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Re: Will this be the death of cycling in the US?

Geraard Spergen 19 April 2005 02:17:13
 
"crit PRO" <critpro@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1113862370.262­186.17910@z14g2000cw­z.googlegroups.com..­.> Lance stepping down.> Tyler getting sacked.>
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,> 2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.>
crit PRO>

It's Monday.


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Laz 19 April 2005 03:07:32 permanent link ]
 Guess who doesn't have to get up to go to work on mondays ( or tuesdays
either ) ....

"Geraard Spergen" <Gspergen@spammagne­t.net> wrote in message
news:1113862646.895­1be3a0fb63474eed25d8­fc988f4ca@teranews..­.>
"crit PRO" <critpro@aol.com> wrote in message> news:1113862370.262­186.17910@z14g2000cw­z.googlegroups.com..­.> > Lance stepping down.> > Tyler getting sacked.> >
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,> > 2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.> >
crit PRO> >
It's Monday.>


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David Ferguson 19 April 2005 03:56:28 permanent link ]
 
People who cycle now don't decide whether or not go out because Lance
is cycling.

I do imagine that the number of people who enter the sport/recreation
each year because of their exposure to Lance will decrease, but he was
going to retire someday anyway.

Cycling isn't popular enough to notice the decline in participants.
What we'll notice is the severe decrease in coverage by magazines and
television.

Dave

On 18 Apr 2005 15:12:50 -0700, "crit PRO" <critpro@aol.com> wrote:
Lance stepping down.>Tyler getting sacked.>
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,>2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.>
crit PRO

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Carl Sundquist 19 April 2005 04:33:53 permanent link ]
 
"crit PRO" <critpro@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1113862370.262­186.17910@z14g2000cw­z.googlegroups.com..­.> Lance stepping down.> Tyler getting sacked.>
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,> 2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.>
crit PRO

There seems to be a disconnect between you and whoever set up the chairs and
the number of media who felt the news conference was something worth
covering.

http://www.cyclingn­ews.com/news.php?id=­photos/2005/news/apr­05/lance/B85F9582

I'll bet they even had a free appetizer buffet for the media, too


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Psycholist 19 April 2005 05:08:00 permanent link ]
 "crit PRO" <critpro@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1113862370.262­186.17910@z14g2000cw­z.googlegroups.com..­.> Lance stepping down.> Tyler getting sacked.>
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,> 2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.>
crit PRO

As long as we've got Bobby Julich and Chris Horner, there's hope, right? ...
right?

--
Bob C.

"Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)


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Casey Kerrigan 19 April 2005 05:17:20 permanent link ]
 In article <14i8615k485nn51qno­9qits7r8ms298q9r@4ax­.com>, David Ferguson
<Zeds_Dead70@yahoor­emove.com> wrote:
People who cycle now don't decide whether or not go out because Lance> is cycling.>
I do imagine that the number of people who enter the sport/recreation> each year because of their exposure to Lance will decrease, but he was> going to retire someday anyway.>
Cycling isn't popular enough to notice the decline in participants.> What we'll notice is the severe decrease in coverage by magazines and> television.

The popularity of bicycle racing ( in terms of the number of people
actually racing) isn't really affected by Lance or any other popular
Pro racer. The bigger factor is having good grass roots programs that
make it easier for people interested in racing to give the sport a try.
We could probably easily double the number of USCF licensed riders if
each racing region had monthly training clinics for new racers, more
separate races for Cat 5 men and Cat 4 women ( at both the elite and
master levels) and other programs to make life easier for entry level
riders.
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Howard Kveck 19 April 2005 06:00:38 permanent link ]
 In article <1113865874.815963.­202610@o13g2000cwo.g­ooglegroups.com>,
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail­.com> wrote:
Dumbass ->
Cycling has to be alive in this country before it can die.

For some reason, this reminds me of a scene from "Young Frankenstein".

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Sam 19 April 2005 07:17:55 permanent link ]
 
"crit PRO" <critpro@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1113862370.262­186.17910@z14g2000cw­z.googlegroups.com..­.> Lance stepping down.> Tyler getting sacked.>
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,> 2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.>
crit PRO>

So one athlete announcing his retirement and another being suspended equates
in your mind to a popular US President being assassinated?


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Donald Munro 19 April 2005 14:48:01 permanent link ]
 Carl Sundquist wrote:> http://www.cyclingn­ews.com/news.php?id=­photos/2005/news/apr­05/lance/B85F9582>> I'll bet they even had a free appetizer buffet for the media, too

gym.gravity wrote: > Is Jeff Jones in that shot?

