Wednesday, 9 July 2008
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| TDF 2008-4 race report Michael Press 01:53:08 |
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Kim Kirchen's green jersey by Columbia is a sad, sad
green. Come on, guys, there are Pantone codes for this
stuff. Stop trying to be original.
Fabian, sorry about the whipping.
At least Levi was not here to administer it.
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Michael Press
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| Re: bents: saving your butt Edward Dolan 01:05:41 |
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"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6dhajnF2jgp1U1@mid.individual.net...
"Dart70ca" <ksgg@telus.net> wrote I think the style I was talking about is seen on their Stratus Keith, You're responding to someone who is nitpicking and clearly knows that "Rans" = "RANS". Some people in these newsgroups really have nothing better to do than to waste time and invoke the wasting of others' time by being petty.
It is better to have Tom Sherman nitpicking the spelling of a name than
engaging in political discourse. Please note how Ed Dolan the Great has
cleaned up this newsgroup, formerly notorious for having a lot of scurrilous
liberal Bush bashing. Please also note that Ed Dolan the Great is talking
now mainly to Himself. At long last, ARBR has been perfected as a newsgroup.
It is composed of a single Great Personage contemplating only Himself. Kind
of like God before the Creation I would imagine.
ARBR - RIP!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Tuesday, 8 July 2008
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| Re: Trikes? Trains? Cycling routes from Milwaukee to Chicago? Kristian M Zoerhoff 17:48:53 |
| | On 2008-07-07, ccarter@new.rr.com <ccarter@new.rr.com> wrote:
Some day, in the future, I'd like to plan a trip from Milwaukee to Chicago? I'd like to cycle there, but I'm unsure of cycling routes.So, instead , I'll probably take the Amtrak.
Most of the route is served by bike paths on the right-of-way of the old
Chicago, North Shore, and Milwaukee railroad. Milwaukee locals can give
you the best route from Milwaukee to Kenosha or Racine, where you can pick
this up.
Do you think a train [Amtrak?] would carry a trike?
While many Amtrak trains do, the Hiawatha from Milwaukee to Chicago does not.
And, once I'm down in Chicago I'd like to plan some cycling-related events. I'm pretty unfamiliar with the are, so I'd greatly appreciate some suggestions (ie. cycling routes, bike paths, bike shops, etc.)
The lakefront path is popular, but crowded in the summer. The city of Chicago
publishes a free bike map, showing trails, god biking streets, and shops in the
city. You can request one at <http://www.chicagobikes.org/> and have it sent
to you. Kane County (west of the city, reachable by commuter train or trail),
also has a map at <http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/com/bicycle/> that shows some
nice routes, as well as the Fox River Trail.
The city of Milwaukee has maps as well. head over to
<http://www.ci.mil.wi.us/maps4460.htm> to get one.
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Kristian Zoerhoff
kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
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| Re: 2006 Trek 2.1 Pilot fair price Tim Arnold 17:15:45 |
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"Oren" <orenfromberg@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me appraise this bike. It is a 2006 Trek 2.1 Pilot that has ~5000 miles on it. everything is stock except the cranks, cassette, and chain that were replaced in December 07... and its been dropped maybe 3 times, nothing serious  I know there are a lot of heuristics involved but I want to make sure I make a fair offer. Thanks in advance!! Oren
heuristics? First time ever in a bike AD?
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| Report Blames Biofuels for Food Crisis St 16:46:40 |
| | NEWS FLASH! Assbags!! (DUH!!)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5309161
Report Blames Biofuels for Food Crisis
A Report Leaked To The Guardian Newspaper Blames Biofuels For Food Shortage
July 4, 2008
LONDON (Reuters) - Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75 percent
-- far more than previously estimated -- according to a confidential World
Bank report published in a British newspaper on Friday.
