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What do these bikes cost?

Maggie 16 March 2005 17:43:18
 I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an
LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost?
It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.

http://www2.trekbik­es.com/en/Bikes/City­_Bike_Path/Comfort/N­avigator_200_Equippe­d/index.php

All Good Things
Maggie

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Strayhorn 16 March 2005 17:56:08 permanent link ]
 In article <1110980598.409974.­158760@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:

The local Trek dealer (Cycle Center in Durham NC) has these in the
$350-$400 range, depending on the usual variables.

--
Strayhorn

³Every time a system is made foolproof - a new class of fool emerges.²

Prod Harris
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Maggie 16 March 2005 18:03:04 permanent link ]
 
Strayhorn wrote:> In article <1110980598.409974.­158760@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,> "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:>
http://www2.trekbik­es.com/en/Bikes/City­_Bike_Path/Comfort/N­avigator_200_Equipp>­ > ed/index.php>
The local Trek dealer (Cycle Center in Durham NC) has these in the> $350-$400 range, depending on the usual variables.>
--> Strayhorn>
³Every time a system is made foolproof - a new class of fool
emerges.²>
Prod Harris


Thanks, now I can go into an LBS without feeling like a total jackass.
I do not want to walk into an LBS and find out I want a 3,000 dollar
bike. I just relized recently that bikes actually CAN cost $3,000.
And the name TREK scared me. That price range is sweet. And do-able.
Thanks.
All Good Things,
Maggie
PS...Living in New Jersey a 350.00 dollar bike could cost 3 large. You
never know. But I will give it a shot.

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Ken Marcet 16 March 2005 18:43:53 permanent link ]
 
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message
news:1110980598.409­974.158760@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost?> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>
http://www2.trekbik­es.com/en/Bikes/City­_Bike_Path/Comfort/N­avigator_200_Equippe­d/index.php>
All Good Things> Maggie>
I don't know for sure, but it looks pretty nice, and just being a Trek you
KNOW it will be pricey!

Ken

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Frank-In-Toronto 16 March 2005 19:18:52 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:53 -0500, "Ken Marcet" <kcmarcet@hotpop.co­m>
wrote:
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message>news:111098­0598.409974.158760@f­14g2000cwb.googlegro­ups.com...>> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an>> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost?>> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>>
All Good Things>> Maggie>>
I don't know for sure, but it looks pretty nice, and just being a Trek you>KNOW it will be pricey!
Nice? I wouldn't be caught DEAD riding that bike. PeeWee Herman
might like it. Yikes.
...thehick
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Ken Marcet 16 March 2005 19:20:19 permanent link ]
 
"frank-in-toronto" <thehickOBVIOUS@OBV­IOUScanada.com> wrote in message
news:tgjg31128e5s2e­vbcj13q7o42j350hgf31­@4ax.com...> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:53 -0500, "Ken Marcet" <kcmarcet@hotpop.co­m>> wrote:>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message> >news:1110980598.40­9974.158760@f14g2000­cwb.googlegroups.com­...> >> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an> >> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost?> >> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.> >>
ipped/index.php> >>
All Good Things> >> Maggie> >>
I don't know for sure, but it looks pretty nice, and just being a Trek
KNOW it will be pricey!> Nice? I wouldn't be caught DEAD riding that bike. PeeWee Herman> might like it. Yikes.> ...thehick

Oh come on now! It's not that bad, just for cruising around town! It's
better than a lot of mtb's I have seen. And from what I have read about
Maggie and the way she rides this might just be a great bike for her.

Ken

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Fritz M 16 March 2005 21:47:16 permanent link ]
 Maggie,

I got my wife a Trek Navigator a couple of years ago and she loves it.

When it's time to do it over, though, I'll probably be getting her
something from these guys:

http://www.electrab­ike.com/

Giant Bicycles is also making some very nice looking cruisers right
now:

http://www.giant-bi­cycle.com/us/030.000­.000/030.000.000.asp­?range=210

RFM

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Roger Zoul 16 March 2005 22:40:49 permanent link ]
 Fritz M wrote:
:: Maggie,
::
:: I got my wife a Trek Navigator a couple of years ago and she loves
:: it.
::
:: When it's time to do it over, though, I'll probably be getting her
:: something from these guys:
::
:: http://www.electrab­ike.com/

Cool bike! I'd like to see Maggie on that.

::
:: Giant Bicycles is also making some very nice looking cruisers right
:: now:
::
:: http://www.giant-bi­cycle.com/us/030.000­.000/030.000.000.asp­?range=210
::

Very interesting. I'd get fenders though.

