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GYXU > Cycling > Does slippery rim tape increase or decrease rolling resistance? 30 March 2005 22:39:40

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Does slippery rim tape increase or decrease rolling resistance?

Jens Kurt HEYCKE 30 March 2005 08:04:17
 Does slippery rim tape (or electrical tape, for that matter), increase
or decrease rolling resistance? Why?

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Werehatrack 30 March 2005 10:10:43 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:04:17 -0800, "Jens Kurt HEYCKE" <jkheycke @at@
yahoo.com> wrote:
Does slippery rim tape (or electrical tape, for that matter), increase>or decrease rolling resistance?

No.
Why?

There is no significant flexure of anything at that interface, and
there had damned well better not be any slippage of anything when the
tube is inflated.
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S o r n i 30 March 2005 12:21:44 permanent link ]
 Jens Kurt HEYCKE wrote:> Does slippery rim tape (or electrical tape, for that matter), increase> or decrease rolling resistance? Why?

Increases it by .0023%.

Why? Because the air molecules inside the tire move around just a tad more,
which adds a smidge of draggage as the tread is displaced ever so slightly
(mostly sideways, but also radially).

You can remedy this by stretching a number of tacky rubber bands around the
slippy rim strip; or even more simply, by pouring some soda or hot soup in
the tire and sloshing (noodling?) it around.

HTH,

BS (OK, in this case...yeah)


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Smokva 30 March 2005 15:28:27 permanent link ]
 "S o r n i" <NoSpamSorniNoSpam@­SpamMeNotBot.san.rr.­com> wrote:
Increases it by .0023%.

You are wrong...the number is much bigger. It is 0.0230007%

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Mark Hickey 30 March 2005 17:36:05 permanent link ]
 smokva <smokvaMAKNI@OVOgmx­.net> wrote:
"S o r n i" <NoSpamSorniNoSpam@­SpamMeNotBot.san.rr.­com> wrote:>
Increases it by .0023%.>
You are wrong...the number is much bigger. It is 0.0230007%

Ahhhh, but at what altitude?

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Werehatrack 30 March 2005 18:59:55 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:36:05 -0700, Mark Hickey <mark@habcycles.com­>
may have said:
smokva <smokvaMAKNI@OVOgmx­.net> wrote:>
"S o r n i" <NoSpamSorniNoSpam@­SpamMeNotBot.san.rr.­com> wrote:>>
Increases it by .0023%.>>
You are wrong...the number is much bigger. It is 0.0230007%>
Ahhhh, but at what altitude?

The color of the tire must also be taken into account. Blue tires
cause more doppler drag than red.

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Retroed Bob 30 March 2005 20:57:02 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:59:55 -0600, Werehatrack
<rault00@earthWEEDS­link.net> wrote:
The color of the tire must also be taken into account. Blue tires>cause more doppler drag than red.


Whoa. Let's back up. He also said "by pouring some soda or hot soup
in the tire and sloshing (noodling?) it around."

I would suggest there is a big difference in adhesion using the soda
vs. the soup. Coke may actually be sticker when dried than rim tape.


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Werehatrack 30 March 2005 22:39:40 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:57:02 GMT, Retroed Bob
<uctraingNOSPAMO@ul­tranet.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:59:55 -0600, Werehatrack><rault0­0@earthWEEDSlink.net­> wrote:>
The color of the tire must also be taken into account. Blue tires>>cause more doppler drag than red.>
Whoa. Let's back up. He also said "by pouring some soda or hot soup >in the tire and sloshing (noodling?) it around.">
I would suggest there is a big difference in adhesion using the soda>vs. the soup. Coke may actually be sticker when dried than rim tape.

Coke won't dry inside the tire. OTOH, the starches in the noodles
might polymerize and cause the apparent viscosity to increase. Also,
fermentation byproducts may cause the tire's pressure to rise; I doubt
that Coke will ferment in that situation.

None of this, however, addresses the issue of the increased rotating
mass and its effect on the balance of power in the Balkans.
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