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| Tour-de-France stage 3 summary Bob Martin 10:26:30 |
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Changes in stage 3 compared to stage 2
Biggest gainers by position :
+82 Matthias Kessler
+64 Luca Paolini
+61 Salvatore Commesso
+60 Pietro Caucchioli
+60 Frank Schleck
+58 Georg Totschnig
+54 Eduardo Gonzalo
+53 Riccardo Ricco
+53 Maxim Iglinskiy
+50 Patxi Vila
Biggest losers by position :
-149 Stuart O'Grady
-123 Christopher Horner
-123 Victor Hugo Pena
-119 Isaac Galvez
-109 Joost Posthuma
-99 Manuel Quinziato
-95 Gustav Larsson
-91 Sebastian Lang
-80 Florent Brard
-77 Robert Hunter
-73 Josй Alberto Martinez
Biggest gainers by time :
+0:30 Matthias Kessler
+0:17 Michael Rogers
+0:13 Daniele Bennati
+0:05 Xabier Zandio
+0:05 Walter Beneteau
+0:05 Vladimir Karpets
+0:05 Tom Boonen
+0:05 Stefano Garzelli
+0:05 Serguei Gonchar
+0:05 Sandy Casar
Biggest losers by time :
-18:26 Filippo Pozzato
-18:26 Magnus Backstedt
-14:34 Jimmy Casper
-12:01 Anthony Charteau
-12:01 Jimmy Engoulvent
-12:01 Kjelt Carlstrцm
-12:01 Sйbastien Joly
-11:25 Stuart O'Grady
-10:36 Aitor Hernandez
-10:36 Stйphane Auge
-7:55 Arnaud Coyot
Favourites by position :
+60 Pietro Caucchioli
+58 Georg Totschnig
+43 Michael Boogerd
+36 Stefano Garzelli
+35 Damiano Cunego
+21 Denis Menchov
+21 Carlos Sastre
+20 Gilberto Simoni
+20 David Moncoutiй
+18 Iban Mayo
+10 Levi Leipheimer
+9 Andreas Klцden
+7 Michael Rogers
+5 Serguei Gonchar
+5 Paolo Savoldelli
+5 Christophe Moreau
+5 Cadel Evans
+4 Floyd Landis
+1 George Hincapie
Favourites by time :
+0:17 Michael Rogers
+0:05 Stefano Garzelli
+0:05 Serguei Gonchar
+0:05 Pietro Caucchioli
+0:05 Paolo Savoldelli
+0:05 Michael Boogerd
+0:05 Levi Leipheimer
+0:05 Gilberto Simoni
+0:05 George Hincapie
+0:05 Georg Totschnig
+0:05 Floyd Landis
+0:05 Denis Menchov
+0:05 Christophe Moreau
+0:05 Carlos Sastre
+0:05 Cadel Evans
+0:05 Andreas Klцden
-0:07 Iban Mayo
-0:07 Damiano Cunego
-1:19 David Moncoutiй
Favourites standings :
2 Michael Rogers 0.01
3 George Hincapie 0.05
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5 Paolo Savoldelli 0.15
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7 Floyd Landis 0.16
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9 Serguei Gonchar 0.17
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11 Cadel Evans 0.20
12 Christophe Moreau 0.20
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16 Andreas Klцden 0.24
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25 Levi Leipheimer 0.28
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31 Gilberto Simoni 0.32
32 Denis Menchov 0.33
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34 Carlos Sastre 0.33
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41 Stefano Garzelli 0.38
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44 Michael Boogerd 0.41
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62 Georg Totschnig 0.50
63 Iban Mayo 0.51
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66 Pietro Caucchioli 0.53
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75 Damiano Cunego 1.00
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107 David Moncoutiй 2.17
Retirements to date :
Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears Alejandro Valverde DNF 3 <<
Davitamon-Lotto Fred Rodriguez DNF 3 <<
Liquigas Danilo Di Luca DNS 2
Rabobank Erik Dekker DNF 3 <<
Total retirements : 4
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| Re: love those windy days Bob Schwartz 03:40:44 |
| | bar wrote:
I have always felt, for a number of reasons, that black
shorts are best.
