could find and helmet.. If it's going under zero I add poly under my jeans and maybe another shirt..never been cold. Rode last year (175 miles) on a day when it never broke -18 and was windy. Stayed comfortable all day...
"clip" <eclip01@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:TvJVd.411$603.112@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...> I was sitting on the gas pipeline at the top of the mountain last night with> some other riders, having a beverage and a discussion about the riding.
temp was -5 degrees with 30-45 mph sustained winds blowing snow into> whiteout conditions. The other guys were "hiding" between their sleds to> stay out of the snow and wind, and I just chuckled at their efforts. They> couldn't believe I wasn't cold then or at the end of the night. When we
back to the trucks, their was a brief discussion and they all decided I
the only one who wasn't complaining about being cold. They asked my
"secret"> and I told them I was merely dressed as usual. When I told them what I was> wearing, they all shook their heads and looked at me like I was from outer> space and said "geesh....nobody dresses like that to ride" and laughed. When> I pulled the little chemical heat pack off the back of my neck and threw
in the back of the truck, they stopped laughing and grumbled.>
This made me wonder if I do get carried away when I go riding, but I have> always prepared for the worst, having spent a night or two out in the> mountain in sub-zero temps over the years. I generally wear two pairs of> long underwear under heavy jeans, two long underwear shirts with a sweater> over top, a thin windbreaker type waterproof jacket over all this, with a> set of the best Yammie bibs and coat I could buy over the works. I wear a> head sock that comes down over my shoulders with another regular head sock> over top it, and of course a snowmobile helmet. If it's REALLY cold I
or may not stick a chemical heat pack on the back of my neck (if you've> never tried this you wouldn't belive the difference it makes) for good> measure. For footwear I wear pack boots one size too large (on purpose)
with> two pairs or regular cotton socks with one set of wool over top.>
I can never remember being uncomfortably cold after a whole days worth of> riding, even in sub zero weather, and I have never quit because I was
cold.> I have seen so many guys have to quit riding when they weren't ready over> the years because they weren't properly dressed and were cold. I was> wondering what others of you wear while you are riding?> Clip>
WOW I'm ashamed to say but I were a T-shirt and light wind or sweat pants and throw my Reima Gear on a head out with a pair of Sorrel boots and old worn out leather Cat gloves...... Am I cold? no..... not super hot either..... As a matter of fact I JUST last week started riding with the liner of my Reima bibs removed........ As long as I'm dry I'm warm and my Reima gear keeps me both warm and dry. Not cheap stuff mind you..... you get what you pay for. Below zero weather I MIGHT wear a turtle neck shirt but that's not very often.....
Jeff B In Maine
============================================================= "clip" <eclip01@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:TvJVd.411$603.112@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...>I was sitting on the gas pipeline at the top of the mountain last night >with> some other riders, having a beverage and a discussion about the riding. > The> temp was -5 degrees with 30-45 mph sustained winds blowing snow into> whiteout conditions. The other guys were "hiding" between their sleds to> stay out of the snow and wind, and I just chuckled at their efforts. They> couldn't believe I wasn't cold then or at the end of the night. When we > got> back to the trucks, their was a brief discussion and they all decided I > was> the only one who wasn't complaining about being cold. They asked my > "secret"> and I told them I was merely dressed as usual. When I told them what I was> wearing, they all shook their heads and looked at me like I was from outer> space and said "geesh....nobody dresses like that to ride" and laughed. > When> I pulled the little chemical heat pack off the back of my neck and threw > it> in the back of the truck, they stopped laughing and grumbled.>
This made me wonder if I do get carried away when I go riding, but I have> always prepared for the worst, having spent a night or two out in the> mountain in sub-zero temps over the years. I generally wear two pairs of> long underwear under heavy jeans, two long underwear shirts with a sweater> over top, a thin windbreaker type waterproof jacket over all this, with a> set of the best Yammie bibs and coat I could buy over the works. I wear a> head sock that comes down over my shoulders with another regular head sock> over top it, and of course a snowmobile helmet. If it's REALLY cold I > may> or may not stick a chemical heat pack on the back of my neck (if you've> never tried this you wouldn't belive the difference it makes) for good> measure. For footwear I wear pack boots one size too large (on purpose) > with> two pairs or regular cotton socks with one set of wool over top.>
