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GYXU > General > Fees may go up. 27 May 2008 16:06:19

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Fees may go up.
David Courtney 27 May 2008 16:06:19
	"Out-of-state snowmobilers would pay nearly double the fees to ride Wisconsin trails under a bill passed by the Senate Thursday. The measure would increase the out-of-state trail-use sticker fee from $18 to $35 starting July 1. Over the past two years, an average of nearly 32,000 such stickers have been sold. The increase in cost would generate an extra half-million dollars for the state. The bill must pass the Assembly and be signed by the governor before taking effect." Never mind that out-of-state snowmobilers contribute about 100 times that much to our economy... let's try to hose them for another 17 bucks just to prove we're greedy bastards. >:-( If those dipshits in Madison had any brains at all they would let the out-of-state people ride for free. One weekend of hotels, food, and gas generates more tax revenue that their stupid trail pass does. Idiots.
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Built4mud 29 February 2008 22:34:10 [ permanent link ]
	It cost me $78 to reg in state for the first sled $48 for every other sled and out of states $98 and $63 so don't complain to loudly and in this area we haven't had good ridable snow in 4 years without traveling 1-4 hours to get to the snow.I would gladly pay $35 for an out of state reg. -- Southern NH Border town '97 Indy Sport 440 '98 Formula Z 583 '03 Rincon 650 '05 Grizzly 660 http://home.comcast.net/~jon65/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html "David Courtney" <advance@powercom.net> wrote in message news:ZZqdnfvqUeAGt1XanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@enscoop.com... "Out-of-state snowmobilers would pay nearly double the fees to ride Wisconsin trails under a bill passed by the Senate Thursday. The measure would increase the out-of-state trail-use sticker fee from $18 to $35 starting July 1. Over the past two years, an average of nearly 32,000 such stickers have been sold. The increase in cost would generate an extra half-million dollars for the state. The bill must pass the Assembly and be signed by the governor before taking effect." Never mind that out-of-state snowmobilers contribute about 100 times that much to our economy... let's try to hose them for another 17 bucks just to prove we're greedy bastards. >:-( If those dipshits in Madison had any brains at all they would let the out-of-state people ride for free. One weekend of hotels, food, and gas generates more tax revenue that their stupid trail pass does. Idiots.
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Randall 1 March 2008 04:17:00 [ permanent link ]
	What I'm wondering is why the State is pocketing this money? In Quebec, most of the trail pass fees are kept by the clubs that sell them with a small portion going to the Quebec Federation of Snowmobile Clubs: " As you must know, most of the revenue from your permit goes directly to your club. So if you buy where you ride, your money improves the trails you ride most often." http://www.fcmq.qc.ca/english/pages.asp?id=85 Except for what is collected as sales tax, the government gets nothing. Unless the Wisconsin Government subsidizes the trail system (e.g. it costs more to maintain the trails than what is collected in fees), the State should just give the money to the clubs. As far as the cost, is the $35 fee a one time only fee? If so, then this is dirt cheap. Here, we charge $50 per day or $150 for a 7 day permit. Even if it's per day, it's still cheaper than here. -- Randall 1992 Ski-Doo Safari 377 (His) 1992 Ski-Doo Safari 377 Electric (Hers) "Built4mud" <Built4Mud@verizon.net> wrote in message news:CeYxj.20$Ie2.3@trndny09... It cost me $78 to reg in state for the first sled $48 for every other sled and out of states $98 and $63 so don't complain to loudly and in this area we haven't had good ridable snow in 4 years without traveling 1-4 hours to get to the snow.I would gladly pay $35 for an out of state reg. -- Southern NH Border town '97 Indy Sport 440 '98 Formula Z 583 '03 Rincon 650 '05 Grizzly 660 http://home.comcast.net/~jon65/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html "David Courtney" <advance@powercom.net> wrote in message news:ZZqdnfvqUeAGt1XanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@enscoop.com... "Out-of-state snowmobilers would pay nearly double the fees to ride Wisconsin trails under a bill passed by the Senate Thursday. The measure would increase the out-of-state trail-use sticker fee from $18 to $35 starting July 1. Over the past two years, an average of nearly 32,000 such stickers have been sold. The increase in cost would generate an extra half-million dollars for the state. The bill must pass the Assembly and be signed by the governor before taking effect." Never mind that out-of-state snowmobilers contribute about 100 times that much to our economy... let's try to hose them for another 17 bucks just to prove we're greedy bastards. >:-( If those dipshits in Madison had any brains at all they would let the out-of-state people ride for free. One weekend of hotels, food, and gas generates more tax revenue that their stupid trail pass does. Idiots.
