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GYXU > Cycling > Armstrong WILL retire after TdF 26 April 2005 23:37:19

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Armstrong WILL retire after TdF

Wafflycat 26 April 2005 23:37:19
 See

http://today.reuter­s.co.uk/news/newsArt­icle.aspx?type=topNe­ws&storyID=2005-04-1­8T193518Z_01_HOL8704­70_RTRUKOC_0_CYCLING­-ARMSTRONG.xml

"ATLANTA, Georgia (Reuters) - Six-times Tour de France winner Lance
Armstrong
said on Monday he would retire after this year's Tour de France in July.

The 33-year-old American was addressing a news conference.

Armstrong came back from being diagnosed with cancer in 1996 to win a record
six Tour de France titles between 1999 and 2004. Three men -- Jacques
Anquetil (1961-64), Eddy Merckx (1969-72) and Miguel Indurain (1991-95) --
won the event five times."



Cheers, helen s

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Diablo Scott 19 April 2005 01:37:14 permanent link ]
 wafflycat wrote:> See>
Three men -- Jacques> Anquetil (1961-64), Eddy Merckx (1969-72) and Miguel Indurain (1991-95) --> won the event five times.">
They forgot Hinault.


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Zoot Katz 19 April 2005 02:37:19 permanent link ]
 18 Apr 2005 14:02:20 -0700,
<1113858140.386861.­84440@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>, "Maggie"
<lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:
You know what they say.....leave when your a winner to be remembered as>a winner. Get out of the game when you are at the top of your game.>There is nothing sadder than people who keep going when they should>have stopped....

Then too, there are those who are rich enough to quit while everyone
else is trying to catch up and maybe smart enough to get out before
the loopholes slam shut.

http://www.rmtcnet.­com/showpage.asp?sto­ry=45

"LA JOLLA, Calif. -- In the laboratory of the Salk Institute for
Biological Studies is a gray mouse called Lance, so named because he
just goes and goes and goes, like perennial Tour de France champion
Lance Armstrong. He is among dozens of furry, little rodents that were
genetically engineered to run twice as far on a treadmill as normal
mice.
. . . "

Die hard Lance fans may blithely ignore the above innuendo. . . for
awhile longer.
--
zk
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Bill Sornson 19 April 2005 03:40:14 permanent link ]
 Ken wrote:> "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message> news:1113858140.386­861.84440@l41g2000cw­c.googlegroups.com..­.
You know what they say.....leave when your a winner to be remembered>> as a winner. Get out of the game when you are at the top of your>> game. There is nothing sadder than people who keep going when they>> should have stopped....>>
Well there are plenty of those people out there! Like M. Jordan, Wayne> Gretzsky, Mike Tyson etc.

MIKE TYSON?!? The man's flat broke; lost to a total tomato can last fight,
and is coming back for more because he'll be put in jail for tax evasion if
he doesn't cough up some (blood) dough soon. Next stop: circus tent
sideshow (seriously).

Jordan, Elway, Gretzsky, looks like Armstrong, etc. -- you betcha. Tyson?
No way.


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Hueyville 19 April 2005 04:51:59 permanent link ]
 i was at the press conference and was actually able to ask some questions.
i have my first page up on what lance had to say and am working on several
more right now. will have more pages posted in the next few hours.
michael
direct link http://www.coolbicy­cling.com/05tourdege­orgiainterview01.htm­


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Mike Kruger 19 April 2005 06:07:22 permanent link ]
 "Bill Sornson" <nospamsorninospam@­san.rr.comnospam> wrote in
message news:yzX8e.35$JB.0@­tornado.socal.rr.com­...> Ken wrote:> > "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message> >
news:1113858140.386­861.84440@l41g2000cw­c.googlegroups.com..­.>
You know what they say.....leave when your a winner to be
remembered> >> as a winner. Get out of the game when you are at the top
of your> >> game. There is nothing sadder than people who keep going
when they> >> should have stopped....> >>
Well there are plenty of those people out there! Like M.
Jordan, Wayne> > Gretzsky, Mike Tyson etc.>
MIKE TYSON?!? The man's flat broke; lost to a total tomato
can last fight,> and is coming back for more because he'll be put in jail for
tax evasion if> he doesn't cough up some (blood) dough soon. Next stop:
circus tent> sideshow (seriously).>
Jordan, Elway, Gretzsky, looks like Armstrong, etc. -- you
betcha. Tyson?> No way.>
Gordie Howe -- he even played pro hockey with his sons.
If you still enjoy it, and you aren't causing any problems for
anybody else, why not keep playing?
So what if you used to be better, as long as you are still
good enough.