Bob Schwartz
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| Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell Mike Vandeman 03:39:46 |
| | On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:06:27 -0700 (PDT), chatnoir
<wolfbat359a@mindspring.com> wrote:
Mike Vandeman wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:02:25 -0700 Subject: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell The best recommended comment from the story about Kelowna's illegal mtb courses. The truth. It happens here, too -- not just in the USA and California, etc., like the Mayor likes to remind me. This guy, "Joe Public", could not have stated it better: "I was the live-in caretaker on Knox Mountain for two years. This is a city park and not a mountain bike course and the problem lies completely with the mentality of the mountain bikers. The city parks department went to great lengths to allow and accomodate mountain bikers within the park by discussing needs with mountain bikers and by creating authorised trails for them to use. The problem is that most mountain bikers want to do what they want and go where they want to go. They do not like to follow trails or remain is selected areas, they like to create trails and jumps, and they are destroying the park in the process. I have personally spoken to several "leaders" of local mountain bike clubs and several owners of local mountain bike stores. Up front they claim to be supportive of the park rules, yet when they think that no one is watching, they lead groups of riders down pristine park fields, creating new trails which will continue to erode for decades, or they sneak into the park after hours to ride with headlamps. When approached on unauthorised trails, university educated riders claim to have not seen the signs and curiously, the next time you catch them on the same unauthorised trails, the signs have all been knocked down. These same "leaders" were asked to form work crews to repair the destruction of the city parks, yet not one rider cared enough to show up. The rampant lack of respect for Kelowna's parks by the mountain biking community is the main reason why I did not renew my contract within the park. Over the course of 6 years, the mountain biking community of Kelowna has shown no concern for the park itself, and as such and for the sake of the park, should be banned completely. It will take 20 years to repair the damage of their unauthorised rides. I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! Alas, the true Biker!:
We know. Mountain biking causes impotence. The brain is the first
thing to go.
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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| Re: Anyone have one of these? Alexander de Large 03:09:02 |
| | Bill C wrote:
By Axel Bugge Fri Jul 4, 8:27 AM ET CHAO DE PARADA, Portugal (Reuters) - Husband and wife Francisco and Casilda Figueiredo are among the last exponents of a traditional Portuguese handicraft -- making ornamental ceramic penises.
You filthy old soomka!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/giancarletto/FILM/KUBRICK/CLOCKWORK/TRIBUTE/710clock11.jpg
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| Re: Do you feel like biking makes you a loser? Lardyninja 02:04:14 |
| | KingOfTheApes wrote:
Well, society doesn't hold cyclists in high esteem. Perhaps bicycles are associated with homelessness if used with baskets that make them practical, and bikers always risk the stigma of tree-hugger, underemployed, immigrant, laborer, etc. among the general population if used for other uses other than recreation. So how do you feel about it, jumping the San Francisco bridge? "Bicycles are often seen as having low status, associated with the poorer classes or underdeveloped nations. Even in bicycle-friendly Copenhagen and Amsterdam, pedestrian and bicycle officials talk about difficulties in dealing with planners and engineers who think only in terms of motorized solutions." THE REVOLUTION WHERE SMALL IS BETTER The chihuahua says: "Yo quiero revolution!"
You are a Turing test and ICMFP
LN
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| OT: Political Commentary Tom Sherman 02:01:37 |
| | KingOfTheApes aka Comandante Banana aka donquixote1954 wrote:
On Jul 6, 5:41 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote: KingOfTheApes aka Comandante Banana aka donquixote1954 wrote: ...I don't suppose the Leader of the Free World... I think is some sort of powerful monkey who holds the key to the survival of all other monkeys (some 6.5 billion of them)...
I do not believe that the citizens of other free countries consider the
occupant of the US White House to be their leader, especially the
current occupant.