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Repairman 2 March 2008 03:45:28 [ permanent link ]
	I pay $45 bucks to register my sleds each in NY. All sleds ridden in NY must have a NY reg. . I live in NJ. The $45 is the member of a snowmobile club price, non club members have to pay $100 . My club dues for a family membership are $25 . This is resident or non resident. Part of the reg. fee goes to the state trails fund to reimburse the clubs for trail grooming. The trails I ride have improved grooming wise over the years, for me it's a small price for better trails since I spend a lot of money getting to the trails and on a house on the trail. Nothing worse than driving 4 hrs. to ride on rough or moguled out trails IMO. -- John "anything you say can & will misquoted & used against you" '01 FLHR "Red" '07 GSX Ltd. '06 GSX Ltd. '99 XC 700
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David Courtney 2 March 2008 21:03:07 [ permanent link ]
	Yeah... I understand and don't mind paying the registration (some of the money goes to trails, signs, etc). I register 3 sleds every year and only ride one of them most years. It just bugs me that my state feels the need to hose the "tourists" who spend a fortune here. We have a lot of people from the Chicago area that own cottages or cabins or come and stay in hotels... and buy food, gas, parts, etc. Every once in awhile the "truth" will come out in a news story... that most of the money is getting diverted to "enforcement" rather than being spent on grooming and infrastructure. Basically the "administration" eats up the money and a little bit of it goes into paying officers and wardens overtime to go ride around and hassle people. LOL "Repairman" <repairman54@embarqmail.com> wrote in message news:fqcqdd$hok$1@aioe.org... I pay $45 bucks to register my sleds each in NY. All sleds ridden in NY must have a NY reg. . I live in NJ. The $45 is the member of a snowmobile club price, non club members have to pay $100 . My club dues for a family membership are $25 . This is resident or non resident. Part of the reg. fee goes to the state trails fund to reimburse the clubs for trail grooming. The trails I ride have improved grooming wise over the years, for me it's a small price for better trails since I spend a lot of money getting to the trails and on a house on the trail. Nothing worse than driving 4 hrs. to ride on rough or moguled out trails IMO. -- John "anything you say can & will misquoted & used against you" '01 FLHR "Red" '07 GSX Ltd. '06 GSX Ltd. '99 XC 700
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Repairman 3 March 2008 02:26:40 [ permanent link ]
	I agree, trail money for trail maintenance. Enforcement makes it's own money. I ride on some town maintained trails that require a permit to ride on, Old Forge NY. These trails are the best maintained groomed trails in the Adirondacks lake effect area. I gladly pay the $60 yearly permit fee to ride these trails. There are other ''free'' trails in the area but unless your riding on a Thur. and the local club grooms they are rough, cratered out by Sat. noon. In NY sled cops aren't that bad IMO, mostly I've only seen them in the notorious problem areas on Sat. afternoons. It's amazing the amount of expired registrations sleds you see pass by just taking 5 trailside or getting gas. "David Courtney" <advance@powercom.net> wrote in message news:VNCdnSBERYVuQFfanZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@enscoop.com... Yeah... I understand and don't mind paying the registration (some of the money goes to trails, signs, etc). I register 3 sleds every year and only ride one of them most years. It just bugs me that my state feels the need to hose the "tourists" who spend a fortune here. We have a lot of people from the Chicago area that own cottages or cabins or come and stay in hotels... and buy food, gas, parts, etc. Every once in awhile the "truth" will come out in a news story... that most of the money is getting diverted to "enforcement" rather than being spent on grooming and infrastructure. Basically the "administration" eats up the money and a little bit of it goes into paying officers and wardens overtime to go ride around and hassle people. LOL
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Gary C 3 March 2008 10:15:47 [ permanent link ]
	"Randall" <danews@mooseman.ca> wrote in message news:fqa79t$dms$1@aioe.org... What I'm wondering is why the State is pocketing this money? In Quebec, most of the trail pass fees are kept by the clubs that sell them [snip] Wisconsin has MANY miles of trails run by the "state", that are not designated "club trails". I can not find the same, next door, in Illinois. Wisconsin is considered snowmobile friendly, AND tourist friendly, because of this.
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Kewx11 23 May 2008 21:37:08 [ permanent link ]
	I already don't ride Wisconsin because of the current trail sticker. kw "David Courtney" <advance@powercom.net> wrote in message news:ZZqdnfvqUeAGt1XanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@enscoop.com... "Out-of-state snowmobilers would pay nearly double the fees to ride Wisconsin trails under a bill passed by the Senate Thursday. The measure would increase the out-of-state trail-use sticker fee from $18 to $35 starting July 1. Over the past two years, an average of nearly 32,000 such stickers have been sold. The increase in cost would generate an extra half-million dollars for the state. The bill must pass the Assembly and be signed by the governor before taking effect." Never mind that out-of-state snowmobilers contribute about 100 times that much to our economy... let's try to hose them for another 17 bucks just to prove we're greedy bastards. >:-( If those dipshits in Madison had any brains at all they would let the out-of-state people ride for free. One weekend of hotels, food, and gas generates more tax revenue that their stupid trail pass does. Idiots.
