"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112795422.810383.21860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> As I was riding to work this morning, I saw the strangest thing for my> town. I saw a guy on his bike dressed like Lance Armstrong. He had the> helmet thing going and the spandex pants and the colorful jacket...VERY> COLORFUL JACKET..He looked like he was riding in the Tour de France.>
Now maybe in other areas this is something common, but in my town it is> just strange. People were slowing down to look at him. We rarely see> men in spandex or lycra, or whatever you call it around the Essex> County area of Jersey. We have plenty of motorcycles and sports cars,> but men on bikes wearing lyra pants and wearing a pink, black and> yellow top is very rare.
I wish the bright colors would get cars to slow down here, but alas, they are too commonplace...
I'm not saying people do not ride bikes in my town, but it's usually> older people wearing regular clothes. Or kids on their BMX bikes> running you over.>
But then I started wondering why he was dressed like that. He was> riding around town. I would think you dress like that for a long ride> or a century or something.
One of my tennis ladies is from Liverpool. One Monday morning we were discussing our weekends and she mentioned on Sunday she stopped by the village of Los Altos (my home town) to have coffee with a friend. She was stunned by the myriad of folks in lycra at the Peets and Starbucks and other espresso shops. "They were all dressed in these skin tight outfits with shoes that made them walk funny!" She was going on and on about these folks, not making fun, just amazed as she hadn't seen anything like this, and mentioned in passing that it was so hard to park they almost missed this and went to the next Starbucks down the expressway. Where she would have ran into me, and my biking crowd, dressed just like that.
The interesting thing is, I don't get stared at the in bike outfits, there are many, many cyclists here. I do get started at in the tennis skirts.
On 6 Apr 2005 06:50:22 -0700, "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote:
As I was riding to work this morning, I saw the strangest thing for my>town. I saw a guy on his bike dressed like Lance Armstrong. He had the>helmet thing going and the spandex pants and the colorful jacket...VERY>COLORFUL JACKET..He looked like he was riding in the Tour de France.>
Now maybe in other areas this is something common, but in my town it is>just strange. People were slowing down to look at him. We rarely see>men in spandex or lycra, or whatever you call it around the Essex>County area of Jersey. We have plenty of motorcycles and sports cars,>but men on bikes wearing lyra pants and wearing a pink, black and>yellow top is very rare.>
I'm not saying people do not ride bikes in my town, but it's usually>older people wearing regular clothes. Or kids on their BMX bikes>running you over.>
But then I started wondering why he was dressed like that. He was>riding around town. I would think you dress like that for a long ride>or a century or something.>
If you are just going to take your bike to work, or take a morning>ride, do you really do that Lance Armstrong look? I am not trying to>offend anyone, I am just trying to understand the mentality of dressing>like that.>
I have no clue how I am going to dress on my first charity ride, but I>have a feeling I will never dress like that. I could be wrong though.>I could turn into Fabrizio. Ya never know.>
All Good Things,>Maggie. Quizzical about Faux Lance>
PS. I didn't even notice his bike, his clothes were so unusual for>around here. I am dying to find out why he rides dressed like a Euro>Pro. I hope I see him again. I have to find out his story. He must>have one. I know he must have one. You could get killed in Essex>County if you are male and wear lycra/spandex. NOW DON'T GET OFFENDED>or DEFENSIVE.
Sheesh.
Don't you get it. You live in a neighborhood of very narrow, bigoted and xenophobic outlook. We ALL know that. We all also know that you are as open and fair minded as anyone from such a neighborhood could possibly be. So understand, I mean this by way of explanation - but I'm trying to explain water to the fish.
The pro cycling kit is _normal_. There isn't an explanation. Nor is one needed. You might as well ask the lumberjack "what's up with that flannel shirt and those spikey boots?"
Got it, it's the spandex that is normal and the hateful thug bigots in your neighborhood who are abnormal. The guy on the bike is dressed appropriately as is the guy in the shin-length guido coat. One is dressed for his normal activity of cycling the other is dressed for his daily routine of illegally concealing arms and threatening shop-keepers.
I'd like to hope that even Jersey is better than it's stereotype of being populated by losers with nothing better to do than hang out on street corners looking for something that wasn't born within three blocks to beat the hell out of. You aren't helping.