Many residents of the US feel the same way due to the current occupant
winning election 5 to 4 along partisan lines in the US Supreme Court and
the irregularities of the 2004 election.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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| FS: 1999 Rolf Vector Pros Js 00:08:08 |
| | I have a set of 1999 Rolf Vector Pros for sale. They have low miles, well
maintained, round and true and overall in excellent shape. The freehub body
has shimano 9/10 speed splines. At the time, they retailed for $700. I'm
selling them for $200 + shipping.
I can send pictures upon request.
Thanks,
John
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Monday, 7 July 2008
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| Re: valverde's loose muscles Ted van de Weteringe 21:22:45 |
| | benn.trovato@hotmail.com wrote:
© Le Temps. Droits de reproduction et de diffusion r serv s. www.letemps.ch
Nice.
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| Caisse d'Epargne Pronunciation? Dave A 17:09:20 |
| | Being language impaired, I have no idea how to properly pronounce this.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
/d
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| Tour-de-France stage 2 summary Bob Martin 11:50:35 |
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Changes in stage 2 compared to stage 1
Biggest gainers by position :
+24 Peter Wrolich
+24 Maxim Iglinskiy
+24 Eduardo Gonzalo
+23 Stephane Goubert
+23 Ralf Grabsch
+23 Patrick Calcagni
+23 Paolo Tiralongo
+23 Mario Aerts
+23 Juan Manuel Garate
+23 Francisco Ventoso
Biggest losers by position :
-145 Bradley Wiggins
-131 Jimmy Casper
-124 Viatsjeslav Ekimov
-114 Magnus Backstedt
-112 Erik Dekker
-96 Bram De Groot
-92 Filippo Pozzato
-83 Gert Steegmans
-78 Matteo Tosatto
-74 Josй Angel Gomez
-69 Daniele Righi
Biggest gainers by time :
+0:10 Robbie McEwen
+0:08 Tom Boonen
+0:02 Thor Hushovd
Biggest losers by time :
-13:25 Aitor Hernandez
-9:47 Filippo Pozzato
-9:24 Anthony Charteau
-9:24 Jimmy Casper
-9:24 Jimmy Engoulvent
-9:24 Magnus Backstedt
-9:24 Wilfried Cretskens
-9:24 Wim Vansevenant
-8:38 Erik Dekker
-8:38 Johan Vansummeren
-7:05 Bradley Wiggins
Favourites by position :
+21 Pietro Caucchioli
+21 David Moncoutiй
+20 Georg Totschnig
+16 Damiano Cunego
+11 Michael Boogerd
+10 Stefano Garzelli
+10 Iban Mayo
+6 Denis Menchov
+6 Carlos Sastre
+5 Gilberto Simoni
+3 Levi Leipheimer
+1 Andreas Klцden
-1 Christophe Moreau
-1 Cadel Evans
-2 Serguei Gonchar
-2 Paolo Savoldelli
-2 Michael Rogers
-2 Floyd Landis
-2 Alejandro Valverde
-3 George Hincapie
Favourites by time :
-0:10 Stefano Garzelli
-0:10 Serguei Gonchar
-0:10 Pietro Caucchioli
-0:10 Paolo Savoldelli
-0:10 Michael Rogers
-0:10 Michael Boogerd
-0:10 Levi Leipheimer
-0:10 Iban Mayo
-0:10 Gilberto Simoni
-0:10 George Hincapie
-0:10 Georg Totschnig
-0:10 Floyd Landis
-0:10 Denis Menchov
-0:10 David Moncoutiй
-0:10 Damiano Cunego
-0:10 Christophe Moreau
-0:10 Carlos Sastre
-0:10 Cadel Evans
-0:10 Andreas Klцden
-0:10 Alejandro Valverde
Favourites standings :
4 George Hincapie 0.10
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7 Alejandro Valverde 0.16
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9 Michael Rogers 0.18
10 Paolo Savoldelli 0.20
11 Floyd Landis 0.21
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14 Serguei Gonchar 0.22
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16 Cadel Evans 0.25
17 Christophe Moreau 0.25
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25 Andreas Klцden 0.29
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35 Levi Leipheimer 0.33
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51 Gilberto Simoni 0.37
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53 Denis Menchov 0.38
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55 Carlos Sastre 0.38
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77 Stefano Garzelli 0.43
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81 Iban Mayo 0.44
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87 Michael Boogerd 0.46
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110 Damiano Cunego 0.53
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120 Georg Totschnig 0.55
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126 Pietro Caucchioli 0.58
127 David Moncoutiй 0.58
Retirements to date :
Liquigas Danilo Di Luca DNS 2 <<
Total retirements : 1
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| Down by the Banks of the Ohio Edward Dolan 05:05:15 |
| | I believe Tom Sherman and I are destined to fight a duel down by the banks
of the Ohio, the only river in America that is deserving of such a trial.
