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GYXU > Cycling > Cold-Setting Ti Frames? 19 April 2005 08:33:13

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Cold-Setting Ti Frames?

David White 18 April 2005 20:10:57
 Hello. I have a rear triangle alignment problem on my Merlin (identified using
the old string method) and confirmed to NOT be correct alignment by the frame's
designer (Tom Kellogg). Merlin says that the frame can be sent back to the
factory where they will cold-set it back into alignment like a steel frame.
Having cold-set steel frames in the past, I am familiar with the technique. But
I wonder if there are any special tips or techniques that should be used when
working with ti? Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
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Tom Kunich 19 April 2005 03:46:00 permanent link ]
 "philcycles" <philcycles@aol.com­> wrote in message
news:1113865018.269­243.102100@o13g2000c­wo.googlegroups.com.­..>x But> I wonder if there are any special tips or techniques that should be> used when> working with ti? Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.>
Sent it back. The force required to set a Ti frame is much greater than> a steel frame.> Phil Brown

The force is less but the overbend necessary to get a set is a lot greater.
This sort of thing is best left to someone who has practiced it.


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Jim Beam 19 April 2005 07:16:44 permanent link ]
 David White wrote:> Hello. I have a rear triangle alignment problem on my Merlin (identified > using the old string method) and confirmed to NOT be correct alignment > by the frame's designer (Tom Kellogg). Merlin says that the frame can be > sent back to the factory where they will cold-set it back into alignment > like a steel frame. Having cold-set steel frames in the past, I am > familiar with the technique. But I wonder if there are any special tips > or techniques that should be used when working with ti? Thanks in > advance for any info you can provide.

you don't want or need to know, just send it back to merlin.

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Mark Hickey 19 April 2005 08:33:13 permanent link ]
 "Tom Kunich" <tkunich@earthlink.­net> wrote:
"philcycles" <philcycles@aol.com­> wrote in message >news:1113865018.26­9243.102100@o13g2000­cwo.googlegroups.com­...>>x But>> I wonder if there are any special tips or techniques that should be>> used when>> working with ti? Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.>>
Sent it back. The force required to set a Ti frame is much greater than>> a steel frame.>> Phil Brown>
The force is less but the overbend necessary to get a set is a lot greater. >This sort of thing is best left to someone who has practiced it.

Tom's right - it DOES take a lot of deflection on a ti frame to get it
to "take a set". Merlins have beefy stays similar to those on a
Habanero, and would no doubt take a similar amount of force to
realign.

I wouldn't be too paranoid about cold-setting it, but would sincerely
recommend going slowly and carefully. Brace the frame, apply the
force and re-check. Repeat until straight. In the end, don't be
surprised if you end up literally standing on the frame to get it
where you want it (which seems like a lot for a 3-ish pound frame, but
they're pretty tough).

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycle­s.com
Home of the $695 ti frame
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