you wrote:> If you want the UPA> > to change, try to come up with some real rational for the change and> > present it in a manner that is logical, pointing out the benefits of> > your change>
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i replied:> ---or, we could just ask the athletes from the national championship teams> and from the organizations that organize national champioships all around> the world(Canada, UK, Finland, Czecj, Australia, Hungary...)...> ...we could ask them....> "why do ya'll compete in/host a national championship?"> "what do you like about your county's national championship?"> "what's your favorite part about your national championship tournament?"> we could ask athletes and organizers from other sports the same questions.>
everything that they say/each answer we get.....that's the real rational
the UPA to host a National Championship in all of their divisions in the> coutry where they govern the sport.> everything that they answer...is the benefit.>
----as for "presenting in a manner that is logical"......do you> mean...presenting it to you? or to the UPA? or to this message board?> ...'cause....either way....the 'rational' is so obviously 'logical' that
needs no explanation or presentation.>
.....i'm sorry....again...why don't you like a national championship?> and....why is it exactly that you don't think that the US should hold it's> very own national championships, while all those around, do?> why is it that you don't think that the governing body of ultimate in the
should host a national championship?>
i know you're into reading moaning and pissing and whining....but i'm just> tellin' and askin'.>
No one is saying that US Nationals is a bad idea. The reality, though,> is that the UPA already hosts a tournament that is so close to what US> Nationals would be anyway;
--yeah...time to ditch the teams from outside the States. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ You're asking them to quash the more competitive> tournament for the sake of the name "US Nationals".
--hell yes! ~~~~~~~~~~~ What's in a name?
---a national championship. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Everyone knows who the US National Champions are right now, don't you?
---nope. ~~~~~~~~~~~> In the odd year when Furious wins, you have a fairly good idea too (2-3> debate aside). Is that what's bothering you?
---only that there are teams from outside the country competing at the US National Championships. ~~~~~~~~~~~~> In short, the UPA and its members value competition over semantics.
---they fucked up. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
claim you don't know what semantics are, but they're the only thing> fueling your side of the debate.
--no. i pretended that i didn't...as a joke...to...myself, i guess.
semantics are fueling my debate? no....teams from outside the US competing at US Nationals is.