:: RFM


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Maggie 16 March 2005 23:21:27 permanent link ]
 
Fritz M wrote:> Maggie,>
I got my wife a Trek Navigator a couple of years ago and she loves
it.>
When it's time to do it over, though, I'll probably be getting her> something from these guys:>
RFM

I love those bikes. Reminds me of the Strawberry Shortcake bikes I
bought for my daughter. All pink and pretty.
All Good things,
Maggie

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Maxo 17 March 2005 00:05:26 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:43:18 -0800, Maggie wrote:
I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost? It> looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>
All Good Things> Maggie

Don't know what that model costs, but if you're going the city bike route,
go all the way and go for an internal transmission.

The REI Novara Fusion has an eight speed hub, fenders, rack, built in
lighting system with hub generator and automatic on/off.

You can even get it in a girly step thru frame.

$700US

I want one.

http://www.rei.com/­online/store/Product­Display?storeId=8000­&catalogId=400000080­00&productId=4784165­5&parent_category_rn­=4500775
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Matt O'Toole 17 March 2005 00:21:24 permanent link ]
 Ken Marcet wrote:> "frank-in-toronto" <thehickOBVIOUS@OBV­IOUScanada.com> wrote in message> news:tgjg31128e5s2e­vbcj13q7o42j350hgf31­@4ax.com...>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:53 -0500, "Ken Marcet">> <kcmarcet@hotpop.co­m> wrote:>>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message>>> news:1110980598.409­974.158760@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..>>>> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk>>>> into an LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like>>>> this cost? It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my>>>> name.>>>>
All Good Things>>>> Maggie>>>>
I don't know for sure, but it looks pretty nice, and just being a>>> Trek you KNOW it will be pricey!>> Nice? I wouldn't be caught DEAD riding that bike. PeeWee Herman>> might like it. Yikes.>> ...thehick>
Oh come on now! It's not that bad, just for cruising around town! It's> better than a lot of mtb's I have seen. And from what I have read> about Maggie and the way she rides this might just be a great bike> for her.

A bike like this is perfect for many people. I'd love to get one for my mom!
There are millions of them in Europe and Japan, used by everyday folks for
transportation. It's great to see an American bike company finally addresssing
something other than the sport market.

Matt O.


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Brian Huntley 17 March 2005 01:17:12 permanent link ]
 
Zoot Katz wrote:

That photo looks like she's in the left lane of an elevated highway.
Bizarre, indeed!

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Zoot Katz 17 March 2005 02:09:43 permanent link ]
 16 Mar 2005 13:17:12 -0800,
<1111007832.482198.­247740@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,
"Brian Huntley" <brian_huntley@hotm­ail.com> wrote:
Zoot Katz wrote:>
That photo looks like she's in the left lane of an elevated highway.>Bizarre, indeed!

It's okay, she's sharing the road with a couple hundred other bikes.

It's not actually a "highway" but the parallel Georgia (east bound)
and Dunsmuir (west bound) viaducts each carrying three lanes of
one-way traffic or 20,000 to 40,000 vehicles per day. The posted speed
is 60 Kmh.
--
zk
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RonSonic 17 March 2005 04:20:10 permanent link ]
 On 16 Mar 2005 09:47:16 -0800, "Fritz M" <nospam@masoner.net­> wrote:
Maggie,>
I got my wife a Trek Navigator a couple of years ago and she loves it.>
When it's time to do it over, though, I'll probably be getting her>something from these guys:>
Giant Bicycles is also making some very nice looking cruisers right>now:>


I'm seeing a lot of gals on cruisers out on the trails lately. Apparently the
bike manufacturers figured out the rule of selling to women, they don't care it
the stinking gadget looks good, they care how it makes them look. And the recent
cruisers make 'em look as cool as that chick on the Velo Bella logo.

Ron
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Mike 17 March 2005 04:43:54 permanent link ]
 
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message
news:1110980598.409­974.158760@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost?> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>
http://www2.trekbik­es.com/en/Bikes/City­_Bike_Path/Comfort/N­avigator_200_Equippe­d/index.php>
All Good Things> Maggie>
Final answer!! If the bike fits, Wear It!! If it fits well and cruises
the way you want, you will love to use it.
Mike



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Rich 17 March 2005 06:27:35 permanent link ]
 Maggie wrote:> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost?> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>
All Good Things> Maggie>

Didn't you just buy a bike last fall when you started posting here on
the newsgroup?

Just curious.

Rich
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Tom Sherman 17 March 2005 07:19:09 permanent link ]
 Maggie wrote:
Well, you are not me. You ride your kinda bike, I'll ride my kinda> bike. I like it. I am not Lance Armstrong nor am I PeeWee, I am an old> woman who is going to ride my bike around town, through parks, and on a> few charity rides....