That cycling uniform evolved in the same way that every sport uniform developed - over a century of trial and error and meeting the needs of the environment and activity. Go ask a baseball player why he wears spandex.
Just in case you weren't sufficiently freaked out of your Joisey outlook, odds are his legs were shaved!!!!!
Still, as a lifelong utility cyclist who's never raced or been a club>member, I'm baffled by riders who dress up in the regalia of teams they>don't belong to. It's one thing to show up for a softball game in a>Phillies t-shirt; showing up in a replica Phillies uniform would be a>bit much. When I see guys on club rides wearing USPS or Phonak gear, it>makes me wonder.
Very valid, but . . .
When Canari has their annual warehouse sale, 40 minutes from my house, and jerseys are three for ten bucks . . . I don't care if they have a team name, the name of a charity ride that I didn't do, or a bullseye emblazoned on the back just to tempt passing motorists . . . I'm wearing 'em!
"RonSonic" <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:aju751hn1ja7n8r0p12e3c3sd0upc1kvoh@4ax.com...> On 6 Apr 2005 06:50:22 -0700, "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote:>
As I was riding to work this morning, I saw the strangest thing for my> >town. I saw a guy on his bike dressed like Lance Armstrong. He had the> >helmet thing going and the spandex pants and the colorful jacket...VERY> >COLORFUL JACKET..He looked like he was riding in the Tour de France.> >
Now maybe in other areas this is something common, but in my town it is> >just strange. People were slowing down to look at him. We rarely see> >men in spandex or lycra, or whatever you call it around the Essex> >County area of Jersey. We have plenty of motorcycles and sports cars,> >but men on bikes wearing lyra pants and wearing a pink, black and> >yellow top is very rare.> >
I'm not saying people do not ride bikes in my town, but it's usually> >older people wearing regular clothes. Or kids on their BMX bikes> >running you over.> >
But then I started wondering why he was dressed like that. He was> >riding around town. I would think you dress like that for a long ride> >or a century or something.> >
If you are just going to take your bike to work, or take a morning> >ride, do you really do that Lance Armstrong look? I am not trying to> >offend anyone, I am just trying to understand the mentality of dressing> >like that.> >
I have no clue how I am going to dress on my first charity ride, but I> >have a feeling I will never dress like that. I could be wrong though.> >I could turn into Fabrizio. Ya never know.> >
All Good Things,> >Maggie. Quizzical about Faux Lance> >
PS. I didn't even notice his bike, his clothes were so unusual for> >around here. I am dying to find out why he rides dressed like a Euro> >Pro. I hope I see him again. I have to find out his story. He must> >have one. I know he must have one. You could get killed in Essex> >County if you are male and wear lycra/spandex. NOW DON'T GET OFFENDED> >or DEFENSIVE.>
Sheesh.>
Don't you get it. You live in a neighborhood of very narrow, bigoted and> xenophobic outlook. We ALL know that. We all also know that you are as
open and> fair minded as anyone from such a neighborhood could possibly be. So understand,> I mean this by way of explanation - but I'm trying to explain water to the fish.>
The pro cycling kit is _normal_. There isn't an explanation. Nor is one
needed.> You might as well ask the lumberjack "what's up with that flannel shirt
those spikey boots?">
Got it, it's the spandex that is normal and the hateful thug bigots in
your> neighborhood who are abnormal. The guy on the bike is dressed appropriately as> is the guy in the shin-length guido coat. One is dressed for his normal> activity of cycling the other is dressed for his daily routine of illegally> concealing arms and threatening shop-keepers.>
I'd like to hope that even Jersey is better than it's stereotype of being> populated by losers with nothing better to do than hang out on street
corners> looking for something that wasn't born within three blocks to beat the hell out> of. You aren't helping.>
That cycling uniform evolved in the same way that every sport uniform
developed> - over a century of trial and error and meeting the needs of the environment and> activity. Go ask a baseball player why he wears spandex.>
Just in case you weren't sufficiently freaked out of your Joisey outlook,
odds> are his legs were shaved!!!!! >
Ron
ROFLMAO!!!