I can never remember being uncomfortably cold after a whole days worth of> riding, even in sub zero weather, and I have never quit because I was > cold.> I have seen so many guys have to quit riding when they weren't ready over> the years because they weren't properly dressed and were cold. I was> wondering what others of you wear while you are riding?> Clip>
Pieter Litchfield 4 March 2005 03:56:38 [ permanent link ]
Amen to the Cabela's Goretex bibs. My brother-in-law bought me a pair for Christmas (about $180 I believe). Heavy Cordura nylon exterior, big pockets, good Goretex. Even comes in short sizes for dwarfs like me. I groom trails 4 hours a day every day no matter what the conditions. I wear light polyprop. long johns, jeans, a fleece pullover with a zip up neck, my bibs, a fleece lined parka, and slightly oversize packs. My helmet keeps the head warm. I'm still working on the gloves, but usually its 200 gram Thinsulate gloves under mitten shells. The throttle thumb is still a problem, even with a thumb warmer circuit.
I almost hate it if the day begins to warm - it make grooming harder and I have to unlayer some.
"Jamie Arnold (W)" <av8r@av8r.org> wrote in message news:38pb2iF5og4q2U1@individual.net...> If it's going to be above zero I ride in a pair of jeans, t shirt and> polypropylene overshirt, Castle X jacket and Cabelas gore-tex bibs, > thinnest> headsock I could find and helmet.. If it's going under zero I add poly> under my jeans and maybe another shirt..never been cold. Rode last year> (175 miles) on a day when it never broke -18 and was windy. Stayed> comfortable all day...>
"clip" <eclip01@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:TvJVd.411$603.112@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...>> I was sitting on the gas pipeline at the top of the mountain last night> with>> some other riders, having a beverage and a discussion about the riding.> The>> temp was -5 degrees with 30-45 mph sustained winds blowing snow into>> whiteout conditions. The other guys were "hiding" between their sleds to>> stay out of the snow and wind, and I just chuckled at their efforts. They>> couldn't believe I wasn't cold then or at the end of the night. When we> got>> back to the trucks, their was a brief discussion and they all decided I> was>> the only one who wasn't complaining about being cold. They asked my> "secret">> and I told them I was merely dressed as usual. When I told them what I >> was>> wearing, they all shook their heads and looked at me like I was from >> outer>> space and said "geesh....nobody dresses like that to ride" and laughed.> When>> I pulled the little chemical heat pack off the back of my neck and threw> it>> in the back of the truck, they stopped laughing and grumbled.>>
This made me wonder if I do get carried away when I go riding, but I have>> always prepared for the worst, having spent a night or two out in the>> mountain in sub-zero temps over the years. I generally wear two pairs of>> long underwear under heavy jeans, two long underwear shirts with a >> sweater>> over top, a thin windbreaker type waterproof jacket over all this, with a>> set of the best Yammie bibs and coat I could buy over the works. I wear a>> head sock that comes down over my shoulders with another regular head >> sock>> over top it, and of course a snowmobile helmet. If it's REALLY cold I> may>> or may not stick a chemical heat pack on the back of my neck (if you've>> never tried this you wouldn't belive the difference it makes) for good>> measure. For footwear I wear pack boots one size too large (on purpose)> with>> two pairs or regular cotton socks with one set of wool over top.>>
I can never remember being uncomfortably cold after a whole days worth of>> riding, even in sub zero weather, and I have never quit because I was> cold.>> I have seen so many guys have to quit riding when they weren't ready over>> the years because they weren't properly dressed and were cold. I was>> wondering what others of you wear while you are riding?>> Clip>>
I have never worn longjohns, just jeans under my Polaris snow bibs - really heavy ones. Up top, usually a polypropylene tshirt, turtleneck, and a warm fleece under my Choko trail jacket. I wear Reima gloves, the ones with the removable liners, and two pairs of wool socks inside my oversize Sorel boots. A thin balaclava tops it all off. I've never been cold, even at -40. I sometimes do wish I had a full face helmet instead of the MX style on those really cold days. I have had a bit of frostbite on my cheeks just under the goggles a couple of times, but it never bothered me.