Here is what I like: <http://www.speedbi­kes.ch/butterfly.htm­l>.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois)

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Zoot Katz 17 March 2005 09:27:18 permanent link ]
 Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:27:35 -0700, <113hqojqf2m4312@co­rp.supernews.com>,
Rich <richa_colorado@yah­oo.com> wrote:
Didn't you just buy a bike last fall when you started posting here on >the newsgroup?>
Just curious.>
Rich

Two, IIRC.
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zk
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Jj 17 March 2005 17:24:51 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:27:18 -0800, Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com>
wrote:
Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:27:35 -0700, <113hqojqf2m4312@co­rp.supernews.com>,>R­ich <richa_colorado@yah­oo.com> wrote:>
Didn't you just buy a bike last fall when you started posting here on >>the newsgroup?>>
Just curious.>>
Rich>
Two, IIRC.

Upon seeing this with 'special' attachment, there will likely be four:

http://www.theacorn­.com/common/Vacation­_Photos/046p1_lg.jpg­

jj

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Fritz M 17 March 2005 20:42:00 permanent link ]
 RonSonic wrote:> And the recent> cruisers make 'em look as cool as that chick on the Velo Bella logo.

c.f. http://www.velobell­a.org/

That does look cool, almost like my wife except she has a little lapdog
in the front basket. And my wife is Swedish and blond. And her bike
isn't pink. And she doesn't have a banana seat. No ape hanger bars
either. But other than that, they look just alike.

RFM

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Tom Keats 17 March 2005 22:30:36 permanent link ]
 In article <39rircF651rjmU1@in­dividual.net>,
"Matt O'Toole" <matt@deltanet.com>­ writes:
A bike like this is perfect for many people.

Yes! I like the Trek Navigators as "all-arounder/gener­al purpose"
bikes. It would be nice if they offered a choice of rigid fork
instead of those now ubiquitous RST suspension forks. I note
the unit in the link provided by Maggie in her first post comes
already equipped with rack and fenders. That's nice for people
who don't want to fuss around suspension forks and V-brakes to
install aftermarket fenders. It also appears to have sensible
wheels. With the rear rack, Maggie would have no excuse to hang
shopping bags on the handlebar :-)­
I'd love to get one for my mom!> There are millions of them in Europe and Japan, used by everyday folks for> transportation. It's great to see an American bike company finally addresssing> something other than the sport market.

There are those Breezer city bikes, but they're pretty expensive.
The Navigators are nicely affordable. For people who want a
basic city runabout bike that can occasionally be put to work
on shopping trips etc, I think the Navigators go a long way
toward positive cycling experiences.


cheers,
Tom

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Above address is just a spam midden.
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Tom Keats 17 March 2005 22:33:51 permanent link ]
 In article <39ttd6F62tolvU1@in­dividual.net>,
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail­.com> writes:
Get your trek, dumb the k-mart (or give it to charity) and use your other> one as a rain or extra bike.

That's a good idea.
Ride and have fun.

That's a good idea too :-)­


cheers,
Tom

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Above address is just a spam midden.
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Rich 17 March 2005 23:43:44 permanent link ]
 
Upon seeing this with 'special' attachment, there will likely be four:>

With proper umbrella placement and a sufficiently windy day, those could
be fast.

Rich
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Rich 17 March 2005 23:49:33 permanent link ]
 Maggie wrote:
I bought two bikes. The first bike I bought was a K-Mart Bike. It was> really cheap. I think I paid 60 dollars for it or something. Then I> decided that I should get a better one. The better one is not so> better.

I think the better one is pretty much like this one, without the rack.
It came from a LBS right? AFter you posted here for feedback on it?
Perhaps you could just buy the rack and put it on your current LBS bike.
Unless, of course, you just like buying bikes. In that case, buy away.

Rich
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Craig Brossman 17 March 2005 23:54:33 permanent link ]
 Maggie wrote:> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk into an> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this cost?> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>
All Good Things> Maggie>

I hope they don't charge by the pound, that looks heavy.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
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Catzz66 18 March 2005 00:13:43 permanent link ]
 Having a front suspension is really not a big deal. If you live in an
urban area, it's useful when you encounter potholes and construction
repairs. I've mostly been riding a bone rattling road bike, but have a
front suspension on my mtn bike.
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Maggie 18 March 2005 00:37:47 permanent link ]
 