After reading Maggie's odd post, I was thinking of replying, but you've hit the nail on the head. Well done.
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112805978.893671.254310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>
GaryG wrote:> > ROFLMAO!!!> >
After reading Maggie's odd post, I was thinking of replying, but> you've hit> > the nail on the head. Well done.> >
Which odd post. There have been many. Be specific. I take pride in> my odd posts. I need to keep them organized. Which odd post is it you> speak of sir?
The one that started this thread, in which you reported seeing a cyclist, dressed in (gasp) cycling-specific clothing!
GG
Gosh I am sorry I saw Mr. Spandex this morning. If he rides past me> tomorrow, I am going to stop him and have a discussion with him. AND> YOU KNOW I WILL DO IT. If I am wrong about him, I will apologize.> All good things,> Maggie.>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112795422.810383.21860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
PS. I didn't even notice his bike, his clothes were so unusual for> around here. I am dying to find out why he rides dressed like a Euro> Pro. I hope I see him again. I have to find out his story. He must> have one. I know he must have one. You could get killed in Essex> County if you are male and wear lycra/spandex. NOW DON'T GET OFFENDED> or DEFENSIVE.>
heaven forbid someone be an individual where you live, Maggie
I *always* wear a pair of Lycra cycle shorts under my black RonHill Bikesters - they look like relatively close-fitting black Lycra pants. I wear a *bright* top - often a fluorescent yellow top. Why?
1. Bright colours get you noticed - I want to be *visible* in traffic - not give some moron behind the wheel of a car the chance to do a SMIDSY (Sorry, mate, I didn't see you).
2. Lycra serves a valid purpose when cycling - the moves & stretches so it doesn't end up rubbing the skin and causing pain and soreness in delicate places. Also - it you come off the bike it helps minimise road rash as it takes the brunt of the wear as opposed to the skin. I do beleive we've had a long thread on this before, Maggie.
3. If I rode somewhere and was likely to be killed due to my choice of attire, male or female, I retain the right to be offended by that
Maggie wrote: :: GaryG wrote: ::: ROFLMAO!!! ::: ::: After reading Maggie's odd post, I was thinking of replying, but ::: you've hit the nail on the head. Well done. ::: ::: GG :: :: Which odd post. There have been many. Be specific. I take pride in :: my odd posts. I need to keep them organized. Which odd post is it :: you speak of sir? :: Gosh I am sorry I saw Mr. Spandex this morning. If he rides past me :: tomorrow, I am going to stop him and have a discussion with him. :: AND YOU KNOW I WILL DO IT. If I am wrong about him, I will :: apologize. All good things,
Neil Brooks wrote: :: "rdclark" <rdclark2@comcast.net> wrote: :: ::: Still, as a lifelong utility cyclist who's never raced or been a ::: club member, I'm baffled by riders who dress up in the regalia of ::: teams they don't belong to. It's one thing to show up for a ::: softball game in a Phillies t-shirt; showing up in a replica ::: Phillies uniform would be a bit much. When I see guys on club rides ::: wearing USPS or Phonak gear, it makes me wonder. :: :: Very valid, but . . . :: :: When Canari has their annual warehouse sale, 40 minutes from my :: house, and jerseys are three for ten bucks . . . I don't care if :: they have a team name, the name of a charity ride that I didn't do, :: or a bullseye emblazoned on the back just to tempt passing motorists :: . . . I'm wearing 'em!
:: PS. I didn't even notice his bike, his clothes were so unusual for :: around here. I am dying to find out why he rides dressed like a Euro :: Pro. I hope I see him again. I have to find out his story. He must :: have one. I know he must have one. You could get killed in Essex :: County if you are male and wear lycra/spandex. NOW DON'T GET :: OFFENDED or DEFENSIVE.
Reason 1: when racing, post race a massage is great for getting the excess >lactic acid out of the muscles. Massage oil is much easier to apply to a >hair-free leg. I know, I'm "team masseuse" >
Reason 2: If you come off, and skin abrades against tarmac, it's much easier >to clean the wound of grit & dirt if the leg is hair-free. It also heals >easier with less chance of going septic through hair trapping dirt in the >wound.
