I prefer the hard-to-find collector's item. This one has Che and the Cuban
flag on it.
Gee, do you have the Pol Pot/Stalin/Hitler jerseys, also? Che Guevara was a
murderer. His image is not good among Cuban Americans. Would you wear a
Fidel Castro jersey?
The prominent "Cuban Americans" are a group of fascists who want to go back to the old system where they owned everything, and exploited their fellow Cubans and the point of a a police/soldier held gun. Sorry, but the era of fascist governments that jump to the wishes of Washington is coming to an end in Central and South America, in part due to the failure of World Bank/IMF imposed "neo-liberal" economic policies to provide economic growth.
How many have been murdered by fascist governments in Central and South America over the last century? Would you wear a Pinochet, Somoza or Battista jersey? How about jersey featuring right-wing Cuban terrorists such as Orlando Bosch, Luis Posada Carriles or Virgilio Paz Romero? The "Cuban American" community supports these terrorists, and has actively campaigned for having a pardon granted to Orlando Bosch and "asylum" granted to Posada.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
I prefer the hard-to-find collector's item. This one has Che and the
Cuban
flag on it.
Gee, do you have the Pol Pot/Stalin/Hitler jerseys, also? Che Guevara was
a murderer. His image is not good among Cuban Americans. Would you wear a
Fidel Castro jersey?
The prominent "Cuban Americans" are a group of fascists who want to go
back to the old system where they owned everything, and exploited their
fellow Cubans and the point of a a police/soldier held gun. Sorry, but the
era of fascist governments that jump to the wishes of Washington is coming
to an end in Central and South America, in part due to the failure of
World Bank/IMF imposed "neo-liberal" economic policies to provide economic
growth.
How many have been murdered by fascist governments in Central and South
America over the last century? Would you wear a Pinochet, Somoza or
Battista jersey? How about jersey featuring right-wing Cuban terrorists
such as Orlando Bosch, Luis Posada Carriles or Virgilio Paz Romero? The
"Cuban American" community supports these terrorists, and has actively
campaigned for having a pardon granted to Orlando Bosch and "asylum"
granted to Posada.
To answer your question---NO, I wouldn't. I wouldn't wear a Pinochet jersey. I wouldn't wear a Marcos jersey. But I wouldn't wear a Che jersey, a Fidel jersey, or a Lenin jersey either.
Do you support Fidel? Do you support death squads? Or do you only support death squads that fit your political agenda?
I prefer the hard-to-find collector's item. This one has Che and the
Cuban
flag on it.
Gee, do you have the Pol Pot/Stalin/Hitler jerseys, also? Che Guevara was
a murderer. His image is not good among Cuban Americans. Would you wear a
Fidel Castro jersey?
The prominent "Cuban Americans" are a group of fascists who want to go
back to the old system where they owned everything, and exploited their
fellow Cubans and the point of a a police/soldier held gun. Sorry, but the
era of fascist governments that jump to the wishes of Washington is coming
to an end in Central and South America, in part due to the failure of
World Bank/IMF imposed "neo-liberal" economic policies to provide economic
growth.
How many have been murdered by fascist governments in Central and South
America over the last century? Would you wear a Pinochet, Somoza or
Battista jersey? How about jersey featuring right-wing Cuban terrorists
such as Orlando Bosch, Luis Posada Carriles or Virgilio Paz Romero? The
"Cuban American" community supports these terrorists, and has actively
campaigned for having a pardon granted to Orlando Bosch and "asylum"
granted to Posada.
To answer your question---NO, I wouldn't. I wouldn't wear a Pinochet jersey.
I wouldn't wear a Marcos jersey. But I wouldn't wear a Che jersey, a Fidel
jersey, or a Lenin jersey either.
Do you support Fidel? Do you support death squads? Or do you only support
death squads that fit your political agenda?
I see Fidel Castro as being the lesser of the two evils by far. I do NOT approve of authoritarian governments in any form, but the lives of the average Cuban are better under Castro than those of lower class people in other countries in Central and South America - everybody gets housing, medical care and enough to eat. Not even the very rich US provides that to all its citizens, but (economically) poor Cuba (hindered by US economic sanctions) finds a way.
Certainly, Castro has imprisoned political opponents in violation of universal human rights. But that pales in comparison to the death by torture and assassination that has been the standard of (US supported) right-wing governments in the region.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
I prefer the hard-to-find collector's item. This one has Che and the
Cuban
flag on it.