Craig Brossman wrote:> Maggie wrote:> > I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk
into an> > LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this
cost?> > It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.> >
http://www2.trekbik­es.com/en/Bikes/City­_Bike_Path/Comfort/N­avigator_200_Equippe­d/index.php> >
All Good Things> > Maggie> >
I hope they don't charge by the pound, that looks heavy.>
--> Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado> remove "mydebt" to reply

I'll be going to the LBS Saturday......I will report back on Monday.
;-)­
You can count on it.
All Good Things,
Maggie

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Maggie 18 March 2005 00:41:01 permanent link ]
 
Rich wrote:> Maggie wrote:>
I bought two bikes. The first bike I bought was a K-Mart Bike. It
really cheap. I think I paid 60 dollars for it or something. Then
decided that I should get a better one. The better one is not so> > better.>
I think the better one is pretty much like this one, without the
rack.> It came from a LBS right? AFter you posted here for feedback on it?> Perhaps you could just buy the rack and put it on your current LBS
bike.> Unless, of course, you just like buying bikes. In that case, buy
away.>
Rich


I like buying......I shop to live. Much to my husband's dismay. But I
work hard, I deserve three bikes and designer accessories. (not for the
bike, for me)
All Good Things
Maggie

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Zoot Katz 18 March 2005 00:41:53 permanent link ]
 Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:54:33 -0700, <d1cn9q11hj3@enews4­.newsguy.com>,
Craig Brossman <brossman@durango.m­ydebt.net> wrote:
All Good Things>> Maggie>>
I hope they don't charge by the pound, that looks heavy.

Heavy bikes cost less per pound than light bikes.
Light - Cheap - Strong . . . choose two.
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zk
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Mjr 18 March 2005 01:01:31 permanent link ]
 
frank-in-toronto wrote:> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:53 -0500, "Ken Marcet"
<kcmarcet@hotpop.co­m>> wrote:>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message> >news:1110980598.40­9974.158760@f14g2000­cwb.googlegroups.com­...> >> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk
into an> >> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this
cost?> >> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.> >>
All Good Things> >> Maggie> >>
I don't know for sure, but it looks pretty nice, and just being a
Trek you> >KNOW it will be pricey!> Nice? I wouldn't be caught DEAD riding that bike. PeeWee Herman> might like it. Yikes.> ...thehick



Aw come on. is this board only for the "I know so much more than you
because I have a degree in physics" crowd, or the "I race category 1"
crowd?

Can we at least agree that the more people on bikes, the better the
world is? And if Maggie wants to ride a pee-wee herman bike or a
Colnago, she's equally welcome as are her queries?

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Frank-In-Toronto 18 March 2005 04:16:35 permanent link ]
 On 17 Mar 2005 13:01:31 -0800, "MJR" <pista@randazza.com­> wrote:
frank-in-toronto wrote:>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:53 -0500, "Ken Marcet"><kcmarcet@h­otpop.com>>> wrote:>>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message>> >news:1110980598.40­9974.158760@f14g2000­cwb.googlegroups.com­...>> >> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk>into an>> >> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this>cost?>> >> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>> >>
All Good Things>> >> Maggie>> >>
I don't know for sure, but it looks pretty nice, and just being a>Trek you>> >KNOW it will be pricey!>> Nice? I wouldn't be caught DEAD riding that bike. PeeWee Herman>> might like it. Yikes.>> ...thehick>
Aw come on. is this board only for the "I know so much more than you>because I have a degree in physics" crowd, or the "I race category 1">crowd?>
Can we at least agree that the more people on bikes, the better the>world is? And if Maggie wants to ride a pee-wee herman bike or a>Colnago, she's equally welcome as are her queries?
i don't have a degree and i sure don't race. i'm content to
poke along on my old mountain bike. i was commenting on
the appearance. not the rider. i don't know anything
about her. To me, a bike that upright is going to be
mighty tough to get up some hills. If her ride is mostly
flat, it'll probably be OK. don't blow this out of proportion.
...thehick
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Gooserider 18 March 2005 05:41:34 permanent link ]
 
