Friday, 11 July 2008
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| Re: Cascade SR Carl Sundquist 01:27:51 |
| | "billb" <wrbmaine@msn.com> wrote in message news:71f48ef4-df62-4eb6-b229-9ce2a405e12f@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Tmmy D 3:07 down in 88th on 1st stage. Best, Bill Black 61 Steve Larsen 2.14
Is that the Steve Larsen of old?
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Thursday, 10 July 2008
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| payback to Schumacher? Enquiring minds want to know John Forrest Tomlinson 23:54:28 |
| | Did a certain American rider put out the signal to take out the yellow jersey?
Is big George like an elephant that never forgets?
Is the Eneco Tour the boiler room for Tour of France revenge?
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| Daily TdF news links Ted van de Weteringe 20:44:19 |
| | Nice comprehensive list: http://velo.kwc.org/
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| TDF 2008-5 race report Michael Press 14:04:38 |
| | Incompetence and obstruction. Who actually wanted to chase down the break? Columbia. Otherwise there were enough teams and riders to slow down the chase. Shameful when it becomes the Slow Bicycle Race. At times like these a boss in the peloton is preferable.
-- Michael Press
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| Rasmussen Alexander Lackner 13:30:29 |
| | According to his fanzine L'Equipe, he was riding amongst the peloton in the female danish RR championship last week, ignoring comissaire's calls to leave the race. How funny is that.
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| Re: Do not mess with the Badger! Mark & Steven Bornfeld 11:11:01 |
| | bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
Pictures from today's podium: The second is the best photo of this year's Tour so far. It's going to be hard to top. Ben
See how quickly Bernie reverts to that Cyrille Guimard aero tuck.
Steve
-- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001
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| Columbia using Cervelo TT bikes? Jason Spaceman 10:06:52 |
| | Whilst watching today's TdF time trial I noticed Hincapie's TT bike looked suspiciously like a rebadged Cervelo P3C --> http://www.cervelo.com/bikes.aspx?bike=P3C2008
'tis true? Giant doesn't appear to make a TT bike.
Here is a pic of Columbia/Wide Load's TdF time trial bikes --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/grupetto/2635107105/
J. Spaceman
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| Why watch the VS coverage multiple times? Mike Jacoubowsky 06:33:40 |
| | It seems stupid, really. You watch the coverage in the morning, then again late the same night. What, exactly, is it you're expecting to see that you didn't before?
A hilarious Bob Roll piece, that's what. I hope it ends up on YouTube. Lots of embarrassing moments from Bob's time on 7-11 during the 'Tour. Seriously funny.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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| The Tour is for Wankerz Davey Crockett 04:40:20 |
| | Try this one ;)
RAID LEMAN MEDITERRANEE
Avec le concours de la Ville de Nice
730Kms-21 COLS – 31238 MS de DENIVELLATIONS
Route: Thonon- D12- Coldu - Cou-Hab reLullin- Villars sur Bo ge- Col du Perret- Bog ve-Vuiz en Sallaz- Saint Jeoire – N507 – Taninges – Col de Chatillon – Cluse – Col de la Colombi re –Saint Jean de Sixt – La Cluzas – Col des Aravis - Flumet – Col des Saisies – Beaufort – Col de M raillet – Cormet de Roseland – Bonneval – Bourg Saint Maurice – Sainte Foy Tarentaise – Barrage de Tignes – Val d’Is re – Col de L’Iseran – Bonneval sur Arc – Lanslebourg – Termignon – Modane – Saint Michel de Maurienne – Col du T l graphe – Valloire – Col du Galibier – Col du Lautaret – Monetier les Bains – Brian on – Cervi res – Col de L’Izoard – Arvieux – Combes du Queyras – Guillestre – Col de Vars – Saint Paul sur Ubaye Condamine – Jausiers – Barcelonnette – Uvernet – Col de la Cayolle – Entraunes – Guillaumes – Valberg – Beuil – Col de la Couillole – Saint Sauveur sur Tin e – Saint Dalmas Valdeblore – Col Saint Martin – Saint Martin en V subie – La Boll ne – Col du Turini – Moulinet – Sospel – Col de Castillon – Menton – La Turbie – Col D’Eze – Nice -
-- Davey Crockett 9/11 was an Inside Job
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| Re: Victory in the GWOD Donald Munro 04:38:55 |
| | bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
That's Global War on Dope, if you were wondering. It's clear that this Tour is much cleaner than every other Tour since the last Tour that was cleaner than all the other Tours. As proof, since Ryan is slow to post for some reason, simply regard the Millar Line from the Stage 4 time trial: 1 Stefan Schumacher (Ger) Gerolsteiner 35.44 (49.534 km/h) 2 Kim Kirchen (Lux) Team Columbia 0.18 3 David Millar (GBr) Team Garmin-Chipotle p/b H30 " There you go - 176 riders are proven clean by being David Millar or behind him, Kirchen is on the same time as Millar so he doesn't count, and Schumacher is known to be positive, but only for amphetamines (MDMA, we expect) after post-nightclub drunk driving. The race is as pure as a glass of mineral water - Gerolsteiner, presumably. Sincerely, Brian Lafferty <http://www.druginfozone.nhs.uk/Record%20Viewing/viewRecord.aspx?id=540402>
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| Chung Charts learn to dance Ryan Cousineau 04:25:29 |
| | Now that's what I call some nice visualisations:
<http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you _ve_ever_seen.html>
What's remarkable to me, for some reason, is how diverse the outcomes were from similar starting conditions over the last 40 years.