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David Courtney 23 May 2008 22:50:39 [ permanent link ]
	Hey, wait now... there's nobody in Madison clever enough to even think of something as shitty as a "trail pass". The only reason we have one, is because sledders from Wisconsin were complaining about having to buy a trail pass to ride in Michigan... and then some jackass in Madison got the idea that they could scam some easy money off the people from Illinois by doing the same thing. So... you started it! LOL "kewx11" <kewx11@comcast.net> wrote in message news:f7SdncJlWYhanarVnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@comcast.com... I already don't ride Wisconsin because of the current trail sticker. kw "David Courtney" <advance@powercom.net> wrote in message news:ZZqdnfvqUeAGt1XanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@enscoop.com... "Out-of-state snowmobilers would pay nearly double the fees to ride Wisconsin trails under a bill passed by the Senate Thursday. The measure would increase the out-of-state trail-use sticker fee from $18 to $35 starting July 1. Over the past two years, an average of nearly 32,000 such stickers have been sold. The increase in cost would generate an extra half-million dollars for the state. The bill must pass the Assembly and be signed by the governor before taking effect." Never mind that out-of-state snowmobilers contribute about 100 times that much to our economy... let's try to hose them for another 17 bucks just to prove we're greedy bastards. >:-( If those dipshits in Madison had any brains at all they would let the out-of-state people ride for free. One weekend of hotels, food, and gas generates more tax revenue that their stupid trail pass does. Idiots.
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Built4mud 23 May 2008 23:35:00 [ permanent link ]
	I wouldn't complain about paying $35 I pay $73 for the first sled and $48 for each additional sled for in state and the outer staters pay $93 for the first and$63 for each additional sled and we have a much shorter season than you. -- Southern N.H. Border Town 03 Honda Rincon 650 05 Yamaha Grizzly 660 97 Ski-Doo Formula Z 583 http://home.comcast.net/~jon65/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html "David Courtney" <advance@powercom.net> wrote in message news:8dCdnZfIH--Uj6rVnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@enscoop.com... Hey, wait now... there's nobody in Madison clever enough to even think of something as shitty as a "trail pass". The only reason we have one, is because sledders from Wisconsin were complaining about having to buy a trail pass to ride in Michigan... and then some jackass in Madison got the idea that they could scam some easy money off the people from Illinois by doing the same thing. So... you started it! LOL "kewx11" <kewx11@comcast.net> wrote in message news:f7SdncJlWYhanarVnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@comcast.com... I already don't ride Wisconsin because of the current trail sticker. kw "David Courtney" <advance@powercom.net> wrote in message news:ZZqdnfvqUeAGt1XanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@enscoop.com... "Out-of-state snowmobilers would pay nearly double the fees to ride Wisconsin trails under a bill passed by the Senate Thursday. The measure would increase the out-of-state trail-use sticker fee from $18 to $35 starting July 1. Over the past two years, an average of nearly 32,000 such stickers have been sold. The increase in cost would generate an extra half-million dollars for the state. The bill must pass the Assembly and be signed by the governor before taking effect." Never mind that out-of-state snowmobilers contribute about 100 times that much to our economy... let's try to hose them for another 17 bucks just to prove we're greedy bastards. >:-( If those dipshits in Madison had any brains at all they would let the out-of-state people ride for free. One weekend of hotels, food, and gas generates more tax revenue that their stupid trail pass does. Idiots.
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John Wentworth 24 May 2008 23:04:37 [ permanent link ]
	"Built4mud" <jon.briscoe@verizon.net> wrote in message news:E%EZj.23$ZM.6@trndny06... I wouldn't complain about paying $35 I pay $73 for the first sled and $48 for each additional sled for in state Why do you pay $73 for the first sled? It should be $48 per sled if you're a club member.
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Built4mud 27 May 2008 16:06:19 [ permanent link ]
	You still have to pay for the $25 club membership so its $73 but if you join a club then register later it seems like your getting a deal.I usually join the club and register at the same time because the clubs can be slow getting out your membership cards like this year when we had snow before they were mailing out the cards. "John Wentworth" <jhwentworthspam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:W9GdnXd3M5BV-6XVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com... "Built4mud" <jon.briscoe@verizon.net> wrote in message news:E%EZj.23$ZM.6@trndny06... I wouldn't complain about paying $35 I pay $73 for the first sled and $48 for each additional sled for in state Why do you pay $73 for the first sled? It should be $48 per sled if you're a club member.
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