Tim McNamara 27 February 2005 21:56:57 [ permanent link ]
"AC" <acmisc@gmail.com> writes:
Hello:>
Does anybody know who makes stems around that range? My new bike has> a rather long headtube, and I need something to lower my bars.>
I know Ricthey made a 73, but apparently they discontinued that, or> so I heard.
Are you looking for a quill stem or a threadless stem? If the latter, they are often called "-17 degree" stems. However, thanks to the trend of fitting people on too-small frames with threadless headsets, stems such as these have become less common than they used to be. 90 degree plus 5 or 10 degrees uptilt is pretty much the norm.
AC wrote:> Does anybody know who makes stems around that range? My new bike has a > rather long headtube, and I need something to lower my bars.> I know Ricthey made a 73, but apparently they discontinued that, or so I > heard.
If you mean a quill or an ahead stem which extends parallel to the ground, there's no shortage of them. Nomenclature has gotten impenetrable (-15?) but the stems haven't changed.
(p.s.- over 100mm you can't tell 74 degrees from 73 degrees) -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
If you mean a quill or an ahead stem which extends parallel> to the ground, there's no shortage of them.
I disagree that there's no shortage when it comes to ahead stems.
Please name some ~73 deg ahead stems with 25.8 or 26.0 bar clamp. I only know of the Deda Zero and the Ritchey ones. It seems to me that, unlike quill stems, the norm angle for ahead stems is about 82 degrees, and that makes a crucial difference.
Nomenclature has> gotten impenetrable (-15?) but the stems haven't changed.
I looked around and it looks like the Zero is no longer made. Anything around -17 to -15 would be just fine.
Thanks. AC
"Pete Biggs" <pwrinkledgrape{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote in message news:38egsdF5n13oqU1@individual.net...> AC wrote:>> Does anybody know who makes stems around that range?>
A Muzi wrote:>>If you mean a quill or an ahead stem which extends parallel>>to the ground, there's no shortage of them.
Pete Biggs wrote:> I disagree that there's no shortage when it comes to ahead stems.> Please name some ~73 deg ahead stems with 25.8 or 26.0 bar clamp. I only> know of the Deda Zero and the Ritchey ones. It seems to me that, unlike> quill stems, the norm angle for ahead stems is about 82 degrees, and that> makes a crucial difference.
(am)>>Nomenclature has>>gotten impenetrable (-15?) but the stems haven't changed.
(pb)> I think the stems /have/ changed.
I think you have a point. I should have looked first.
While there certainly are some ( the Ritchey you mentioned, Profile, Santana's Evolution [for tandems], there a _lot_ more "82" than "73". Geez that changed fast!
"A Muzi" <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote in message news:1124lu94kgpu1e5@corp.supernews.com...>> A Muzi wrote:>>>If you mean a quill or an ahead stem which extends parallel>>>to the ground, there's no shortage of them.>
Pete Biggs wrote:>> I disagree that there's no shortage when it comes to ahead stems.>> Please name some ~73 deg ahead stems with 25.8 or 26.0 bar clamp. I only>> know of the Deda Zero and the Ritchey ones. It seems to me that, unlike>> quill stems, the norm angle for ahead stems is about 82 degrees, and that>> makes a crucial difference.>
(am)>>Nomenclature has>>>gotten impenetrable (-15?) but the stems haven't changed.>
(pb)> I think the stems /have/ changed.>
I think you have a point. I should have looked first.>
While there certainly are some ( the Ritchey you mentioned, Profile, > Santana's Evolution [for tandems], there a _lot_ more "82" than "73". Geez > that changed fast!>
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:42:37 GMT, "AC" <acmisc@gmail.com> wrote:
I looked around and it looks like the Zero is no longer made. Anything >around -17 to -15 would be just fine.
What length do you need. I have a few ITM stems that I believe are 17 degree. The downside is that they are closed face, which never bothered me. I changed frame size and now need longer stems than 110.