--
Mike Kruger




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Mark Hickey 19 April 2005 17:38:03 permanent link ]
 bbaka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
Lance can wind down and do other things after the TdF. He may not win >this year but I also would not take a bet against him. After bicycling >he could well take up marathon running with his endurance and leg >strength. Triathlon is what I heard he did before the bout with cancer >and if he can build up the arms for swimming he might well be a serious >contender in that sport. 33 years old is not over the hill by a long >shot if you have the motivation.

He could easily go back to triathlon (he was the US Junior Champion at
16). It would be interesting, but it could also provide a lot of
fodder for trigeeks to give roadies a hard time if he didn't dominate.
;-)­

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycle­s.com
Home of the $695 ti frame
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Trg 19 April 2005 19:09:48 permanent link ]
 "Mark Hickey" <mark@habcycles.com­> a йcrit dans le message de news:
rb2a61pm7nv7tks3boc­4r1ido0up3o6plf@4ax.­com...
| bbaka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
|
| >Lance can wind down and do other things after the TdF. He may not win
| >this year but I also would not take a bet against him. After bicycling
| >he could well take up marathon running with his endurance and leg
| >strength. Triathlon is what I heard he did before the bout with cancer
| >and if he can build up the arms for swimming he might well be a serious
| >contender in that sport. 33 years old is not over the hill by a long
| >shot if you have the motivation.
|
| He could easily go back to triathlon (he was the US Junior Champion at
| 16). It would be interesting, but it could also provide a lot of
| fodder for trigeeks to give roadies a hard time if he didn't dominate.
| ;-)­
|
His stated reason for quitting was to spend more time with his children. I
don't think he'll give up the lifestyle of a professional cyclist to embrace
the lifestyle of a professional (insert your sport here).


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Bill Sornson 19 April 2005 19:42:59 permanent link ]
 Maggie wrote:> bbaka wrote:>>>
Anybody remember Joe Namath doing those panty hose commercials?>
Bill Baka>
I remember it. And have you seen him lately? Half the time he is> incoherent. There is nothing as pitiful as a person who won't grow> older with at least a little bit of dignity. Willie Joe was a great> football player in his day. I would like to remember him that way.> Yet when I see him on Television, I see some dirty old man.

Just so you know, Maggie, AFAIK Namath came to terms with his alcoholism
after that humiliating episode on national TV, and has been sober for some
time now (well over a year I think). Booze is an equal opportunity
destroyer, and while I've never been a huge "Broadway Joe" fan, I admire his
courage in facing his problem and, hopefully, changing his life for the
better.

Bill S.


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The Wogster 19 April 2005 20:54:43 permanent link ]
 trg wrote:> "Mark Hickey" <mark@habcycles.com­> a Г©crit dans le message de news: > rb2a61pm7nv7tks3boc­4r1ido0up3o6plf@4ax.­com...> | bbaka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:> |> | >Lance can wind down and do other things after the TdF. He may not win> | >this year but I also would not take a bet against him. After bicycling> | >he could well take up marathon running with his endurance and leg> | >strength. Triathlon is what I heard he did before the bout with cancer> | >and if he can build up the arms for swimming he might well be a serious> | >contender in that sport. 33 years old is not over the hill by a long> | >shot if you have the motivation.> |> | He could easily go back to triathlon (he was the US Junior Champion at> | 16). It would be interesting, but it could also provide a lot of> | fodder for trigeeks to give roadies a hard time if he didn't dominate.> | ;-)­> |> His stated reason for quitting was to spend more time with his children. I > don't think he'll give up the lifestyle of a professional cyclist to embrace > the lifestyle of a professional (insert your sport here). >

He is young enough, and likely wealthy enough, he could do whatever the
heck he wants, going into another sport, unlikely, if he has brains, he
could go to University get a degree in something, and do something
totally different.

The former sports stars you feel sorry for, are the guys, who are too
stupid to do anything else, and stay at it, until they are no longer
wanted in their sport.