On the really warm days, like we are getting right now, just my light windbreaker instead of the Choko jacket, over the same underlayers.
Proper layers is the only way to go, I never get cold and never sweat and get wet, water proof wind proof and breathable is the answer. It is tough to beat gore-tex, however it's not in everyone's budget.
"clip" <eclip01@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:TvJVd.411$603.112@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...> I was sitting on the gas pipeline at the top of the mountain last night with> some other riders, having a beverage and a discussion about the riding.
temp was -5 degrees with 30-45 mph sustained winds blowing snow into> whiteout conditions. The other guys were "hiding" between their sleds to> stay out of the snow and wind, and I just chuckled at their efforts. They> couldn't believe I wasn't cold then or at the end of the night. When we
back to the trucks, their was a brief discussion and they all decided I
the only one who wasn't complaining about being cold. They asked my
"secret"> and I told them I was merely dressed as usual. When I told them what I was> wearing, they all shook their heads and looked at me like I was from outer> space and said "geesh....nobody dresses like that to ride" and laughed. When> I pulled the little chemical heat pack off the back of my neck and threw
in the back of the truck, they stopped laughing and grumbled.>
This made me wonder if I do get carried away when I go riding, but I have> always prepared for the worst, having spent a night or two out in the> mountain in sub-zero temps over the years. I generally wear two pairs of> long underwear under heavy jeans, two long underwear shirts with a sweater> over top, a thin windbreaker type waterproof jacket over all this, with a> set of the best Yammie bibs and coat I could buy over the works. I wear a> head sock that comes down over my shoulders with another regular head sock> over top it, and of course a snowmobile helmet. If it's REALLY cold I
or may not stick a chemical heat pack on the back of my neck (if you've> never tried this you wouldn't belive the difference it makes) for good> measure. For footwear I wear pack boots one size too large (on purpose)
with> two pairs or regular cotton socks with one set of wool over top.>
I can never remember being uncomfortably cold after a whole days worth of> riding, even in sub zero weather, and I have never quit because I was
cold.> I have seen so many guys have to quit riding when they weren't ready over> the years because they weren't properly dressed and were cold. I was> wondering what others of you wear while you are riding?> Clip>
I might add long underwear if really cold - below 0* F. Less if riding >alone and more if with the family (slower and less activity).>
To be honest, I'm a thin wirey guy and my hands tend to get cold no >matter what. Handlbar warmers make up the difference when really cold.>
The only real problem is that my wife tried my Cabelas bibs and now she >wears them if we are together. Ouch!>
Brant>
clip wrote:>> I was sitting on the gas pipeline at the top of the mountain last night with>> some other riders, having a beverage and a discussion about the riding. The>> temp was -5 degrees with 30-45 mph sustained winds blowing snow into>> whiteout conditions. The other guys were "hiding" between their sleds to>> stay out of the snow and wind, and I just chuckled at their efforts. They>> couldn't believe I wasn't cold then or at the end of the night. When we got>> back to the trucks, their was a brief discussion and they all decided I was>> the only one who wasn't complaining about being cold. They asked my "secret">> and I told them I was merely dressed as usual. When I told them what I was>> wearing, they all shook their heads and looked at me like I was from outer>> space and said "geesh....nobody dresses like that to ride" and laughed. When>> I pulled the little chemical heat pack off the back of my neck and threw it>> in the back of the truck, they stopped laughing and grumbled.>>
