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GYXU > General > Thames watermen 27 April 2005 19:32:23

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Tristán White 22 April 2005 20:48:50
 Can anyone recommend any good books on Thames Watermen, their history,
and the history of the Doggets Coat and Badge race. Preferably with a
record of all the people who rowed in it? (or at least, who came first
second and third?)

Doing the family tree, discovered that dozens of my ancestors were
Watermen - would be interested to see whether they took part in the
race too!

TRISTÃN
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Mike Sullivan 22 April 2005 20:58:19 permanent link ]
 
"Tristán White" <Tristan_White@rock­etmail.com> wrote in message
news:2jai619e3bs5gu­j12va7hh0dtah8jn0hdn­@4ax.com...> Can anyone recommend any good books on Thames Watermen, their history,> and the history of the Doggets Coat and Badge race. Preferably with a> record of all the people who rowed in it? (or at least, who came first> second and third?)>
Doing the family tree, discovered that dozens of my ancestors were> Watermen - would be interested to see whether they took part in the> race too!

Please post the answer. I'd be interested in the title.
Mike


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Alistair Potts 22 April 2005 22:34:28 permanent link ]
 If you're in England you could try Gully Nickalls "The Race for the
Dogget's Coat and Badge" (London: Longmans Green, 1908). Obviously not
up-to-date!

(I say in England because you'd be unlikely to find it in your local
library in Barstow).





Mike Sullivan wrote:> "Tristán White" <Tristan_White@rock­etmail.com> wrote in message> news:2jai619e3bs5gu­j12va7hh0dtah8jn0hdn­@4ax.com...>
Can anyone recommend any good books on Thames Watermen, their history,>>and the history of the Doggets Coat and Badge race. Preferably with a>>record of all the people who rowed in it? (or at least, who came first>>second and third?)>>
Doing the family tree, discovered that dozens of my ancestors were>>Watermen - would be interested to see whether they took part in the>>race too!>
Please post the answer. I'd be interested in the title.> Mike>
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Alistair Potts 22 April 2005 22:38:53 permanent link ]
 ...also, no-one bothered to record the winners till 1791. Where was
Quarrell, eh?
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Mike Sullivan 23 April 2005 00:04:15 permanent link ]
 
"Alistair Potts" <alistair.potts+rsr­@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:426943b4$0$260­3$da0feed9@news.zen.­co.uk...> If you're in England you could try Gully Nickalls "The Race for the> Dogget's Coat and Badge" (London: Longmans Green, 1908). Obviously not> up-to-date!>
(I say in England because you'd be unlikely to find it in your local> library in Barstow).

Finally, a reason to visit Britain!!!
:^)­

But you'll have to come to the Barstow Library to get this:

http://63.237.164.7­0/web2/tramp2.exe/se­e_record/A1l51dba.00­1?server=1home&item=­2&item_source=1home



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Liz 23 April 2005 01:09:11 permanent link ]
 i think either of these may help

http://www.parishre­gister.com/aboutstp.­html#doggetts

http://hometown.aol­.com/rjcindex/truefl­are.html
Apprenticeship Indexes for the Company of Watermen and Lightermen of the
River Thames 1692-1949 by Robert J.Cottrell

liz

"Tristán White" <Tristan_White@rock­etmail.com> wrote in message
news:2jai619e3bs5gu­j12va7hh0dtah8jn0hdn­@4ax.com...> Can anyone recommend any good books on Thames Watermen, their history,> and the history of the Doggets Coat and Badge race. Preferably with a> record of all the people who rowed in it? (or at least, who came first> second and third?)>
Doing the family tree, discovered that dozens of my ancestors were> Watermen - would be interested to see whether they took part in the> race too!>
TRISTÁN


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Liz 23 April 2005 01:16:09 permanent link ]
 oh - and this one too (of course)

http://www.watermen­shall.org/




"liz" <liz(nospam)@twrc.o­rg> wrote in message
news:426967f4$0$259­1$da0feed9@news.zen.­co.uk...>i think either of these may help>
http://hometown.aol­.com/rjcindex/truefl­are.html> Apprenticeship Indexes for the Company of Watermen and Lightermen of the > River Thames 1692-1949 by Robert J.Cottrell>
liz


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John Mulholland 23 April 2005 20:52:24 permanent link ]
 Your link didn't work for me. And your library didn't have "The Race for
the Dogget's Coat and Badge"!

The Watermen brought two of their boats to the River Tyne a couple of years
ago. We tried to get one-up on them by taking their veteran crew to a local
pub the night before the race. In the morning their crew arrived, and it
wasn't the one's we'd been drinking with! Their real racers had been
staying sober elsewhere!

If you're in London (England) you should look them up. I haven't got their
contact details at hand, but I can get them if you e-mail me.

John Mulholland

"Mike Sullivan" <sul@SNIPslac.stanf­ord.edu> wrote in message
news:d4blc1$ctf$1@n­ews.Stanford.EDU...>­
"Alistair Potts" <alistair.potts+rsr­@gmail.com> wrote in message> news:426943b4$0$260­3$da0feed9@news.zen.­co.uk...>> If you're in England you could try Gully Nickalls "The Race for the>> Dogget's Coat and Badge" (London: Longmans Green, 1908). Obviously not>> up-to-date!>>
(I say in England because you'd be unlikely to find it in your local>> library in Barstow).>
Finally, a reason to visit Britain!!!> :^)­>
But you'll have to come to the Barstow Library to get this:>



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Kit Davies 25 April 2005 14:49:14 permanent link ]
 liz wrote:> oh - and this one too (of course)>
"liz" <liz(nospam)@twrc.o­rg> wrote in message > news:426967f4$0$259­1$da0feed9@news.zen.­co.uk...>
i think either of these may help>>
http://hometown.a­ol.com/rjcindex/true­flare.html>>Apprenti­ceship Indexes for the Company of Watermen and Lightermen of the >>River Thames 1692-1949 by Robert J.Cottrell>>

Indeed, and under "About Us" is a section on "Tracing Relatives"

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Tristn White 27 April 2005 19:15:50 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:38:53 +0100, Alistair Potts
<alistair.potts+rsr­@gmail.com> wrote:
...also, no-one bothered to record the winners till 1791. Where was >Quarrell, eh?


Found 1780 onwards here:
http://www.parishre­gister.com/aboutstp.­html#doggetts


Thanks guys for all the links by the way... that Parish Register site
is brilliant!
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Tristn White 27 April 2005 19:25:41 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:34:28 +0100, Alistair Potts
<alistair.potts+rsr­@gmail.com> wrote:
If you're in England you could try Gully Nickalls "The Race for the >Dogget's Coat and Badge" (London: Longmans Green, 1908). Obviously not >up-to-date!


Is he related to Guy Nickalls, from the Leander RC, who retired in the
same year 1908 - see 1908 http://www.oarsome.­com/site/history.asp­


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Tristn White 27 April 2005 19:32:23 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:09:11 +0100, "liz" <liz(nospam)@twrc.o­rg>
wrote:



Wow I'm speechless. That's amazing. I guess I may be in touch with
them soon!
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