W











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Zoot Katz 19 April 2005 20:58:03 permanent link ]
 19 Apr 2005 08:23:45 -0700,
<1113924225.261816.­26740@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>,
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:
Sorry I went off on a rant....but Wacko Jacko is on the news right now>and he is making me nuts.

So shut it off. It is allowed.

People are stupid to complain about the media they wilfully slurp up
while they have the power to change their own habits.
Go ride your bike, read a book, do some push-ups, knit, whatever.
Reject the brain dead programming that's being decided for you by a
pathetic few rich old white guys with their own agenda.

Ask yourself, "what are they _not_ talking about?" and then find out.
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zk
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Neil Brooks 19 April 2005 21:01:22 permanent link ]
 Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com> wrote:
19 Apr 2005 08:23:45 -0700,><1113924225.­261816.26740@l41g200­0cwc.googlegroups.co­m>, >"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:>
Sorry I went off on a rant....but Wacko Jacko is on the news right now>>and he is making me nuts.>
So shut it off. It is allowed.>
People are stupid to complain about the media they wilfully slurp up>while they have the power to change their own habits.>Go ride your bike, read a book, do some push-ups, knit, whatever.>Reject the brain dead programming that's being decided for you by a>pathetic few rich old white guys with their own agenda.>
Ask yourself, "what are they _not_ talking about?" and then find out.

I sum it up by saying, "Don't blame it on supply. Blame it on
demand."

Applies in many arenas.
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Zoot Katz 19 April 2005 21:20:48 permanent link ]
 19 Apr 2005 10:12:29 -0700,
<1113930749.451027.­80720@g14g2000cwa.go­oglegroups.com>,
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:
I have to work for a living, and I can't turn the owners>radio off.

Too bad you can't listen to CBC.

Believe me, Jacko is _not_ news worthy. It's pap and brain douche for
douche brains.
--
zk
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Bbaka 19 April 2005 21:42:50 permanent link ]
 Mark Hickey wrote:> bbaka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:>
Lance can wind down and do other things after the TdF. He may not win >>this year but I also would not take a bet against him. After bicycling >>he could well take up marathon running with his endurance and leg >>strength. Triathlon is what I heard he did before the bout with cancer >>and if he can build up the arms for swimming he might well be a serious >>contender in that sport. 33 years old is not over the hill by a long >>shot if you have the motivation. >
He could easily go back to triathlon (he was the US Junior Champion at> 16). It would be interesting, but it could also provide a lot of> fodder for trigeeks to give roadies a hard time if he didn't dominate.> ;-)­>
Mark Hickey> Habanero Cycles> http://www.habcycle­s.com> Home of the $695 ti frame

It will be interesting either way.
Bill Baka
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Bbaka 19 April 2005 21:58:25 permanent link ]
 Zoot Katz wrote:> 19 Apr 2005 08:23:45 -0700,> <1113924225.261816.­26740@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>, > "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:>
Sorry I went off on a rant....but Wacko Jacko is on the news right now>>and he is making me nuts.>
So shut it off. It is allowed.>
People are stupid to complain about the media they wilfully slurp up> while they have the power to change their own habits.> Go ride your bike, read a book, do some push-ups, knit, whatever.> Reject the brain dead programming that's being decided for you by a> pathetic few rich old white guys with their own agenda.>
Ask yourself, "what are they _not_ talking about?" and then find out.

That you got right. I don't watch much besides the weather report lately
because I am sick of the same old news. Jackson again, one of our
soldiers killed in Iraq, (again and again), or some local gang bust.
Give me Star Trek and let me zone out.
Bill Baka

The TdF is the only thing all year I watch intently. I don't even waste
time on the Super Bowl.
Bill Baka
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Ken 19 April 2005 22:13:12 permanent link ]
 
"bbaka" <bbaka@syix.com> wrote in message
news:1113933498.704­160@news01.syix.com.­..> Zoot Katz wrote:> > 19 Apr 2005 08:23:45 -0700,> > <1113924225.261816.­26740@l41g2000cwc.go­oglegroups.com>,> > "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:> >
Sorry I went off on a rant....but Wacko Jacko is on the news right now> >>and he is making me nuts.> >
So shut it off. It is allowed.> >
People are stupid to complain about the media they wilfully slurp up> > while they have the power to change their own habits.> > Go ride your bike, read a book, do some push-ups, knit, whatever.> > Reject the brain dead programming that's being decided for you by a> > pathetic few rich old white guys with their own agenda.> >
Ask yourself, "what are they _not_ talking about?" and then find out.>
That you got right. I don't watch much besides the weather report lately> because I am sick of the same old news. Jackson again, one of our> soldiers killed in Iraq, (again and again), or some local gang bust.> Give me Star Trek and let me zone out.> Bill Baka>
"Beam him up Scotty!"
Ken
The TdF is the only thing all year I watch intently. I don't even waste> time on the Super Bowl.> Bill Baka