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:15:06 GMT, RonSonic <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
PS. I didn't even notice his bike, his clothes were so unusual for>>around here. I am dying to find out why he rides dressed like a Euro>>Pro. I hope I see him again. I have to find out his story. He must>>have one. I know he must have one. You could get killed in Essex>>County if you are male and wear lycra/spandex. NOW DON'T GET OFFENDED>>or DEFENSIVE.>
Sheesh.>
Don't you get it. You live in a neighborhood of very narrow, bigoted and>xenophobic outlook. We ALL know that. We all also know that you are as open and>fair minded as anyone from such a neighborhood could possibly be. So understand,>I mean this by way of explanation - but I'm trying to explain water to the fish.
So if a lady from the 50s style in spandex pedal pusher pants and spandex off-shoulder top were to suddenly appear on the streets of Essex would she be safe?
So if a lady from the 50s style in spandex pedal pusher pants and> spandex off-shoulder top were to suddenly appear on the streets of> Essex would she be safe?>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112795422.810383.21860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> As I was riding to work this morning, I saw the strangest thing for my> town. I saw a guy on his bike dressed like Lance Armstrong. He had the> helmet thing going and the spandex pants and the colorful jacket...VERY> COLORFUL JACKET..He looked like he was riding in the Tour de France.>
Now maybe in other areas this is something common, but in my town it is> just strange. People were slowing down to look at him. We rarely see> men in spandex or lycra, or whatever you call it around the Essex> County area of Jersey. We have plenty of motorcycles and sports cars,> but men on bikes wearing lyra pants and wearing a pink, black and> yellow top is very rare.>
I'm not saying people do not ride bikes in my town, but it's usually> older people wearing regular clothes. Or kids on their BMX bikes> running you over.>
But then I started wondering why he was dressed like that. He was> riding around town. I would think you dress like that for a long ride> or a century or something.>
If you are just going to take your bike to work, or take a morning> ride, do you really do that Lance Armstrong look? I am not trying to> offend anyone, I am just trying to understand the mentality of dressing> like that.>
I have no clue how I am going to dress on my first charity ride, but I> have a feeling I will never dress like that. I could be wrong though.> I could turn into Fabrizio. Ya never know.>
All Good Things,> Maggie. Quizzical about Faux Lance>
PS. I didn't even notice his bike, his clothes were so unusual for> around here. I am dying to find out why he rides dressed like a Euro> Pro. I hope I see him again. I have to find out his story. He must> have one. I know he must have one. You could get killed in Essex> County if you are male and wear lycra/spandex. NOW DON'T GET OFFENDED> or DEFENSIVE.>
Maggie, Maggie, Maggie....here we go again about the clothes. You don't know how far that rider was going, how fast or for how long and how many thousands of miles he does it in a year. Remember, the clothes are work clothes....once you understand the work, you'll understand the clothes. Don't get wrapped around the axel over it. Just ride your bike as much as you can. Enjoy your charity ride. Good luck, Mags!
Neil Brooks wrote:>>> "Bill H." <billjitsu@charter.net> wrote:>>>
It actually doesn't matter what he wrote (no offense). It's just>>> important to note that he quoted appropriately.>>>
Bill Sornson: cleaning up Usenet . . . one poster at a time >>
Oh-oh. I see his e-mail uses "billjitsu", so I'd better go easy on>> him. Post however the hell you want, Bill!>
Hehe...the 'billjitsu' handle is something I acquired a long time ago> in a shirt-ninja ping pong tournament in which I was a participant.> Yes, it really IS as geeky as it sounds. See below:>
Now picture a group of ISP employees dressed up like that, playing a> ping pong tournament. Yeah, I'm a geek. In fact, I started cycling> just for the fashion edge it would give me.
: : Don't forget the title of this thread: "Something *strange* in my town". : : She must really live in an impoverished cultural backwater if she finds it : "strange" that someone would be riding a bike through town at 7:30 am, while : wearing cycling-appropriate clothing. : : And she must be clueless (or, a troll), if she doesn't think posting about : her "strange" sighting won't generate some controversy in a cycling : newsgroup. : : GG : I think the crux of the matter is that she considers herself and her ideas as normal for an entire population and she is looking for validation of those opinions here---in a cycling newsgroup! Then, she is astonished when other posters do not agree with her. It has happened over and over. She doesn't mean ill; she's just led a "sheltered" life---sheltered from athletics and apparently anything that isn't "normal" for those of her particular upbringing and is approaching new ideas with a "Well, I never!" attitude. I have seen the same thing in my mother and her friends. I call it "small town syndrome".
