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Re: Numb fingers

Just zis Guy 2 May 2005 23:52:01
 On Mon, 2 May 2005 15:43:38 -0400, "Ken"
<kcmarcet-dispose-t­rash@hotpop.com> wrote in message
<117d0q4skbl1h8d@co­rp.supernews.com>:
And I am sure it's not from being too cold here in Florida. It seems like>after riding for about 30 minutes I start to get a bit of numbness in my>finger, but if I switch hand position it will go away for a while, and then>come back slightly. I have read that cycling gloves may help this condition.>Is it caused my a pinched nerve and or a pinched blood vessel cutting of the>flow of blood to my fingers?

Usually IME from pressure on the soft tissues. So I find it is worse
with gel grips than with taped handlebars and good quality track
mitts. Of course, these days I have no such problems as I usually
ride a recumbent :-)­

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Claire Petersky 2 May 2005 13:12:42 [ permanent link ]
 "Ken" <kcmarcet-dispose-t­rash@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:117d0q4skbl1h8­d@corp.supernews.com­...> And I am sure it's not from being too cold here in Florida. It seems like> after riding for about 30 minutes I start to get a bit of numbness in my> finger, but if I switch hand position it will go away for a while, and
then> come back slightly. I have read that cycling gloves may help this
condition.> Is it caused my a pinched nerve and or a pinched blood vessel cutting of
flow of blood to my fingers?

Is it just your pinkie, ring and maybe middle fingers? If so, it could be
ulnar nerve neuropathy, popularly called "handlebar palsy". I started to
have problems with this two years ago when training for a double century.

After talking to my doctor, and reading about it (put ulnar nerve or
handlebar palsy in a search engine) and working to counteract it, here's
what I recommend:

o Make sure you have your wrists positioned properly: you always want your
wrists straight and your elbows bent. (When I did water aerobics we called
this "Barbie arms" after the 11.5 inch fashion doll -- you want to have a
loose feeling in your arms, not a stiff one.) Especially check yourself when
you're riding with your hands on the tops of your drop bars. It's especially
important to have this sort of loose feeling in your arms when riding over
bumps -- I know this from riding on the road and going over potholes.

o Make sure your bike fits well. Typical fit problems that can lead you to
lean on your hands with the wrists bent include: pointing the nose of your
saddle down too much, having the seat too high, or having too long of a
stem.

o Make sure you have lots of gel in your gloves. Every time I've used a bad
set of gloves for a while the numbness returns.

o Change your hand position frequently. Aerobars could help with this I
suppose, but just changing from being in the drops, tops, and hoods help.

My doctor also recommended not riding for 6 weeks. I think I lasted two
days.

See: http://www.cptips.c­om/handsyn.htm for a description
http://www.cultv.co­m/music/rssi.htm shows stretches to combat the problem
http://www.hughston­.com/hha/a_15_3_2.ht­m shows how the problem develops from
improper hand positioning.


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Jeff Starr 3 May 2005 07:32:16 [ permanent link ]
 On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:42:42 +0930, "Claire Petersky"
<cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:

o Make sure you have lots of gel in your gloves. Every time I've used a bad>set of gloves for a while the numbness returns.>

Hi Claire, what kind of gloves do you use?

Thank you!


Life is Good!
Jeff
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Claire Petersky 3 May 2005 11:45:54 [ permanent link ]
 
"Geezer Boy" <geezerboy@righther­e.com> wrote in message
news:s8re715v1b0i33­ml5k5591ip9gj94r9ekl­@4ax.com...> On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:42:42 +0930, "Claire Petersky"> <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:>
snip> >
See: http://www.cptips.c­om/handsyn.htm for a description> >http://www.cultv.c­om/music/rssi.htm shows stretches to combat the problem> >http://www.hughsto­n.com/hha/a_15_3_2.h­tm shows how the problem develops
from> >improper hand positioning.>
This is excellent, high-quality information. Thanks for posting this.

You're welcome. This is an on-going issue for me. It only takes going over a
pothole (and the streets are full of them) with my arms not positioned
correctly, and my arm will go totally numb during the night. I have to
constantly remember, "arms bent, wrists straight".


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Claire Petersky 3 May 2005 11:50:30 [ permanent link ]
 "Jeff Starr" <jstarr@animalpc.co­m> wrote in message
news:p­3sd71d87cb21q­5otst1q98cut0q4skro6­@4ax.com...> On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:42:42 +0930, "Claire Petersky"> <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:> >
o Make sure you have lots of gel in your gloves. Every time I've used a
set of gloves for a while the numbness returns.>
Hi Claire, what kind of gloves do you use?

I was using Tricos, but they are simply not durable -- my last pair
disintigrated during STP, and the gel started leaking out on the previous
pair I owned -- and they are not cheap. The trico website
(http://www.tricosp­orts.com/gloves/inde­x.html) shows a new design, so maybe
the new ones would last longer.

Meanwhile, I am considering putting pipe insulation on my handlebars instead
:-p­.