The charts aren't perfect (are they ever?) but the animations of this data are powerful.
I'm a little (2 years) late to this video.
-- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
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| Psychiatrists identify 'climate change delusion' phenomenon... St 00:54:22 |
| | BAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23991257-25717,00.html
Doomed to a fatal delusion over climate change Article from: Herald Sun
Andrew Bolt
July 09, 2008 12:00am
PSYCHIATRISTS have detected the first case of "climate change delusion" - and they haven't even yet got to Kevin Rudd and his global warming guru.
Writing in the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry, Joshua Wolf and Robert Salo of our Royal Children's Hospital say this delusion was a "previously unreported phenomenon".
"A 17-year-old man was referred to the inpatient psychiatric unit at Royal Children's Hospital Melbourne with an eight-month history of depressed mood . . . He also . . . had visions of apocalyptic events."
"The patient had also developed the belief that, due to climate change, his own water consumption could lead within days to the deaths of millions of people through exhaustion of water supplies."
But never mind the poor boy, who became too terrified even to drink. What's scarier is that people in charge of our Government seem to suffer from this "climate change delusion", too.
DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wednesday, 9 July 2008
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| Tour-de-France stage 5 summary Bob Martin 22:21:26 |
| | Changes in stage 5 compared to stage 4 Biggest gainers by position : +17 Oscar Freire +10 Patrick Calcagni +10 Jérôme Pineau +10 Juan Manuel Garate +10 Fabian Wegmann +10 Christophe Laurent +9 Robert Hunter +9 Jose Vicente Garcia Acosta +9 Fabio Sacchi +9 Alexandre Moos Biggest losers by position : -111 Daniele Bennati -83 Egoi Martinez -79 Bert Grabsch -61 Walter Beneteau -57 Salvatore Commesso -40 Frank Schleck -26 Mario Aerts -24 Michael Albasini -19 David Moncoutié -19 Rik Verbrugghe -17 Julian Dean Biggest gainers by time : +0:08 Oscar Freire Biggest losers by time : -14:00 David De La Fuente -12:55 Sébastien Joly -5:26 Isaac Galvez -5:01 Wim Vansevenant -4:46 Anthony Charteau -4:44 Daniele Bennati -4:44 Daniele Righi -4:44 Salvatore Commesso -4:43 Peter Wrolich -4:08 Rik Verbrugghe -4:02 Julian Dean Favourites by position : +6 Damiano Cunego +5 Pietro Caucchioli +4 Stefano Garzelli +4 Michael Boogerd +4 Iban Mayo +4 Georg Totschnig +3 Gilberto Simoni +3 Denis Menchov +3 Carlos Sastre +2 Levi Leipheimer +1 Serguei Gonchar +1 Floyd Landis +1 Christophe Moreau +1 Cadel Evans +1 Andreas Klöden -1 George Hincapie -19 David Moncoutié Favourites by time : -0:12 Stefano Garzelli -0:12 Serguei Gonchar -0:12 Pietro Caucchioli -0:12 Paolo Savoldelli -0:12 Michael Rogers -0:12 Michael Boogerd -0:12 Levi Leipheimer -0:12 Iban Mayo -0:12 Gilberto Simoni -0:12 George Hincapie -0:12 Georg Totschnig -0:12 Floyd Landis -0:12 Denis Menchov -0:12 Damiano Cunego -0:12 Christophe Moreau -0:12 Carlos Sastre -0:12 Cadel Evans -0:12 Andreas Klöden -3:35 David Moncoutié Top 3 and favourites standings : 1 Tom Boonen 25.10.51 2 Michael Rogers 0.13 3 Oscar Freire 0.17 4 George Hincapie 0.17 ..... 7 Paolo Savoldelli 0.27 8 Floyd Landis 0.28 ..... 10 Serguei Gonchar 0.29 ..... 12 Cadel Evans 0.32 13 Christophe Moreau 0.32 ..... 17 Andreas Klöden 0.36 ..... 25 Levi Leipheimer 0.40 ..... 29 Gilberto Simoni 0.44 30 Denis Menchov 0.45 ..... 32 Carlos Sastre 0.45 ..... 37 Stefano Garzelli 0.50 ..... 39 Michael Boogerd 0.53 ..... 58 Georg Totschnig 1.02 59 Iban Mayo 1.03 60 Pietro Caucchioli 1.05 ..... 69 Damiano Cunego 1.12 ..... 125 David Moncoutié 5.52 Retirements to date : Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears Alejandro Valverde DNF 3 Davitamon-Lotto Fred Rodriguez DNF 3 Liquigas Danilo Di Luca DNS 2 Rabobank Erik Dekker DNF 3 Total retirements : 4
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| Re: It turns out LIVEDRUNK is a political position after all... Kyle Legate 21:43:54 |
| | Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Not sure if posting this qualifies as an undue foreign interference in a US election, but if it does, that would be pretty cool. Feel free to tell me who to vote for in the next Canadian federal election. Not Harper.