:: I'm surprised you haven't seen anyone wearing spandex and cycling :: clothing before. I've seen it in California, New York, and the :: Midwest (all places I've lived). It's everywhere! There's nothing :: wrong with not having seen it, but it's pretty common among serious :: road cyclists, which are in all 50 states.
I note that before I started cycling I never noticed all of the cyclist around where I live. One reason may be that I would rarely be up and about early in the am where they would be (I'd be somewhere eating breakfast). the other may be that I just never stopped to think about them, but I kinda doubt that.
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112814449.505267.149650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>
Pat wrote:> > :> > : Don't forget the title of this thread: "Something *strange* in my> town".> > :> > : She must really live in an impoverished cultural backwater if she> finds it> > : "strange" that someone would be riding a bike through town at 7:30> am,> > while> > : wearing cycling-appropriate clothing.> > :> > : And she must be clueless (or, a troll), if she doesn't think> posting about> > : her "strange" sighting won't generate some controversy in a cycling> > : newsgroup.> > :> > : GG> > :> > I think the crux of the matter is that she considers herself and her> ideas> > as normal for an entire population and she is looking for validation> of> > those opinions here---in a cycling newsgroup! Then, she is> astonished when> > other posters do not agree with her. It has happened over and over.> She> > doesn't mean ill; she's just led a "sheltered" life---sheltered from> > athletics and apparently anything that isn't "normal" for those of> her> > particular upbringing and is approaching new ideas with a "Well, I> never!"> > attitude. I have seen the same thing in my mother and her friends. I> call it> > "small town syndrome".> >
Pat in TX> > :>
Well I never!!!! I guess I have just been diagnosed. "I have small> town syndrome". Half the time I am being sarcastic, and the post is> taken so seriously it amazes me.>
You called it baby. You found me out. I am exposed for the narrow> minded, unathletic, sheltered serial poster that I am. I should start> hanging out with your mother. (I bet she is sweet)>
Now let me go into the bathroom and have a good cry. We who come from> sheltered environments can't take too much of this you know. We can> snap easily. You really got down to the Crux of the matter. What was> the crux, I forgot? Oh yea. LYCRA!!!!!!!! Or was it MEN IN> LYCRA....or was it alien abductions in Essex County. No, I think it was> WHY CYCLISTS GET BIKINI WAXES.>
Maggie...the sheltered.
If you consider it "strange" that someone would be riding a bike in your town at 7:30 am, while wearing cycling-specific clothing...then, yes, you do have "small town syndrome". Your town sounds like a real cultural backwater if this qualifies as "strange".
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112817094.371718.204170@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I did not say he wore cycling clothes.....I said he looked like Lance> Armstrong in the Tour de France.
Which are cycling clothes
Not something I see everyday around> here. It just escalated from there. He was dressed in a black, pink> and purple jersey, lycra/spandex pants, the yellow helmet you always> see Lance wearing, and bicycle shoes. It wasn't average cycling> clothes. He looked like he was doing a major world competition. Maybe> I am just too expressive with words to try to post. I need to buy the> IMODIUMS or stop posting.> IMODIUMS was a JOKE!!!! Just to clarify.> Maggie. The Ignorant.>
Again - so what if he was wearing sky blue pink stripes with orange dots The bit of your original post that did come across as offensive, to me, and apparently to others to, was the questioning of the mental attitude of someone wearing bright cycling clothes followed by "You could get killed in Essex County if you are male and wear lycra/spandex. NOW DON'T GET OFFENDED or DEFENSIVE." It did come across as narrow-minded and bigotted.
:: I'm surprised you haven't seen anyone wearing spandex and cycling>:: clothing before. I've seen it in California, New York, and the>:: Midwest (all places I've lived). It's everywhere! There's nothing>:: wrong with not having seen it, but it's pretty common among serious>:: road cyclists, which are in all 50 states.>
I note that before I started cycling I never noticed all of the cyclist>around where I live. One reason may be that I would rarely be up and about>early in the am where they would be (I'd be somewhere eating breakfast).>the other may be that I just never stopped to think about them, but I kinda>doubt that.