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Jeff Starr 20 April 2005 03:27:27 permanent link ]
 On 19 Apr 2005 08:23:45 -0700, "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com>
wrote:

Everyone yells at me when I talk about age, but there is something to>be said about growing older with a little class. Trying to act like a>kid when you are not a kid, makes a person look like a fool.>

Geez Maggie, the above sounds like a description of your good buddy
little bill.

As to Lance, I saw him this morning on The Today Show. The guy is a
class act. They asked him if he thought the Europeans would make a
special trip, with the kids, to have a chance at seeing the "great
Lance Armstrong". He smiled, maybe chuckled and said, that would be a
first, or something to that effect. I found it very amusing.

And as usual, he was asked about doping.



Life is Good!
Jeff
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Mark Hickey 20 April 2005 06:10:44 permanent link ]
 The Wogster <wogsterca@yahoo.ca­> wrote:
trg wrote:>> "Mark Hickey" <mark@habcycles.com­> a Г©crit dans le message de news:
| He could easily go back to triathlon (he was the US Junior Champion at>> | 16). It would be interesting, but it could also provide a lot of>> | fodder for trigeeks to give roadies a hard time if he didn't dominate.>> | ;-)­>> |>> His stated reason for quitting was to spend more time with his children. I >> don't think he'll give up the lifestyle of a professional cyclist to embrace >> the lifestyle of a professional (insert your sport here). >
He is young enough, and likely wealthy enough, he could do whatever the >heck he wants, going into another sport, unlikely, if he has brains, he >could go to University get a degree in something, and do something >totally different.

I still think it's possible. The problem with pro cycling is that
you're constantly moving around, and don't really have any family time
for months at a time. He could work training for triathlon (as
time-consuming as that is) into a schedule that lets him spend plenty
of time with his kids. He'd be racing a LOT less, too - and the races
are one-day events.

At the very least I hope he goes for the hour record.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycle­s.com
Home of the $695 ti frame
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Bbaka 20 April 2005 09:00:25 permanent link ]
 Jeff Starr wrote:> On 19 Apr 2005 08:23:45 -0700, "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com>> wrote:>
Everyone yells at me when I talk about age, but there is something to>>be said about growing older with a little class. Trying to act like a>>kid when you are not a kid, makes a person look like a fool.>>
Geez Maggie, the above sounds like a description of your good buddy> little bill.

Wow, Big Jeff, who will die dignified in his rocking chair at 59.
Dignified, but still dead from 'acting' his age. I will take the
alternative and let the thirty somethings think I am the one who is crazy.>
As to Lance, I saw him this morning on The Today Show. The guy is a> class act. They asked him if he thought the Europeans would make a> special trip, with the kids, to have a chance at seeing the "great> Lance Armstrong". He smiled, maybe chuckled and said, that would be a> first, or something to that effect. I found it very amusing.

Lance does try to come off humble, but how can he really, with his
remarkable record.>
And as usual, he was asked about doping.

Maybe he should light up a fake joint for them.
Bill Baka>
Life is Good!> Jeff

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Bbaka 20 April 2005 09:03:13 permanent link ]
 Mark Hickey wrote:> The Wogster <wogsterca@yahoo.ca­> wrote:>
trg wrote:>>
"Mark Hickey" <mark@habcycles.com­> a Г©crit dans le message de news: >
| He could easily go back to triathlon (he was the US Junior Champion at>>>| 16). It would be interesting, but it could also provide a lot of>>>| fodder for trigeeks to give roadies a hard time if he didn't dominate.>>>| ;-)­>>>|>>>His stated reason for quitting was to spend more time with his children. I >>>don't think he'll give up the lifestyle of a professional cyclist to embrace >>>the lifestyle of a professional (insert your sport here). >>
He is young enough, and likely wealthy enough, he could do whatever the >>heck he wants, going into another sport, unlikely, if he has brains, he >>could go to University get a degree in something, and do something >>totally different.>
I still think it's possible. The problem with pro cycling is that> you're constantly moving around, and don't really have any family time> for months at a time. He could work training for triathlon (as> time-consuming as that is) into a schedule that lets him spend plenty> of time with his kids. He'd be racing a LOT less, too - and the races> are one-day events.>
At the very least I hope he goes for the hour record.