Gee, do you have the Pol Pot/Stalin/Hitler jerseys, also? Che Guevara was
a murderer. His image is not good among Cuban Americans. Would you wear a
Fidel Castro jersey?
The prominent "Cuban Americans" are a group of fascists who want to go
back to the old system where they owned everything, and exploited their
fellow Cubans and the point of a a police/soldier held gun. Sorry, but the
era of fascist governments that jump to the wishes of Washington is coming
to an end in Central and South America, in part due to the failure of
World Bank/IMF imposed "neo-liberal" economic policies to provide economic
growth.
How many have been murdered by fascist governments in Central and South
America over the last century? Would you wear a Pinochet, Somoza or
Battista jersey? How about jersey featuring right-wing Cuban terrorists
such as Orlando Bosch, Luis Posada Carriles or Virgilio Paz Romero? The
"Cuban American" community supports these terrorists, and has actively
campaigned for having a pardon granted to Orlando Bosch and "asylum"
granted to Posada.
To answer your question---NO, I wouldn't. I wouldn't wear a Pinochet jersey.
I wouldn't wear a Marcos jersey. But I wouldn't wear a Che jersey, a Fidel
jersey, or a Lenin jersey either.
Do you support Fidel? Do you support death squads? Or do you only support
death squads that fit your political agenda?
I see Fidel Castro as being the lesser of the two evils by far. I do NOT
approve of authoritarian governments in any form, but the lives of the
average Cuban are better under Castro than those of lower class people
in other countries in Central and South America - everybody gets
housing, medical care and enough to eat. Not even the very rich US
provides that to all its citizens, but (economically) poor Cuba
(hindered by US economic sanctions) finds a way.
Certainly, Castro has imprisoned political opponents in violation of
universal human rights. But that pales in comparison to the death by
torture and assassination that has been the standard of (US supported)
right-wing governments in the region.
Being the better of two evils isn't that great a claim to fame. It
doesn't have to be like that.
Would you rather live in Cuba or Jamaica? Why?
What class was I born into?
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
I prefer the hard-to-find collector's item. This one has Che and the
Cuban
flag on it.
Gee, do you have the Pol Pot/Stalin/Hitler jerseys, also? Che Guevara was
a murderer. His image is not good among Cuban Americans. Would you wear a
Fidel Castro jersey?
The prominent "Cuban Americans" are a group of fascists who want to go
back to the old system where they owned everything, and exploited their
fellow Cubans and the point of a a police/soldier held gun. Sorry, but the
era of fascist governments that jump to the wishes of Washington is coming
to an end in Central and South America, in part due to the failure of
World Bank/IMF imposed "neo-liberal" economic policies to provide economic
growth.
How many have been murdered by fascist governments in Central and South
America over the last century? Would you wear a Pinochet, Somoza or
Battista jersey? How about jersey featuring right-wing Cuban terrorists
such as Orlando Bosch, Luis Posada Carriles or Virgilio Paz Romero? The
"Cuban American" community supports these terrorists, and has actively
campaigned for having a pardon granted to Orlando Bosch and "asylum"
granted to Posada.
To answer your question---NO, I wouldn't. I wouldn't wear a Pinochet jersey.
I wouldn't wear a Marcos jersey. But I wouldn't wear a Che jersey, a Fidel
jersey, or a Lenin jersey either.
Do you support Fidel? Do you support death squads? Or do you only support
death squads that fit your political agenda?
I see Fidel Castro as being the lesser of the two evils by far. I do NOT
approve of authoritarian governments in any form, but the lives of the
average Cuban are better under Castro than those of lower class people
in other countries in Central and South America - everybody gets
housing, medical care and enough to eat. Not even the very rich US
provides that to all its citizens, but (economically) poor Cuba
(hindered by US economic sanctions) finds a way.
Certainly, Castro has imprisoned political opponents in violation of
universal human rights. But that pales in comparison to the death by
torture and assassination that has been the standard of (US supported)
right-wing governments in the region.
Being the better of two evils isn't that great a claim to fame. It
doesn't have to be like that.
Would you rather live in Cuba or Jamaica? Why?
From what I've been told by more than one adventureous friend, Jamaica
is a very different place once one leaves the "tourist friendly"
areas. "Different" as in grindingly poor, dangerous and chaotic.
Of course, the USA, "Land of Freedom [TM]" greatly restricts the rights of its citizens to travel to Cuba to witness the conditions there first hand.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
I prefer the hard-to-find collector's item. This one has Che and the
Cuban
flag on it.