The first day that you buy a [insert color] [insert make of car] [insert model of car] (e.g., white Honda Civic), you notice that the *whole world* seems to drive one, too....
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:20:09 GMT, Neil Brooks <Neil0502@yahoo.com> wrote:
"wafflycat" <wafflesATv21netDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:>
Husband & son shave their legs.>>
Reason 1: when racing, post race a massage is great for getting the excess >>lactic acid out of the muscles. Massage oil is much easier to apply to a >>hair-free leg. I know, I'm "team masseuse" >>
Reason 2: If you come off, and skin abrades against tarmac, it's much easier >>to clean the wound of grit & dirt if the leg is hair-free. It also heals >>easier with less chance of going septic through hair trapping dirt in the >>wound.>
Fabrizio Mazzoleni 7 April 2005 04:36:33 [ permanent link ]
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112795422.810383.21860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> As I was riding to work this morning, I saw the strangest thing for my> town. I saw a guy on his bike dressed like Lance Armstrong. He had the> helmet thing going and the spandex pants and the colorful jacket...VERY> COLORFUL JACKET..
Maggie, the team kit for Lance's Discovery Channel isn't really what you would call ' very colorful '. His team kit is really just white front/ back with light blue side panels with a blue band running across. A real step down from the USPS team kit.
Are you sure it wasn't a Euro based team kit the guy was wearing?
Fabrizio Mazzoleni 7 April 2005 04:45:18 [ permanent link ]
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112805731.847891.203270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> keepers. I keep saying I live in small town suburia in a rather> sheltered town. IT'S JUST NOT USED TO SPANDEX ON MEN. GEEEESSSHHHHH>
Nonsense.
Real cyclists train in rural areas all the time. You will see cyclists in full kit everywhere. Our long training rides take us through all kinds of hick towns. We don't care about the type of people that live there, they just get in our way.
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112805731.847891.203270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>> keepers. I keep saying I live in small town suburia in a rather>> sheltered town. IT'S JUST NOT USED TO SPANDEX ON MEN. GEEEESSSHHHHH>>
Nonsense.
Real cyclists train in rural areas all the time. You will>see cyclists in full kit everywhere. Our long training rides>take us through all kinds of hick towns. We don't care>about the type of people that live there, they just get in>our way.
The people you know are trailer park.
Ah, it's good to see you back and in form, Fabs! Us people in hick towns in your way are just riding, not training. And we mostly wear black spandex, since no one will sponsor us, or do our laundry.
: : Ah, it's good to see you back and in form, Fabs! : Us people in hick towns in your way are just riding, not training. And we : mostly wear black spandex, since no one will sponsor us, or do our : laundry. : : -- : mac the naпf
: re: your reaction : The only thing "strange" going on here is your reaction to seeing a cyclist : engaged in the act of cycling, in an appropriate manner, at an appropriate : time, and in appropriate clothing. : : GG
No, that's not the "only thing" strange. You have to include her belief that she would report such a sight to a cycling newsgroup and have anyone (or everyone) agree with her that the cyclist was the strange one.
: Maggie, the team kit for Lance's Discovery Channel isn't really what : you would call ' very colorful '. His team kit is really just white front/ : back with light blue side panels with a blue band running across. A real : step down from the USPS team kit. : : Are you sure it wasn't a Euro based team kit the guy was wearing?
Hey, Fabs, I saw the Discovery Channel jersey today in the LBS. The front isn't white, it's a gray color made to look like reptile scales.