"frank-in-toronto" <thehickOBVIOUS@OBV­IOUScanada.com> wrote in message
news:i77k31lsv9fm6t­2blia6ol45j55o44j696­@4ax.com...> On 17 Mar 2005 13:01:31 -0800, "MJR" <pista@randazza.com­> wrote:>
frank-in-toronto wrote:> >> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:53 -0500, "Ken Marcet"> ><kcmarcet@hotpop.c­om>> >> wrote:> >>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message> >> >news:1110980598.40­9974.158760@f14g2000­cwb.googlegroups.com­...> >> >> I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk> >into an> >> >> LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this> >cost?> >> >> It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.> >> >>
uipped/index.php> >> >>
All Good Things> >> >> Maggie> >> >>
I don't know for sure, but it looks pretty nice, and just being a> >Trek you> >> >KNOW it will be pricey!> >> Nice? I wouldn't be caught DEAD riding that bike. PeeWee Herman> >> might like it. Yikes.> >> ...thehick> >
Aw come on. is this board only for the "I know so much more than you> >because I have a degree in physics" crowd, or the "I race category 1"> >crowd?> >
Can we at least agree that the more people on bikes, the better the> >world is? And if Maggie wants to ride a pee-wee herman bike or a> >Colnago, she's equally welcome as are her queries?> i don't have a degree and i sure don't race. i'm content to> poke along on my old mountain bike. i was commenting on> the appearance. not the rider. i don't know anything> about her. To me, a bike that upright is going to be> mighty tough to get up some hills. If her ride is mostly> flat, it'll probably be OK. don't blow this out of proportion.> ...thehick

Whatever. Your comment that you "wouldn't be caught dead" on the Navigator
was kind of obnoxious. I happen to think that functional bikes have their
own aesthetic appeal. I think Breezers and town bikes of their kind are
cool. Of course, I like the Bianchi Milano, and that would probably cause
you to blow a gasket.


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Mike Kruger 18 March 2005 08:32:45 permanent link ]
 Maggie wrote:> Fritz M wrote:>>
I love those bikes. Reminds me of the Strawberry Shortcake
bikes I> bought for my daughter. All pink and pretty.>
You want pink and pretty? How about this bike (which someone
posted about recently in r.b.m.)
http://www.andreaha­rner.com/archives/20­03/11/this_girl_need­s_a_hello_kitty_bi.h­tml


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RonSonic 18 March 2005 09:11:32 permanent link ]
 On 17 Mar 2005 08:42:00 -0800, "Fritz M" <nospam@masoner.net­> wrote:
RonSonic wrote:>> And the recent>> cruisers make 'em look as cool as that chick on the Velo Bella logo.>
That does look cool, almost like my wife except she has a little lapdog>in the front basket. And my wife is Swedish and blond. And her bike>isn't pink. And she doesn't have a banana seat. No ape hanger bars>either. But other than that, they look just alike.

Ah, but aside from such trivial matters she looks just as cool. And we all know
that the most important thing about cycling is being cool.

Ron

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Dennis P. Harris 18 March 2005 12:16:30 permanent link ]
 On 17 Mar 2005 02:52:15 -0800 in rec.bicycles.misc, "Maggie"
<lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:
Now that spring is here and I am actually riding, I want to> invest in a comfort bike.

the best way to get a comfort bike is to ride more and get in
better shape, and to buy a bike that fits. most of the "comfort"
stuff is only comfortable for the occasional rider; serious
riders know that the softest seat may not be good for the back.


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Tom Sherman 18 March 2005 12:53:01 permanent link ]
 RonSonic wrote:
...> Ah, but aside from such trivial matters she looks just as cool. And we all know> that the most important thing about cycling is being cool.

The Fabrizio Mazzoleni cult gains another member. ;)

--
Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)

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Maggie 18 March 2005 14:54:07 permanent link ]
 
Mike Kruger wrote:> Maggie wrote:> > Fritz M wrote:> >>
I love those bikes. Reminds me of the Strawberry Shortcake> bikes I> > bought for my daughter. All pink and pretty.> >
You want pink and pretty? How about this bike (which someone> posted about recently in r.b.m.)>
http://www.andreaha­rner.com/archives/20­03/11/this_girl_need­s_a_hello_kitty_bi.h­tml

Hey, that is one pretty bike for one pretty girl. Life should be fun
while you have time to wear your party clothes. No one is getting out
of this world alive. Why spend it worrying about how "cool" we look on
our bikes. OR HOW NERDY!!!
All Good Things
Maggie

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Maggie 18 March 2005 18:33:19 permanent link ]
 
Roger Zoul wrote:> Fritz M wrote:> :: Maggie,> ::> :: I got my wife a Trek Navigator a couple of years ago and she loves> :: it.> ::> :: When it's time to do it over, though, I'll probably be getting her> :: something from these guys:> ::> :: http://www.electrab­ike.com/>
Cool bike! I'd like to see Maggie on that.>

OK, when I buy it, come on over. I'll make dinner for you.
All Good Things,
Maggie

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Zoot Katz 18 March 2005 22:26:40 permanent link ]
 Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:50:02 -0800,
<423aec25$0$29273$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>, "Claire Petersky"
<cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:
I don't want to see>you wearing a vest in hazard orange and riding a red bike. Ew.