My one and only concern is that this be conducted with honor. If we cannot
be gentlemen, then we should not do it at all. I will want Jim McNamara of
Chicago to be my second and Tom Sherman can have Ed Gin, also of Chicago and
his criminal vandal troll buddy, to be his second. Again, the only thing
that matters in this is that honor be preserved.
I am presently seeing my eye doctor to get my prescription eye glasses
renewed. The way they are now, I cannot see anything much beyond 5 feet. I
have a pair of dueling pistols that I inherited from my grandfather. My God,
it does not matter to me whether I kill or be killed. The honor of dueling
with an equal is all that matters to me at this point in my life.
I will expect Tom Sherman do observe all of the niceties of dueling. If I am
killed I will want Jim McNamara to say an Irish prayer over my lifeless
body.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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| JimmyMac - alone at last! Edward Dolan 00:42:54 |
| | Yea, JimmyMac has managed to alienate every member of these newsgroups by
his disgusting and revolting stalking behavior. Note how no one will bother
with any of his messages anymore. He has effectively banished himself from
all of respectable humanity. He has sunk lower than a snake in the grass.
His wife no doubt is going to divorce him any day now and his faithful old
hound dog is going to leave him too. Even Ed Gin, the criminal vandal troll,
will have nothing to do with him anymore.
JimmyMac made the fatal error of not modeling himself after the Great Ed
Dolan. If he had done so, he would now be beloved by these newsgroups
instead of being universally despised. Ed Dolan the Great is a shining
beacon to all and sundry. Follow in His footsteps and you too can be Great!
JimmyMac - alone at last. He has earned it - now let him enjoy it!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Sunday, 6 July 2008
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| Re: Politics Dan Gregory 21:49:22 |
| | Andre wrote:
I'm not much into cycling politics, and I haven't kept up with the Paris-Nice fiasco; but could someone please explain why the organizers are impeding Gilbert from racing? It seems to be the team rather than the organisers. Same with Cavendish
(who is doing Tirreno-Adriatico instead)and Wiggins. Their federation
doesn't want to risk them being suspended and the teams concurred.
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| Re: Valverde in yellow....end the race today!!!! Fred Fredburger 21:22:27 |
| | bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
On Jul 5, 6:36 pm, kf3ph...@gmail.com wrote: Let the semi-famous guy win the race today, avoid the complete disgrace that is sure to follow LeMond was right, he's been right about everything. How many 3-week stage races has Valverde won? What's his highest placing in the Vuelta? In the Tour? LeMond is always right. I mean, he is right that doping is rife in the peloton, but he's hardly the only person to think that. The great thing about being LeMond (or Lafferty) is that every time some doper gets busted, it proves your point, but nothing ever would provide evidence against your point. When there is not a dope bust, it's proof of a coverup or improvement in doping strategy. (That's actually correct, but it's a lame argument.) So of course, you're always right.
They're all going to die.
Remember, I pointed it out first!
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| Mauricio Soler Carmella the Roach Killer 18:00:13 |
| | What are the odds of Mauricio Soler staying in the Tour?
If he was Tyler Hamilton, he'd just man up and continue.
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