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Panniers for school books?

Michael Elliott 15 March 2005 01:05:34
 [I did a search of the rec.bicycles.misc archives w/o finding quite the
answer I'm
looking for -- if I used the wrong search terms (panniers, books,
school) then I may have overlooked a commonly-discussed thread. If so,
please point me to it.]

I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting
nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup
for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach
easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?

OTOH, how about that milk-crate-strapped­-to-the-rack "system"? -- is there
a consensus about whether it's a good all-round solution?

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Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
VW 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
VW 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
KG6RCR
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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 15 March 2005 00:39:06 permanent link ]
 [I did a search of the r.b.t. archives w/o finding quite the answer I'm
looking for -- if I used the wrong search terms (panniers, books,
school) then I may have overlooked a commonly-discussed thread. If so,
please point me to it.]

I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting
nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup
for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach
easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?

--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
VW 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
VW 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
KG6RCR
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Neil Brooks 15 March 2005 00:51:46 permanent link ]
 "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
<j.michael.elliottA­T@REMOVETHEOBVIOUSgm­ailDOT.com> wrote:
[I did a search of the r.b.t. archives w/o finding quite the answer I'm >looking for -- if I used the wrong search terms (panniers, books, >school) then I may have overlooked a commonly-discussed thread. If so, >please point me to it.]>
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting >nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup >for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach >easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?

You may also want to check rec.bicycles.misc

Here's another site that may help:

http://www.lancerus­hing.com/bicycling/p­anniers.cfm

Good luck!
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S o r n i 15 March 2005 00:58:36 permanent link ]
 Neil Brooks wrote:
Here's another site that may help:>

You find that surfing the Jesus Bikers sites?!?

(Guy buys a Moots and I don't even know 'im any mo'...)

Plain old aluminum Bill


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Neil Brooks 15 March 2005 01:03:40 permanent link ]
 "S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.­rr.com> wrote:
Neil Brooks wrote:>
Here's another site that may help:>>
You find that surfing the Jesus Bikers sites?!?>
(Guy buys a Moots and I don't even know 'im any mo'...)>
Plain old aluminum Bill

HOLY MACKEREL!

I never visited his other pages before.

Well . . . I'll just take it on faith that he knows his panniers. I
mean, if JC shouldered the burden of others, then this guy should
*surely* know bike luggage . . . .
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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 15 March 2005 02:37:20 permanent link ]
 On 3/14/2005 12:51 PM Neil Brooks wrote:
"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"> <j.michael.elliottA­T@REMOVETHEOBVIOUSgm­ailDOT.com> wrote:>
[I did a search of the r.b.t. archives w/o finding quite the answer I'm >>looking for -- if I used the wrong search terms (panniers, books, >>school) then I may have overlooked a commonly-discussed thread. If so, >>please point me to it.]>>
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting >>nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup >>for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach >>easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?>
You may also want to check rec.bicycles.misc

Many thanks, I've posted my question over there.

The Arkel "Briefcase" pannier seems to be a possible option.

http://www.panniers­.com/panniers/briefc­ase/overview.asp?fl=­0&site=

Anyone have any comments about that thing?

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Treynolds@My-Deja.Com 15 March 2005 06:42:08 permanent link ]
 
Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:> I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is
getting> nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup
for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach
easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?>
When I was in college I had a set of panniers on my bike. In one I
would carry my clothes and in the other my book bag. I also paid rent
on a locker. When I arrived I would lock up the bike next to my
locker, pull both panniers off, throw the books pannier into my locker,
take the other to the gym and shower, come back, toss the clothes
pannier into the locker, and pull the book bag out of the other
pannier, throw the book backpack over my shoulder and head to class.

To answer your question more directly, a set of panniers that are big
enough to carry your book bag so you can just pull it out and head to
class.

One more think about panniers is that you should find some way to
secure them besides the clips that they come with. If they bounce off
while you are riding, such as after you hit a pothole, it could be
dangerous. I use spotties now but in college I used tie-wraps, since I
had to remove the panniers daily.