There went lunch.
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Maggie 19 March 2005 00:18:22 permanent link ]
 
Zoot Katz wrote:> Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:50:02 -0800,> <423aec25$0$29273$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>, "Claire Petersky"> <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:>
I don't want to see> >you wearing a vest in hazard orange and riding a red bike. Ew.>
There went lunch.> -- > zk

Lie down and rest. ;-)­

Maggie

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Tom Keats 19 March 2005 01:15:11 permanent link ]
 In article <ra7m31lfirpsjb2hc2­nu2tghqsgnvfuifi@4ax­.com>,
Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com> writes:> Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:50:02 -0800,> <423aec25$0$29273$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>, "Claire Petersky"> <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:>
I don't want to see>>you wearing a vest in hazard orange and riding a red bike. Ew.>
There went lunch.

Indian red and sandy brown can go together pretty good, though,
as well as some other 'desert colours' sorts of combinations.
I kind of like stuff that's the opposite of the geographic
environment it's in. Maybe marine colours would work in the
Sonora Desert. I rather like some of the gaudy decorations on
those Cushman taxis they have in more exotic countries, too.


cheers,
Tom

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Maggie 19 March 2005 01:30:04 permanent link ]
 
Tom Keats wrote:> In article <ra7m31lfirpsjb2hc2­nu2tghqsgnvfuifi@4ax­.com>,> Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com> writes:> > Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:50:02 -0800,> > <423aec25$0$29273$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>, "Claire Petersky"> > <cpetersky@mousepot­ato.com> wrote:> >
I don't want to see> >>you wearing a vest in hazard orange and riding a red bike. Ew.> >
There went lunch.>
Indian red and sandy brown can go together pretty good, though,> as well as some other 'desert colours' sorts of combinations.> I kind of like stuff that's the opposite of the geographic> environment it's in. Maybe marine colours would work in the> Sonora Desert. I rather like some of the gaudy decorations on> those Cushman taxis they have in more exotic countries, too.>
cheers,> Tom>
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Well all I know is it's Friday and closing in on 5:00 p.m. The end of
the work day, end of the work week. It is a gorgeous day outside and I
am going home to take a ride on my bike. Tomorrow I will go to the LBS
and look at the Trek Navigator. See how it feels. If I like it, I may
just buy it. If I am not sure, I will hold off for awhile.

I am driving around in a beat up old car because my kids have my car
all the time. Today the seat fell backwards and I could not get it in
the upright position. I felt like a kid driving with the bucket seat
lowered. You know the kooky things they do.

My back was killing me with no back rest. It was like driving sitting
on a stool.

I think biking to work is going to be a great thing. I know it's not a
long haul. I work very close to home, but it takes one car off the
road, and gives me daily exercise. I am hoping I fall in love with a
bike tomorrow and someone gives me some helpful advice at the LBS.

I rarely go on my computer over the weekend. I save my posting till I
am back at work. ;-)­ So have a fantastic weekend, have fun, be good,
ride carefully, live well, laugh often and love much.
All good things,
Maggie.
PS. I hope I have a great riding story to tell on Monday. ;-)­
Love ya guys!!!!

http://hometown.aol­.com/lbuset/

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Zoot Katz 19 March 2005 01:57:18 permanent link ]
 18 Mar 2005 13:30:04 -0800,
<1111181404.569530.­262440@l41g2000cwc.g­ooglegroups.com>,
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote:
I am hoping I fall in love with a>bike tomorrow and someone gives me some helpful advice at the LBS.

Read and heed:
http://www.chainrea­ction.com/roadbikete­strides.htm
http://www.chainrea­ction.com/hybrids.ht­m
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Stephen Harding 19 March 2005 15:52:48 permanent link ]
 Claire Petersky wrote:> "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message>
But I>>work hard, I deserve three bikes and designer accessories.>
Maggie, if you enjoy shopping, you've barely scratched the surface on your> bike and your accessories. Do you get the Terry catalog yet? Go over to

Holy cow!

A case of Fabrizzio possession!

The first I've ever heard of.


SMH

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Tom Sherman 19 March 2005 16:55:02 permanent link ]
 Stephen Harding wrote:
Claire Petersky wrote:>
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> wrote in message>>
But I>>> work hard, I deserve three bikes and designer accessories.>>
Maggie, if you enjoy shopping, you've barely scratched the surface on >> your>> bike and your accessories. Do you get the Terry catalog yet? Go over to>
Holy cow!>
A case of Fabrizzio possession!>
The first I've ever heard of.

Claire is one the members of the Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club.