Gee, do you have the Pol Pot/Stalin/Hitler jerseys, also? Che Guevara was
a murderer. His image is not good among Cuban Americans. Would you wear a
Fidel Castro jersey?
The prominent "Cuban Americans" are a group of fascists who want to go
back to the old system where they owned everything, and exploited their
fellow Cubans and the point of a a police/soldier held gun. Sorry, but the
era of fascist governments that jump to the wishes of Washington is coming
to an end in Central and South America, in part due to the failure of
World Bank/IMF imposed "neo-liberal" economic policies to provide economic
growth.
How many have been murdered by fascist governments in Central and South
America over the last century? Would you wear a Pinochet, Somoza or
Battista jersey? How about jersey featuring right-wing Cuban terrorists
such as Orlando Bosch, Luis Posada Carriles or Virgilio Paz Romero? The
"Cuban American" community supports these terrorists, and has actively
campaigned for having a pardon granted to Orlando Bosch and "asylum"
granted to Posada.
To answer your question---NO, I wouldn't. I wouldn't wear a Pinochet jersey.
I wouldn't wear a Marcos jersey. But I wouldn't wear a Che jersey, a Fidel
jersey, or a Lenin jersey either.
Do you support Fidel? Do you support death squads? Or do you only support
death squads that fit your political agenda?
I see Fidel Castro as being the lesser of the two evils by far. I do NOT
approve of authoritarian governments in any form, but the lives of the
average Cuban are better under Castro than those of lower class people
in other countries in Central and South America - everybody gets
housing, medical care and enough to eat. Not even the very rich US
provides that to all its citizens, but (economically) poor Cuba
(hindered by US economic sanctions) finds a way.
Certainly, Castro has imprisoned political opponents in violation of
universal human rights. But that pales in comparison to the death by
torture and assassination that has been the standard of (US supported)
right-wing governments in the region.
Being the better of two evils isn't that great a claim to fame. It
doesn't have to be like that.
Would you rather live in Cuba or Jamaica? Why?
What class was I born into?
Good point. We'll say ur[]ban laborer in both cases.
Cuba, since I would be poor, but the basic necessities would be provided. In Jamaica, I would not have even that as a member of the lower class, and there would be little chance of advancement, no matter what my inherent level of ability was.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
So, did you intentionally hijack the thread for a political statement or
are you just clueless?
I didn't intend to hijack anything. Rick, the original poster, asked
"What's your favorite jersey?", so I sent a link to a picture of myself in
my favorite jersey that (depending on one's taste) is either cool or it
isn't.
But immediately people started crawling out from everywhere- The
foaming-at-the-mouth conservatives didn't like my jersey, and the net cops
didn't like the fact that I'm a top-down guy and not a bottom-up guy.
Maybe I am just clueless.
Questioning why someone would wear a jersey commemorating a murderer doesn't
equal = "foaming-at-the-mouth conservative". And still the question goes
unanswered----would you wear a Fidel Castro jersey? How about Joseph Stalin?
No, because for some reason the hipster brigade has embraced Che? Why?
Because he looks like Chris Cornell? Wears the cool beret?
Who is Chris Cornell???
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
So, did you intentionally hijack the thread for a political statement
or are you just clueless?
I didn't intend to hijack anything. Rick, the original poster, asked
"What's your favorite jersey?", so I sent a link to a picture of myself
in my favorite jersey that (depending on one's taste) is either cool or
it isn't.
But immediately people started crawling out from everywhere- The
foaming-at-the-mouth conservatives didn't like my jersey, and the net
cops didn't like the fact that I'm a top-down guy and not a bottom-up
guy. Maybe I am just clueless.
Questioning why someone would wear a jersey commemorating a murderer
doesn't equal = "foaming-at-the-mouth conservative". And still the
question goes unanswered----would you wear a Fidel Castro jersey? How
about Joseph Stalin? No, because for some reason the hipster brigade has
embraced Che? Why? Because he looks like Chris Cornell? Wears the cool
beret?
Who is Chris Cornell???
Former lead singer of Soundgarden and Audioslave.
That would explain why I had no idea.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
The pencil-neck is not only a NetCop, he's also a hypocrite!
Note I was not complaining about off topic threads, just not changing the thread title.
Note that I have been changing thread titles to indicate thread drift to off-topic subjects.
Note that Ozark Bicycle is too consumed by jealousy and/or bitterness to get his facts straight.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
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