<tvphotog@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:1111867584.015984.20520@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...>
DA74 wrote:> > 95% of Euro races don't matter. Yes, the teams would like to win but> > they're training races. That's it. Training rides with prizes.>
So first, to impress us with your "Pro" cred, you mention that you've> been is such "prestegious" races as TdG, USPro, and the SFGP. But not> one of those races would seroiusly be considered in the top five> percent of Euro races. So, by your own description, you don't do real> races but glorified training rides, right? So help me out here....since> you only do races that don't matter, does that you you a pro, or a> soon-to-be fattie master in denial?>
Not to mention that there are only about 20, some might say less, riders in the Tour with their primary focus on gc placings. Hell some teams go into it knowing they don't have a gc contender.
Doesn't say much for your view of the sport in a positive way, does it?
MagillaGorilla 27 March 2005 01:13:28 [ permanent link ]
tvphotog@earthlink.net wrote:
DA74 wrote:>
95% of Euro races don't matter. Yes, the teams would like to win but>>they're training races. That's it. Training rides with prizes.>
So first, to impress us with your "Pro" cred, you mention that you've> been is such "prestegious" races as TdG, USPro, and the SFGP. But not> one of those races would seroiusly be considered in the top five> percent of Euro races. So, by your own description, you don't do real> races but glorified training rides, right? So help me out here....since> you only do races that don't matter, does that you you a pro, or a> soon-to-be fattie master in denial?>
Dear CBS employee who posts to RBR on company time,
Those are quality US races - everyone who shows up is there to win with few exceptions (i.e. Vino and Pink at San Fran). Not even Lance could win any of them unless he brought his A game.
Those races are important in the US and to US sponsors.
Carl Sundquist 27 March 2005 01:50:20 [ permanent link ]
"MagillaGorilla" <MagillaGorilla@zoo.com> wrote in message>
Dear CBS employee who posts to RBR on company time,
With maturity comes discretion and more freedom.
Those are quality US races - everyone who shows up is there to win with> few exceptions (i.e. Vino and Pink at San Fran). Not even Lance could> win any of them unless he brought his A game.>
LOL
Those races are important in the US and to US sponsors.>
So 95% of the Euro races don't matter, but all the big US races do 'cuz you show up at the start line?
95% of Euro races don't matter. Yes, the teams would like to win but> they're training races. That's it. Training rides with prizes. No> one is sitting around spunking all over the race bible to see where> they are going to launch their winning move. They simply show up to> the race, clock in, race their bike and clock out. It's a job - simple> as that. I know this disappoints you but they care far less than you> do.
This is not believable. Only a very well established rider could afford to focus on just the top 5% of the races. Someone who's never won at the pro level will want that win badly where ever they can get it. Someone not assured of making their team's TDF or Giro roster will be motivated to show that they're worthy. The teams need to rack up race wins and the exposure that goes with it for their sponsors. They also need to win to gain entry at the top races. There's a wide variety of motivations involved and more than enough to make the 2nd tier races interesting. A win is a win and the more of them the better the better.
MagillaGorilla 27 March 2005 02:09:51 [ permanent link ]
Carl Sundquist wrote:
"MagillaGorilla" <MagillaGorilla@zoo.com> wrote in message>
Dear CBS employee who posts to RBR on company time,>
With maturity comes discretion and more freedom.>
Those are quality US races - everyone who shows up is there to win with>>few exceptions (i.e. Vino and Pink at San Fran). Not even Lance could>>win any of them unless he brought his A game.>>
Those races are important in the US and to US sponsors.>>
So 95% of the Euro races don't matter, but all the big US races do 'cuz you> show up at the start line?
Carl,
There's only like 5 or 6 US races that matter. The rest are just a time clock stamps. Yes, they are better than 95% of the Euro races.
Carl Sundquist 27 March 2005 02:14:05 [ permanent link ]
"Bret Wade" <bret.wade@xilinx.com> wrote in message>
This is not believable. Only a very well established rider could afford> to focus on just the top 5% of the races. Someone who's never won at the> pro level will want that win badly where ever they can get it. Someone> not assured of making their team's TDF or Giro roster will be motivated> to show that they're worthy. The teams need to rack up race wins and the> exposure that goes with it for their sponsors. They also need to win to> gain entry at the top races. There's a wide variety of motivations> involved and more than enough to make the 2nd tier races interesting. A> win is a win and the more of them the better the better.>
"DA74" <davidastor74@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1111898161.696856.224490 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
In the US most are just glorified cat ones.
Yourself included I guess?
Now go back to gulping down that malt liquor and smacking your> girlfriend.
Wrong on both counts. It's Diet Pepsi, and your mom. She says, "Hi," by the way, and wants to know when you're going to move out of the basement. It's not that she has plans for it, she just wants you to stop pretending you're a pro an get a real job.
In article <1112050416.818114.254100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com> wrote:>Yea, minus the 'fat' part.>
Me, on the other hand, I am fat. But... I don't spend all my time>lusting over the latest over-priced, over-hyped go-fast gadget trying>to buy speed, so I guess I don't really meet the profile, either.
Um... Scott? You set yourself up here
Come to think of it, Bret doesn't fit that part of the profile, either.> Unless you count a two year old $450 aluminum frame w/ Cane Creek>wheels as the ultimate in Masters Fattie's buying extravagance.
I don't think Bret is fat... you and me.... we are masters fatties.
My bike weighs to much to have all that other crap.
I just wish we rode closer to the same size frames so I could get in on your "recycling" program.
In article <1112050818.004662.137030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com> wrote:>I saw your wedding photos online, you're getting precariously close to>losing your fattie status. (unless, of course, being married has been>too good for you and you've put it back on).>
I don't see THAT happening, but it has been good. I am even riding/training.
Me, on the other hand, I am fat. But... I don't spend all my time> lusting over the latest over-priced, over-hyped go-fast gadget trying> to buy speed, so I guess I don't really meet the profile, either.>
Come to think of it, Bret doesn't fit that part of the profile, either.> Unless you count a two year old $450 aluminum frame w/ Cane Creek> wheels as the ultimate in Masters Fattie's buying extravagance.>
You're not jealous of my ride Scott? Russ Denny builds a very sensible frame. Cane Creek makes very sturdy wheels. Hmmm. I think I see the problem.
I'm guessing you have not ever paid any attention what so ever to any>>previous threads which Bret has contributed to, nor have you read any>>mention of his racing experience. It's funny to see your assumption>>that he's green (I assume you mean 'novice') and probably fat!>
Dumbass ->
Bret is probably fat. He fits the Masters Fattie profile.>
thanks,>
K. Gringioni.>
I like to describe bike racing to people as a sport where everyone gossips about each others weight like a bunch of fashion models. I'm just as guilty as anyone.