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Mark Mitchell 19 March 2005 23:42:05 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:37:47 -0800, Maggie wrote:
Maggie wrote:>> > I want this bike. I have tried to google a price before I walk> into an>> > LBS and fall dead on the floor. How much does a bike like this> cost?>> > It looks so comfy and right for me. It is calling my name.>> >
All Good Things>> > Maggie>> >
I'll be going to the LBS Saturday......I will report back on Monday.> ;-)­

Just FYI, I googled a price on those, and I was seeing IIRC, $330-380.

Mark Mitchell
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Dane Jackson 13 April 2005 23:27:16 permanent link ]
 Neil Cherry <njc@wolfgang.uucp>­ wrote:>> Dane Jackson blathered on:>>
Trivial stuff:>>
Shoe sole in clipless-shoes, snapped in half>> Rails on saddle (cro-moly) - maybe 2000 miles>> Chain (~ 1000 miles) - trashed my derailleur + cut spokes>
I get ~ 3000 miles on a chain so at least twice a year I replace it (I> do about 5K miles per year).

I only get that mileage out of a chain in the summer. The pernicious
rain and road grit here in Seattle generally chews my chains up in 1500
-2000 miles the rest of the year. So I go through about 3-4 chains a
year.
Wheels (worth a category by itself):>>
1st wheel, problems with spokes breaking, had it rebuilt by someone>> with a clue, lasted until it had multiple spoke pull-throughs.>> 2nd wheel, good build, until ~1000 miles, every fourth spoke pulled>> through, Mavic says "nothing wrong with Rim". Lies.>> 3rd wheel, not so severe (and most likely my fault), lots of spokes>> breaking near the head. I'm going to retension it.>
I have the same problem with pull through on the rims (Open Pro's). So> far the Mavic A719 rim seems to be holding up well. I'm using 36 spoke> rims but they're meant for use with my commute (trailer or back> pack). I now have a couple of MA3 rims (to repair the dead 32 spoke> rims) and I'll see how well they work. Finally I'll try a Sun rim that> I found on Sheldon's Harrison Cyclery site.

The second wheel was an MA3 (36h). I hope you have better luck than I
did. I rebuilt the wheel (with the same rim), but I was just going to
use it on my wife's bike, since she doesn't put many miles on currently.
But I'm riding it now since the third wheel is sitting in my basement
waiting for me to have time to fix it up.>
I'm not having problems with spokes but most of my wheels have thick> spokes. When I have busted spokes it was after an event such as a> pannier getting sucked into the wheel. Shortly after the event some of> the spoke would break. I think that was the thick/thin/thick spokes> (DT?).

Wheel #3 is straight 14g spokes, Wheel #2 is DT 14/15/14 spokes.
Most of the problems I've has been with wheels and tires. On the rims> it's been spoke pull through and bent rims (dings from potholes and> bad expansion joints). On tires it's been sidewalls and internal> threads. I've sliced the sidewalls on way too many tires. And on some> tires I've seen the outside tire treads go zig-zag (on the tire look> at the treads). Something internal let go and is all screwed up.

I've had zero problems with tires since I switched to using 28 and 32mm
Continental Top Touring Tires. The bigger/thicker the better. I don't
know of anyplace local that carries the Schwalbe Marathon's or I'd
seriously consider trying them out.

I've only had two flats in the 10000 miles since I switched to TT tires.
What I really need it touring equipment and not racing equipment.

I'm seriously tempted to find a 40 or 48 hole rear hub and build up a
*really* sturdy rear wheel. I really need to go find the most economical
way to do that (for 130 or 135 mm rear triangle).
Major:>>
Fork bent from braking force (Surly Crosscheck cromo fork)>> Brake mounts on fork also bent>> This also bent up the front wheel. :(­>
Wow, you are brutal! I've braked hard enough to lift the rear wheel> but not bend the fork or the mounts.

Nose wheelies are amusing (in retrospect). I think the brake mounts
bending caused the wheel to lock. This meant I did an endo. Well,
sort of an endo, more like a roll. I didn't come unattached from
the bike until the very end of the collision.

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would be accurate. -- K.E. Iverson
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Tom Keats 18 April 2005 21:58:37 permanent link ]
 In article <tl7dj2-roi.ln1@zuv­embi.homelinux.org>,­
Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> writes:
I have a new broken part to add to the list. I was taking my daughter> to the aquarium. I was riding my grocery bike, pulling the trailer.> I came to a halt at a stop sign, about to pull onto a major arterial.> I realized quickly I had a problem when my left handlebar came off in> my hand. It had snapped clean off about 2 mm from the edge of the stem.