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| TDF 2008-3 race report Michael Press 12:30:08 |
| | How about Robbie Hunter? World class motor mouth. Hello, Robbie, would you care to tell us a little about .. Zooooom! I rewound the tape just to hear him again. Hope he wins one of the stages.
Jonathan Vaughters. They had him oozing sincerity for an entire segement on VS or whatever. Happily, they also put in a shot of riders having a racing break at the side of the road. Hope everything works out for you, Jonnie.
Team Columbia looks competent. Bob Stapleton said it himself, "These guys are just super-motivated." Would somebody handicap these guys in the mountains? No Italians, or Spaniards. They do not appear ready to challenge in the team standings.
41 Kim Kirchen (Lux) 42 Marcus Burghardt (Ger) 43 Mark Cavendish (GBr) 44 Gerald Ciolek (Ger) 45 Bernhard Eisel (Aut) 46 Adam Hansen (Aus) 47 George Hincapie (USA) 48 Thomas Lovkvist (Swe) 49 Kanstantsin Siutsou (Blr)
I wish Hinault had got a leg in front of that demonstrator before nudging him. Would have been more entertainng to see the clown do a face plant.
-- Michael Press
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| Tour-de-France stage 4 summary Bob Martin 12:14:54 |
| | Changes in stage 4 compared to stage 3 Biggest gainers by position : +23 Robbie McEwen +19 Laurent Lefevre +17 Egoi Martinez +15 Oscar Freire +4 Patrick Calcagni +3 Samuel Plouhinec +3 José Angel Gomez +3 Isaac Galvez +2 Stuart O'Grady +2 Samuel Dumoulin Biggest losers by position : -27 Sandy Casar -10 Matthieu Sprick -9 Cédric Coutouly -7 Bradley Wiggins -6 Daniele Righi -5 Juan Manuel Garate -4 Peter Wrolich -4 Robert Hunter -4 Sébastien Hinault -3 Bobby Julich -3 Christophe Mengin Biggest gainers by time : +0:20 Robbie McEwen +0:18 Egoi Martinez +0:12 Isaac Galvez +0:10 Laurent Lefevre +0:08 Oscar Freire Biggest losers by time : -3:06 Aitor Hernandez -2:54 Bradley Wiggins -2:23 Cédric Coutouly -2:21 Sébastien Joly -2:11 Daniele Righi -1:10 Sébastien Hinault -1:03 Wim Vansevenant -0:52 Kjelt Carlström -0:52 Magnus Backstedt -0:52 Robert Hunter -0:46 Christophe Mengin Favourites by position : +1 Pietro Caucchioli +1 Michael Boogerd +1 David Moncoutié -1 Gilberto Simoni -1 Denis Menchov -1 Carlos Sastre -2 Serguei Gonchar -2 Paolo Savoldelli -2 Levi Leipheimer -2 Floyd Landis -2 Christophe Moreau -2 Cadel Evans -2 Andreas Klöden Favourites by time : Top 3 and favourites standings : 1 Tom Boonen 19.52.13 2 Michael Rogers 0.01 3 George Hincapie 0.05 ..... 7 Paolo Savoldelli 0.15 ..... 9 Floyd Landis 0.16 ..... 11 Serguei Gonchar 0.17 ..... 13 Cadel Evans 0.20 14 Christophe Moreau 0.20 ..... 18 Andreas Klöden 0.24 ..... 27 Levi Leipheimer 0.28 ..... 32 Gilberto Simoni 0.32 33 Denis Menchov 0.33 ..... 35 Carlos Sastre 0.33 ..... 41 Stefano Garzelli 0.38 ..... 43 Michael Boogerd 0.41 ..... 62 Georg Totschnig 0.50 63 Iban Mayo 0.51 ..... 65 Pietro Caucchioli 0.53 ..... 75 Damiano Cunego 1.00 ..... 106 David Moncoutié 2.17 Retirements to date : Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears Alejandro Valverde DNF 3 Davitamon-Lotto Fred Rodriguez DNF 3 Liquigas Danilo Di Luca DNS 2 Rabobank Erik Dekker DNF 3 Total retirements : 4
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| Re: What happened to Cancellara ? Bret Wade 11:30:17 |
| | raamman@gmail.com wrote:
World TT champ; peak too soon for the tdf, train too much in the mountains, or just past his prime ? or something else ? No one wins every race. Eddy tried but it was a dismal failure.
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| Tour de What? Tom Kunich 03:18:14 |
| | Yesterday on a ride someone mentioned that they thought that there was something called a Tour going on in one of those European countries. Anyone interested enough to know what it is?
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| Re: TdF stage 8 ITT Ryan Cousineau 03:05:38 |
| | In article <98b8c20c-5b2f-49ef-a533-db6083b1deb1@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Robert Chung <rechung@gmail.com> wrote:
Conclusion: having a four-letter last name causes differential splits.
-- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
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