If he is he must have traded in the blimp for a used concorde.

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Jeff Jones 19 April 2005 15:49:43 permanent link ]
 Donald Munro wrote:> Carl Sundquist wrote:>>
http://www.cyclingn­ews.com/news.php?id=­photos/2005/news/apr­05/lance/B85F9582>>>­ I'll bet they even had a free appetizer buffet for the media, too>
gym.gravity wrote:>> Is Jeff Jones in that shot?>
No.
If he is he must have traded in the blimp for a used concorde.

The CN dirigible is holding up very well, thank you. We managed to get it up
in the air on Sunday when all the TV helicopter pilots were afraid of the
fog, although I think at one point we were covering a 1.2 race in France.
But a bit of reverse engineering in the online reportage fixed that up quite
seamlessly.

I've just gotta get the foot pump out to make sure we have enough air to get
to Charleroi tomorrow. Anyone know which way the wind is coming from?

Jeff


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Robert Chung 19 April 2005 16:12:02 permanent link ]
 Jeff Jones wrote:> Anyone know which way the wind is coming from?

Yeah, where are Brian and Tom?


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Curtis L . Russell 19 April 2005 17:56:33 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:17:20 GMT, Casey Kerrigan
<casey@caseykerriga­n.com> wrote:
The popularity of bicycle racing ( in terms of the number of people>actually racing) isn't really affected by Lance or any other popular>Pro racer. The bigger factor is having good grass roots programs that>make it easier for people interested in racing to give the sport a try.

It would also help to have some heavily promoted USCF A and B races in
every region. Seeing a real bike race up close has more impact than
the Tour on TV IMO. OTOH, its hard to find the D race in the local
industrial park.

Coverage in the newspapers probably suffers from a near requirement
that the results be available in time for the next day's paper on a
regular basis. If each area assigned someone to do that, papers might
start using the results as filler. There's a local angle in almost
every race. But that doesn't happen that much from my experience. Its
far more common for everyone to have a 'pay the prizes, pack up the
finish line and go home' attitude.

It might even help to encourage interest among the non-racers, instead
of the reverse. The disconnect and disdain seen between non-racers and
racers chops off the primary spectator group at the knees. Bike clubs
used to ride to the stages of the Tour du Pont/Trump - they could do
the same for a well promoted A or B race. I was a newsletter editor
for LAW/LAB bike clubs for probably a decade total and never saw one
item from a USCF club.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Donald Munro 19 April 2005 18:38:51 permanent link ]
 Jeff Jones wrote:>> Anyone know which way the wind is coming from?

Robert Chung wrote: > Yeah, where are Brian and Tom?

Perhaps Brian at the Vatican lobbying any prospective popes for
ex-communication for dopers.

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Cat6 19 April 2005 19:50:46 permanent link ]
 
crit PRO Wrote: > Lance stepping down.> Tyler getting sacked.>
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,> 2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.>
crit PRO

WHAU-WHAU WHAUUUUU


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cat6

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Sam 20 April 2005 07:16:27 permanent link ]
 
"Scott" <hendricks_scott@ho­tmail.com> wrote in message
news:1113940160.720­165.20770@l41g2000cw­c.googlegroups.com..­.>
Sam wrote:>> "crit PRO" <critpro@aol.com> wrote in message>> news:1113862370.262­186.17910@z14g2000cw­z.googlegroups.com..­.>> > Lance stepping down.>> > Tyler getting sacked.>> >
Same day. Where were you when you heard the news? Tuesday April 18,>> > 2005. It's the Kennedy moment for our generation.>> >
crit PRO>> >
So one athlete announcing his retirement and another being suspended> equates>> in your mind to a popular US President being assassinated?>
That dumbass didn't even know yesterday was MONDAY.>
BTW, is it better or worse if an UNpopular president is assassinated?>
If those are the only choices I have, then unpopular I guess :)­


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Stewart Fleming 20 April 2005 10:32:37 permanent link ]
 

Donald Munro wrote:> Carl Sundquist wrote:>
I'll bet they even had a free appetizer buffet for the media, too>
gym.gravity wrote: >
Is Jeff Jones in that shot?>
If he is he must have traded in the blimp for a used concorde.>

http://www.ufoevide­nce.org/topics/belgi­um.htm
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