<shudder>

That's one of my greatest fears. Good thing you weren't moving
when it broke.


cheers,
Tom

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Zoot Katz 19 April 2005 00:33:47 permanent link ]
 Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:34:21 -0700,
<tl7dj2-roi.ln1@zuv­embi.homelinux.org>,­
Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:
I was riding my grocery bike, pulling the trailer.>I came to a halt at a stop sign, about to pull onto a major arterial.>I realized quickly I had a problem when my left handlebar came off in>my hand. It had snapped clean off about 2 mm from the edge of the stem.

Whew!, that's too close. Somebody's lookin' out for you.

Was there no previous indication it was failing?
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Dane Jackson 19 April 2005 02:10:11 permanent link ]
 Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail­.com> wrote:> In article <tl7dj2-roi.ln1@zuv­embi.homelinux.org>,­> Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> writes:>
I have a new broken part to add to the list. I was taking my daughter>> to the aquarium. I was riding my grocery bike, pulling the trailer.>> I came to a halt at a stop sign, about to pull onto a major arterial.>> I realized quickly I had a problem when my left handlebar came off in>> my hand. It had snapped clean off about 2 mm from the edge of the stem.>
<shudder>>
That's one of my greatest fears. Good thing you weren't moving> when it broke.

I had a vision later of me lying crumpled on the pavement, unmoving.
Meanwhile my three year old would be wailing in the trailer wanting
to know why Daddy's not moving. Very upsetting.

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Almost anything derogatory you could say about today's software design
would be accurate. -- K.E. Iverson
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Dane Jackson 19 April 2005 02:14:43 permanent link ]
 Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com> wrote:> Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:>
I was riding my grocery bike, pulling the trailer.>>I came to a halt at a stop sign, about to pull onto a major arterial.>>I realized quickly I had a problem when my left handlebar came off in>>my hand. It had snapped clean off about 2 mm from the edge of the stem.>
Whew!, that's too close. Somebody's lookin' out for you.>
Was there no previous indication it was failing?

None. The 3/4 mile was all up-hill from my house. So I was putting a
fair amount of torque on the bars to start up and stop a few times.
There were no noises or wierd feelings in the bars. The bike has never
been crashed (AFAIK). So this was totally out of the blue.

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Murder is always a mistake -- one should never do anything one cannot
talk about after dinner. -- Oscar Wilde, "The Picture of Dorian Gray"
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Zoot Katz 19 April 2005 03:17:21 permanent link ]
 Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:14:43 -0700,
<j3odj2-2ij.ln1@zuv­embi.homelinux.org>,­ Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu>
wrote:
Was there no previous indication it was failing?>
None. The 3/4 mile was all up-hill from my house. So I was putting a>fair amount of torque on the bars to start up and stop a few times.>There were no noises or wierd feelings in the bars. The bike has never>been crashed (AFAIK). So this was totally out of the blue.

Man, that is frightening.

Short of some rather sophisticated metallurgical testing there's just
know way of knowing.
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Bill Sornson 19 April 2005 03:26:26 permanent link ]
 Dane Jackson wrote:> Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail­.com> wrote:>> Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:>>
I was riding my grocery bike, pulling the trailer.>>> I came to a halt at a stop sign, about to pull onto a major>>> arterial.>>> I realized quickly I had a problem when my left handlebar came off>>> in my hand. It had snapped clean off about 2 mm from the edge of>>> the stem.>>
Whew!, that's too close. Somebody's lookin' out for you.>>
Was there no previous indication it was failing?>
None. The 3/4 mile was all up-hill from my house. So I was putting a> fair amount of torque on the bars to start up and stop a few times.> There were no noises or wierd feelings in the bars. The bike has> never been crashed (AFAIK). So this was totally out of the blue.

Was this a carbon handlebar, or aluminum, or...?

Bill "old Monkey Lite on the fully" S.


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Dane Jackson 19 April 2005 17:53:12 permanent link ]
 Bill Sornson <nospamsorninospam@­san.rr.comnospam> wrote:> Dane Jackson wrote:>>
None. The 3/4 mile was all up-hill from my house. So I was putting a>> fair amount of torque on the bars to start up and stop a few times.>> There were no noises or wierd feelings in the bars. The bike has>> never been crashed (AFAIK). So this was totally out of the blue.>
Was this a carbon handlebar, or aluminum, or...?

Just the stock aluminum handlebar that came with the bike. It was truly
a nasty piece of work. The drops are slightly too small for my hands, it
is equipped with suicide levers, and it has this nasty rubber coating in
place of bar tape. If it wasn't for the fact that it had the odd French
sizes (22.0 stem), I would have been shut of it earlier. Time to break
out the sandpaper.

Pictures: <http://pinko.mommi­e.org/gallery/broken­bar>

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the voices in my head and send them to you!!!"
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