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GYXU > Cycling > Re: Isocyanates and asthma 31 March 2005 06:06:30

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Re: Isocyanates and asthma

Werehatrack 29 March 2005 00:53:22
 Relates to r.b.t in what manner?

A one-shot post well off-topic; smells like a troll to me.

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CEarly 29 March 2005 08:39:52 permanent link ]
 
"Jodi" <jodissey@hotmail.c­om> wrote in message
news:1112025172.785­340.264580@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..>I heard that the chemical based isocyanate products can cause acute> asthma attacks, respritory failure and death, is this true? and there> is no nationwide system for spray on facility inspections? how are they> keeping employees safe? I work in the office and I can still be> exposed!!!!>

Don't panic, ma'am. I'm sure "they" only use all-natural, non-chemical
isocyanate products gently squeezed from organically grown isocyanate
shrubs, lovingly nurtured with nothing more than pure morning dew and
caressed daily by fresh mountain breezes.

Even so, you should be wearing a positive pressure respirator to ensure your
safety; 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. One can't be too careful.







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Weisse Luft 29 March 2005 09:15:32 permanent link ]
 
Yes, isocynates can cause lung problems but these compounds are highly
reactive and as such, have a very short half life in the environment.
Most urethanes no longer use high vapor pressure isocynates and rely on
pre-reacted isocynates which have much lower vaporization rates. Most
urethanes are free of toluene diisocyanate, the leading cluprit in
industrial induced asthma.


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Werehatrack 29 March 2005 21:37:35 permanent link ]
 On 29 Mar 2005 08:57:08 -0800, "Jodi" <jodissey@hotmail.c­om> wrote:
Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

No.


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David Damerell 29 March 2005 21:43:52 permanent link ]
 Quoting Jodi <jodissey@hotmail.c­om>:>I searched on google Isocyanates and this chat room came up, just>thought you may know something.

Are you also junking up every other newsgroup (not "chat room") where
anyone has mentioned isocyanates ever?

The word "bicycles" might serve as a bit of a hint.
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Jay Beattie 29 March 2005 23:45:54 permanent link ]
 
"Jodi" <jodissey@hotmail.c­om> wrote in message
news:1112115428.807­399.8130@f14g2000cwb­.googlegroups.com...­> Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I
read a> case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a
reason> to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

Exposure to isocyanates in the work place is governed by OSHA.
http://www.osha.gov­/SLTC/isocyanates/st­andards.html The case you
are talking about probably involved a painter using an epoxy
paint with isocyanates. Many of those paints are gone or
reformulated, like IMRON. Or these paints are being applied with
HVLP which puts less paint in the air -- and they are using moon
suits. Moreover, there are no free isocyanates once the paint
dries. It is a non-issue. -- Jay Beattie.


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Jim Smith 30 March 2005 02:21:22 permanent link ]
 "Jodi" <jodissey@hotmail.c­om> writes:
Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you> take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"> comes up. Why all the anger???

Heh. "topic of this website" oh my.

Put on your respirator and back away from the computer.
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Weisse Luft 30 March 2005 05:01:51 permanent link ]
 
Isocyanates are found in polyurethane paints, not epoxies. They haven't
been removed, only larger chain isocyanates have replaced the famous
toluene diisocyanate. TDI has an appreciable vapor pressure, leading
to the problems. Single component polyurethanes like poly spar varnish
and foaming urethane glues are immune from the isocyanate vapor
problems.


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Ed 30 March 2005 05:45:58 permanent link ]
 In article <1112115428.807399.­8130@f14g2000cwb.goo­glegroups.com>, Jodi says...>
Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???>
I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
You don't often read about this but it is true.

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Dennis P. Harris 30 March 2005 11:14:00 permanent link ]
 On 29 Mar 2005 14:02:01 -0800 in rec.bicycles.tech, "Jodi"
<jodissey@hotmail.c­om> wrote:
Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you> take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"> comes up. Why all the anger???>
it's not a web site. it's a news group devoted to bicycles.
chemicals are off topic *except* when discussed in the context of
cycling technology. now just go away and take your oxygen bottle
with you.


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S o r n i 30 March 2005 11:59:48 permanent link ]
 Weisse Luft wrote:> Isocyanates are found in polyurethane paints, not epoxies. They> haven't been removed, only larger chain isocyanates have replaced the> famous toluene diisocyanate. TDI has an appreciable vapor pressure,> leading to the problems. Single component polyurethanes like poly> spar varnish and foaming urethane glues are immune from the> isocyanate vapor problems.

How many /possible/ bike-related references in the above paragraph?

(Hint: quite a few, with stretches.)

Bill "and there's ANOTHER one" S.


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Werehatrack 30 March 2005 19:02:00 permanent link ]
 On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <Ed_member@newsguy.­com> may have
said:
In article <1112115428.807399.­8130@f14g2000cwb.goo­glegroups.com>, Jodi says...>>
Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a>>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason>>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???>>
I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water. >You don't often read about this but it is true.

www.dhmo.org

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RonSonic 30 March 2005 19:04:44 permanent link ]
 On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <Ed_member@newsguy.­com> wrote:
In article <1112115428.807399.­8130@f14g2000cwb.goo­glegroups.com>, Jodi says...>>
Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a>>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason>>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???>>
I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water. >You don't often read about this but it is true.

The media have been covering up for the Dihydrogen Monoxide producers and don't
report these stories.

http://www.circus.c­om/~nodhmo/

Do what you can to prevent further DHMO related damage to our environment.

Ron
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RonSonic 31 March 2005 05:35:11 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:02:00 -0600, Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDS­link.net>
wrote:
On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <Ed_member@newsguy.­com> may have>said:>
In article <1112115428.807399.­8130@f14g2000cwb.goo­glegroups.com>, Jodi says...>>>
Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a>>>case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason>>>to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???>>>
I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water. >>You don't often read about this but it is true.>

Good link, but don't get caught up in all the negativity. Check out the real
story here: http://www.armory.c­om/~crisper/DHMO/


Ron

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