The last I heard it was right at 35 MPH. That is fast to hold for a full
hour, and no peloton for support. If he did break that record on top of
the TdF record I don't think it would ever be challenged.
Bill Baka>
Mark Hickey> Habanero Cycles> http://www.habcycle­s.com> Home of the $695 ti frame
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Mike Latondresse 21 April 2005 06:53:47 permanent link ]
 bbaka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote in
news:1113973218.436­522@news01.syix.com:­
Lance does try to come off humble, but how can he really, with his> remarkable record.

Hey Bill he should take lessons from you.
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Walter Mitty 21 April 2005 18:54:02 permanent link ]
 Bob wrote:> sports as golf, has age divisions simply because age matters.> 2- Crash at even a modest 20 mph and then explain how bicycle racing at> *any* level is a "non-contact" sport.

Thats like saying that if you crash your car through a barrier and into
a lake then car racing is a marine spot.

Cycling is not a contact sport : end of story.
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Zoot Katz 21 April 2005 22:40:35 permanent link ]
 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:54:02 +0200, <3cpt3vF6pueavU2@un­i-berlin.de>,
Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com­> wrote:
Cycling is not a contact sport : end of story.

Cycling is far more than a mere sport. GET THAT STRAIGHT!

Cycle racing is a sport that involves occasional body contact and if
you don't believe that you're a deluding yourself.

Cycle polo is a game that involves some body contact though
"ride-offs" are generally proscribed by the rules.
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Zoot Katz 22 April 2005 06:36:41 permanent link ]
 21 Apr 2005 19:20:43 -0700,
<1114136443.106600.­149920@z14g2000cwz.g­ooglegroups.com>,
"Bob" <hunrobe@aol.com> wrote:
Bicycle racing is *not* a non-contact sport but all cycling is not>bicycle racing : end of story.

How do you feel about tall-bike jousting?
http://dclxvi.org/c­hunk/operations/tour­nament2004/
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zk
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Tom Keats 26 April 2005 06:15:39 permanent link ]
 In article <9dsf61dbo288ahqp2l­qd53cf8mn8srv42p@4ax­.com>,
Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com> writes:
Cycle polo is a game that involves some body contact though> "ride-offs" are generally proscribed by the rules.

I'd like to see, or perhaps even participate in, a bicycle
version of buzkashi. Only instead of using a goat carcass,
using a plushie 'Tux' (the Linux mascot penguin.)

Besides the sacrilegious thing, a plushie 'Chuck' (the BSD
mascot) has too many handhold-y parts to be sporting. The
penguin, with its bowling pin shape and sparsity of appendages,
would do nicely, though.

http://www.unixprog­ram.com/images/Chuck­VsTux.jpg


cheers,
Tom

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Dane Jackson 26 April 2005 23:37:19 permanent link ]
 Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail­.com> wrote:> In article <9dsf61dbo288ahqp2l­qd53cf8mn8srv42p@4ax­.com>,> Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com> writes:>
Cycle polo is a game that involves some body contact though>> "ride-offs" are generally proscribed by the rules.>
I'd like to see, or perhaps even participate in, a bicycle> version of buzkashi. Only instead of using a goat carcass,> using a plushie 'Tux' (the Linux mascot penguin.)>
Besides the sacrilegious thing, a plushie 'Chuck' (the BSD> mascot) has too many handhold-y parts to be sporting. The> penguin, with its bowling pin shape and sparsity of appendages,> would do nicely, though.>

Too bad Microsoft doesn't have any plush mascots available, then
I might be more tempted to join in. The butterfly would be no
good, given the wings and legs. Clippy might do a better job
though...

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Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
Aleph-null bottles of beer on the wall,
Aleph-null bottles of beer,
You take one down, and pass it around,
Aleph-null bottles of beer on the wall.
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