This made me wonder if I do get carried away when I go riding, but I have>> always prepared for the worst, having spent a night or two out in the>> mountain in sub-zero temps over the years. I generally wear two pairs of>> long underwear under heavy jeans, two long underwear shirts with a sweater>> over top, a thin windbreaker type waterproof jacket over all this, with a>> set of the best Yammie bibs and coat I could buy over the works. I wear a>> head sock that comes down over my shoulders with another regular head sock>> over top it, and of course a snowmobile helmet. If it's REALLY cold I may>> or may not stick a chemical heat pack on the back of my neck (if you've>> never tried this you wouldn't belive the difference it makes) for good>> measure. For footwear I wear pack boots one size too large (on purpose) with>> two pairs or regular cotton socks with one set of wool over top.>>
I can never remember being uncomfortably cold after a whole days worth of>> riding, even in sub zero weather, and I have never quit because I was cold.>> I have seen so many guys have to quit riding when they weren't ready over>> the years because they weren't properly dressed and were cold. I was>> wondering what others of you wear while you are riding?>> Clip>>
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'95 XCR600>'98 Grand Touring 500>'03 MXZ 600 Trail RER>
Right off of trail S51 in CNY
Its not hard to tell who wears the pants in that family.....LOL
I might add long underwear if really cold - below 0* F. Less if riding >>alone and more if with the family (slower and less activity).>>
To be honest, I'm a thin wirey guy and my hands tend to get cold no >>matter what. Handlbar warmers make up the difference when really cold.>>
The only real problem is that my wife tried my Cabelas bibs and now she >>wears them if we are together. Ouch!>>
Brant>>
clip wrote:>>
I was sitting on the gas pipeline at the top of the mountain last night with>>>some other riders, having a beverage and a discussion about the riding. The>>>temp was -5 degrees with 30-45 mph sustained winds blowing snow into>>>whiteout conditions. The other guys were "hiding" between their sleds to>>>stay out of the snow and wind, and I just chuckled at their efforts. They>>>couldn't believe I wasn't cold then or at the end of the night. When we got>>>back to the trucks, their was a brief discussion and they all decided I was>>>the only one who wasn't complaining about being cold. They asked my "secret">>>and I told them I was merely dressed as usual. When I told them what I was>>>wearing, they all shook their heads and looked at me like I was from outer>>>space and said "geesh....nobody dresses like that to ride" and laughed. When>>>I pulled the little chemical heat pack off the back of my neck and threw it>>>in the back of the truck, they stopped laughing and grumbled.>>>
This made me wonder if I do get carried away when I go riding, but I have>>>always prepared for the worst, having spent a night or two out in the>>>mountain in sub-zero temps over the years. I generally wear two pairs of>>>long underwear under heavy jeans, two long underwear shirts with a sweater>>>over top, a thin windbreaker type waterproof jacket over all this, with a>>>set of the best Yammie bibs and coat I could buy over the works. I wear a>>>head sock that comes down over my shoulders with another regular head sock>>>over top it, and of course a snowmobile helmet. If it's REALLY cold I may>>>or may not stick a chemical heat pack on the back of my neck (if you've>>>never tried this you wouldn't belive the difference it makes) for good>>>measure. For footwear I wear pack boots one size too large (on purpose) with>>>two pairs or regular cotton socks with one set of wool over top.>>>
I can never remember being uncomfortably cold after a whole days worth of>>>riding, even in sub zero weather, and I have never quit because I was cold.>>>I have seen so many guys have to quit riding when they weren't ready over>>>the years because they weren't properly dressed and were cold. I was>>>wondering what others of you wear while you are riding?>>>Clip>>>
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'95 XCR600>>'98 Grand Touring 500>>'03 MXZ 600 Trail RER>>
Right off of trail S51 in CNY>
Its not hard to tell who wears the pants in that family.....LOL>
Cabela's bibs and jacket. Light poly long johns, polar tec type top and pants. That will keep me good to single digits. Always keep a fleece vest in trunk bag for the suprise temp. drop as my back gets cold when that happens. Polar tec socks for the feet. Toe warmers in the bag just incase those little piggy's get cold. -- John "anything you say can & will be misquoted & used against you" '01 FLHR ''Red" '04 MXZ 600ho '99 XC700 BRC mem