Maggie <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote:> Pat wrote:>> :>> : Don't forget the title of this thread: "Something *strange* in my> town".>> :>> : She must really live in an impoverished cultural backwater if she> finds it>> : "strange" that someone would be riding a bike through town at 7:30> am,>> while>> : wearing cycling-appropriate clothing.>> :>> : And she must be clueless (or, a troll), if she doesn't think> posting about>> : her "strange" sighting won't generate some controversy in a cycling>> : newsgroup.>> :>> : GG>> :>> I think the crux of the matter is that she considers herself and her> ideas>> as normal for an entire population and she is looking for validation> of>> those opinions here---in a cycling newsgroup! Then, she is> astonished when>> other posters do not agree with her. It has happened over and over.> She>> doesn't mean ill; she's just led a "sheltered" life---sheltered from>> athletics and apparently anything that isn't "normal" for those of> her>> particular upbringing and is approaching new ideas with a "Well, I> never!">> attitude. I have seen the same thing in my mother and her friends. I> call it>> "small town syndrome".>>
Pat in TX>> :>
Well I never!!!! I guess I have just been diagnosed. "I have small> town syndrome". Half the time I am being sarcastic, and the post is> taken so seriously it amazes me.>
You called it baby. You found me out. I am exposed for the narrow> minded, unathletic, sheltered serial poster that I am. I should start> hanging out with your mother. (I bet she is sweet)>
Now let me go into the bathroom and have a good cry. We who come from> sheltered environments can't take too much of this you know. We can> snap easily. You really got down to the Crux of the matter. What was> the crux, I forgot? Oh yea. LYCRA!!!!!!!! Or was it MEN IN> LYCRA....or was it alien abductions in Essex County. No, I think it> was WHY CYCLISTS GET BIKINI WAXES.>
Maggie...the sheltered.
I think you just like to write and you make sh*t like this up just to do it.
Well I have to disagree with Jobst on this one. Yours truly being masseuse to aching legs of husband & son, I have first hand experience of massage of hairy & non-hairy legs. Non-hairy is *much easier*.
jj wrote: :: On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:57:41 -0400, "Roger Zoul" :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: :: ::: jj <jet@jetstream.net> wrote: :::: My favorite (wonder girl): :::: http://www.buffalo2step.com/Paranormal2004/twilight/images/IMG_0398.jpg ::: ::: Oh boy! Wonder girl. I'd love to get dropped by her! :: :: I sent you an email with a .gif. G-rated. ;-D
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in message news:1112883166.117481.206490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>
Pat wrote:> > : re: your reaction> > : The only thing "strange" going on here is your reaction to seeing a> > cyclist> > : engaged in the act of cycling, in an appropriate manner, at an> appropriate> > : time, and in appropriate clothing.> > :> > : GG> >
No, that's not the "only thing" strange. You have to include her> belief that> > she would report such a sight to a cycling newsgroup and have anyone> (or> > everyone) agree with her that the cyclist was the strange one.> >
Pat in TX> > :> > :>
I apologized for yesterday....but I guess that does not mean a thing. I> thought it would. I guess I was wrong. I guess it's much more fun to> continue on with this.> I guess its much more fun to just continue on and on after I admitted> my mistake.> IS IT Pat in TX? Is it more fun? Even after an apology?> Maggie.
Ummmm, Maggie...if you look at when Pat's message was posted, you may notice that it was posted yesterday, BEFORE your mea culpa.
On 7 Apr 2005 06:38:43 -0700, "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote:
But opinions change. And I am starting to understand the need for>dedicated cyclists to wear lycra. I am not rigid in my thinking.>
I could be clueless, I could be ignorant, I could be an idiot..I could>be all the things I was called.... but I'm willing to listen and I'm>more than willing to admit when I was wrong.>
All Good things,>Maggie (the infamous)
Maggie, many months ago, you posted some misguided comments on lycra bike wear. You were taken to task for it and it was explained in detail, why people prefer this type of clothing.
As I recall, you doubted that you would wear such gear, but seemed to understand why others do. Now months later, you post about lycra bike wear, in such a way as to cause controversy. You may be a regular, but you also exhibit troll tendencies. You knew that you would get this type of response, that's trolling.
I don't think anyone would have taken offense, had you said that you saw a rider, in full gear, which you seldom see. It was the comments about your town's perceived reactions that stood out. Phrases like "the strangest thing" and "He had the helmet thing going" are going to cause people to respond. What you seem to find so strange, is a common everyday occurence for most of us.
I think the one that amazed me, was the "He had the helmet thing going". Doesn't anyone in your town wear a helmet? Do you have a helmet? It is most likely a requirement for your MS ride. So you better get used to wearing one. A good one will almost go unnoticed, but a cheapie, might take some getting used to.