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Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky

Personal page: http://www.geocitie­s.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
http://bookcrossing­.com/referral/Cpeter­sky


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Ken 3 May 2005 15:45:50 [ permanent link ]
 
"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote in message
news:4276d763$0$794­66$14726298@news.sun­site.dk...> "Ken" <kcmarcet-dispose-t­rash@hotpop.com> wrote in message> news:117d0q4skbl1h8­d@corp.supernews.com­...> > And I am sure it's not from being too cold here in Florida. It seems
like> > after riding for about 30 minutes I start to get a bit of numbness in my> > finger, but if I switch hand position it will go away for a while, and> then> > come back slightly. I have read that cycling gloves may help this> condition.> > Is it caused my a pinched nerve and or a pinched blood vessel cutting of> the> > flow of blood to my fingers?>
Is it just your pinkie, ring and maybe middle fingers? If so, it could be> ulnar nerve neuropathy, popularly called "handlebar palsy". I started to> have problems with this two years ago when training for a double century.>
Yes you are right there, the numbness does seem to be worse in those
fingers, and I tend to notice more when I ride my mtb vs when I ride my road
bike and change hand positions often, mtb has only one position for hands.
After talking to my doctor, and reading about it (put ulnar nerve or> handlebar palsy in a search engine) and working to counteract it, here's> what I recommend:>
o Make sure you have your wrists positioned properly: you always want your> wrists straight and your elbows bent. (When I did water aerobics we called> this "Barbie arms" after the 11.5 inch fashion doll -- you want to have a> loose feeling in your arms, not a stiff one.) Especially check yourself
when> you're riding with your hands on the tops of your drop bars. It's
especially> important to have this sort of loose feeling in your arms when riding over> bumps -- I know this from riding on the road and going over potholes.>
o Make sure your bike fits well. Typical fit problems that can lead you to> lean on your hands with the wrists bent include: pointing the nose of
your> saddle down too much, having the seat too high, or having too long of a> stem.>
o Make sure you have lots of gel in your gloves. Every time I've used a
set of gloves for a while the numbness returns.>
o Change your hand position frequently. Aerobars could help with this I> suppose, but just changing from being in the drops, tops, and hoods help.>
My doctor also recommended not riding for 6 weeks. I think I lasted two> days.>
See: http://www.cptips.c­om/handsyn.htm for a description> http://www.cultv.co­m/music/rssi.htm shows stretches to combat the problem> http://www.hughston­.com/hha/a_15_3_2.ht­m shows how the problem develops
from> improper hand positioning.>
-- > Warm Regards,>
Claire Petersky>
Personal page: http://www.geocitie­s.com/cpetersky/> See the books I've set free at:> http://bookcrossing­.com/referral/Cpeter­sky>

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Geezer Boy 3 May 2005 16:24:35 [ permanent link ]
 On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:42:42 +0930, "Claire Petersky"
<cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:

snip>
See: http://www.cptips.c­om/handsyn.htm for a description>http://­www.cultv.com/music/­rssi.htm shows stretches to combat the problem>http://www.­hughston.com/hha/a_1­5_3_2.htm shows how the problem develops from>improper hand positioning.

This is excellent, high-quality information. Thanks for posting this.

Geezer Boy
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Tom Keats 4 May 2005 07:23:58 [ permanent link ]
 In article <427815bf$0$79463$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>,
"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> writes:
Meanwhile, I am considering putting pipe insulation on my handlebars instead>:-p.

Incidentally, a soft, open-ended MTB grip makes a good
garlic peeler. Just stick the clove midway inside the
grip and, with the palm of your hand, briskly roll the
whole works back and forth with on your counter top.
The outer skin on the clove will soon become loose,
and can be easily removed in one piece, without having
to studiously pick at it.

The same thing can be achieved by rolling the clove
between the palms of your hands, but then you'd end
up with garlic-scented hands.


cheers,
Tom

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Mike Latondresse 4 May 2005 21:15:27 [ permanent link ]
 "Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote in
news:427815bf$0$794­63$14726298@news.sun­site.dk:
"Jeff Starr" <jstarr@animalpc.co­m> wrote in message> news:p­3sd71d87cb21q­5otst1q98cut0q4skro6­@4ax.com...>> On Mon, 2 May 2005 18:42:42 +0930, "Claire Petersky">> <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:>> >
o Make sure you have lots of gel in your gloves. Every time I've>> >used a > bad>> >set of gloves for a while the numbness returns.>>
Hi Claire, what kind of gloves do you use?>
I was using Tricos, but they are simply not durable -- my last> pair disintigrated during STP, and the gel started leaking out on> the previous pair I owned -- and they are not cheap. The trico> website (http://www.tricosp­orts.com/gloves/inde­x.html) shows a new> design, so maybe the new ones would last longer.>
Meanwhile, I am considering putting pipe insulation on my> handlebars instead >:-p.>
If you spend much time on the tops you might look at some of the new
bars (the alu versions are less pricey) with the flat top sections
and put some extra padding on that before you wrap them.
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Bob Burns 4 May 2005 23:37:06 [ permanent link ]
 What's the downside?

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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail­.com> wrote in message
news:e8f95d.ml.ln@b­ud.garden.local...> In article <427815bf$0$79463$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>,> "Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> writes:>
Meanwhile, I am considering putting pipe insulation on my handlebars >> instead>>:-p.>
Incidentally, a soft, open-ended MTB grip makes a good> garlic peeler. Just stick the clove midway inside the> grip and, with the palm of your hand, briskly roll the> whole works back and forth with on your counter top.> The outer skin on the clove will soon become loose,> and can be easily removed in one piece, without having> to studiously pick at it.>
The same thing can be achieved by rolling the clove> between the palms of your hands, but then you'd end> up with garlic-scented hands.>
cheers,> Tom>
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