Jim Boyer wrote:> Maggie,> Do a Google search on RAGBRAI and look at pictures of regular, everyday> cyclists....12,000 of them from all over the country. These are> predominately not racers. All of them will wear clothing that is comfortable> for them. For a majority, that is the kind of clothing you saw this cyclist> wearing. Then Google other bike clubs or charity ride events and look for> club pictures of more recreational cyclists. In our recreational club the> fittest, fattest, slowest, and 81 year oldest members wear this kind of> clothing. It isn't strange... it's work specific clothing that has numerous> advantages on the bike in many kinds of conditions.> jb
I for one do not want to see the fattest, slowest, and 81 year oldest riders in Lycra. That would probably lead to some very disturbing nightmares. That reminds me of getting stuck behind the 400 pound woman is short shorts at a Wal-mart in the summer which sure curbed my desire to shop much more. Sorry, had to mention that, but some people just should not wear shorts. Bill Baka
"RonSonic" <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:oju85153dnircgeln2ud9ptiudr49l1sg5@4ax.com...>
I've seen guys on a "team" bike and matching kit that obviously paid for
themselves and it is a little odd.
On of the guys on our normal ride has the full Postie kit. It came with his trek as a bonus. He doesn't wear it much, but occasionally, when everything else is dirty. But just because they have a kit doesn't mean they paid for it.
: > Well I never!!!! I guess I have just been diagnosed. "I have small : > town syndrome". Half the time I am being sarcastic, and the post is : > taken so seriously it amazes me. : > Maggie...the sheltered.
: I think you just like to write and you make sh*t like this up just to do it.
What puzzles me is why she writes stuff that she then comes back and declares she didn't mean it, was being sarcastic, and why didn't the rest of us KNOW THAT?
Pat wrote: :::: Well I never!!!! I guess I have just been diagnosed. "I have small :::: town syndrome". Half the time I am being sarcastic, and the post :::: is taken so seriously it amazes me. :::: Maggie...the sheltered. :: ::: I think you just like to write and you make sh*t like this up just ::: to do it. :: :: What puzzles me is why she writes stuff that she then comes back and :: declares she didn't mean it, was being sarcastic, and why didn't the :: rest of us KNOW THAT?
She was trying to get the heat off I guess she gets bored too.
Pat wrote:>:::: Well I never!!!! I guess I have just been diagnosed. "I have small>:::: town syndrome". Half the time I am being sarcastic, and the post>:::: is taken so seriously it amazes me.>:::: Maggie...the sheltered.>::>::: I think you just like to write and you make sh*t like this up just>::: to do it.>::>:: What puzzles me is why she writes stuff that she then comes back and>:: declares she didn't mean it, was being sarcastic, and why didn't the>:: rest of us KNOW THAT?
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With comedic stylings akin to a cross between Ernestine the switchboard operator(Laugh-in) and Florence Jean 'Flo' Castleberry ("Alice"), I'm picturing:
A team of M.I.T. programmers between projects?
The Positronic Brain of the Imperious Leader? _Imperious Leader_: There can be no survivors. So long as one sane r.b.m member remains alive, the Alliance is threatened.
Neil Brooks <Neil0502@yahoo.com> wrote:> "wafflycat" <wafflesATv21netDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:>
Husband & son shave their legs.>>
Reason 1: when racing, post race a massage is great for getting the excess >>lactic acid out of the muscles. Massage oil is much easier to apply to a >>hair-free leg. I know, I'm "team masseuse" >>
Reason 2: If you come off, and skin abrades against tarmac, it's much easier >>to clean the wound of grit & dirt if the leg is hair-free. It also heals >>easier with less chance of going septic through hair trapping dirt in the >>wound.>
I'll have to say that Reason #2 is sorta true. Not in the infection sense, because I doubt being shaved helps. But when it was healing from the last time I lost a bit of skin, I *really* wished I had had my legs shaved when I had the spill. My hairs being pulled out when scabs came off and whenever I changed bandages was very irritating. Especially since the area was raw from the injury.
And Reason #1 is true also IMHO from the receiving end.
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