Tom

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Kev 15 March 2005 12:17:50 permanent link ]
 
Michael Elliott wrote:> [I did a search of the rec.bicycles.misc archives w/o finding quite
answer I'm> looking for -- if I used the wrong search terms (panniers, books,> school) then I may have overlooked a commonly-discussed thread. If
so,> please point me to it.]>
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is
getting> nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup> for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach> easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?>
OTOH, how about that milk-crate-strapped­-to-the-rack "system"? -- is
there> a consensus about whether it's a good all-round solution?>
--> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott> VW 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus> VW 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"> KG6RCR


You could try those smaller panniers that are attached to a carry
hook that straps on top of the rack and you can use velcro to snap it
on or off. and you can carry it like a plastic bag with straps. :)­

Kevin

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Dennis P. Harris 15 March 2005 12:42:08 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:05:34 -0800 in rec.bicycles.misc, Michael
Elliott <j.michael.elliott@­adelphia.net> wrote:
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting> nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup> for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach> easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?>
your want a rear rack duffle that can expand. i used to carry a
day's worth of textbooks and sometimes a laptop in one, along
with lunch.

take a look at
http://www.nashbar.­com/profile.cfm?cate­gory=66&subcategory=­1005&brand=&sku=6801­&storetype=&estoreid­=&pagename=
OTOH, how about that milk-crate-strapped­-to-the-rack "system"? -- is there> a consensus about whether it's a good all-round solution?>
if you need to haul serious groceries or laundry, get some "town
bags" like
http://www.nashbar.­com/profile.cfm?cate­gory=66&subcategory=­1004&brand=&sku=8641­&storetype=&estoreid­=&pagename=

you can ride with them collapsed when they're empty. they work
best on front racks IMHO.

unless it's strictly a training ride, the rack duffle goes with
me everywhere i ride, schlepping cameras, pocket stuff, mail,
books, lunches, even file folders. the outside pockets carry
headlights, tire guage, some clif bars, hand lotion...

it's big enough i can stuff the helmet inside when empty, and my
short pump fits in the top. it comes with a shoulder strap with
rudimentary cushion, but i borrowed a leather one with swivels
off an old briefcase that works better for me.

i used it quite a bit in france during last summer's tour. this
is my second one; the first one lasted 9 years of almost daily
use.


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Wafflycat 15 March 2005 15:15:34 permanent link ]
 
"Michael Elliott" <j.michael.elliott@­adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:jISdnYSU270CYa­jfRVn-1w@adelphia.co­m...> [I did a search of the rec.bicycles.misc archives w/o finding quite the > answer I'm> looking for -- if I used the wrong search terms (panniers, books,> school) then I may have overlooked a commonly-discussed thread. If so,> please point me to it.]>
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting> nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup> for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach> easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?>


My son regularly commutes the 13 miles to college on his bike. He uses a
tourer with rear rack. He uses bungee cords to strap his bag full of
books/change of clothes etc to the rack. He uses one of these...

<http://www.fieldan­dtrek.com/product.as­p?pf_id=13552&sfile=­1&filter_cat=EQUITRA­VLUGG&manufacturer_i­d=LGT&cid=KWUL2GR3LI­DET6968KQF3QPPEE2LOH­RO&cid=KWUL2GR3LIDET­6968KQF3QPPEE2LOHRO>­

He won't use panniers.

Having weighed the bag fully loaded with his stuff, it's about 20lbs, so
pretty good resistance training over the winter months ;-)­ On the plus side,
the rear handle can take a LED light, so it's helpful with visibility in the
dark.

Cheers, helen s



OTOH, how about that milk-crate-strapped­-to-the-rack "system"? -- is there> a consensus about whether it's a good all-round solution?>
-- > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott> VW 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus> VW 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"> KG6RCR

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Peter Cole 15 March 2005 16:56:31 permanent link ]
 
Michael Elliott wrote:> [I did a search of the rec.bicycles.misc archives w/o finding quite
answer I'm> looking for -- if I used the wrong search terms (panniers, books,> school) then I may have overlooked a commonly-discussed thread. If
so,> please point me to it.]>
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is
getting> nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup> for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach> easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?>
OTOH, how about that milk-crate-strapped­-to-the-rack "system"? -- is
there> a consensus about whether it's a good all-round solution?

I think the milk-crate-strapped­(bolted)-to-rack is the best overall
solution. You need to put some sort of cross member underneath to
support the bottom.

I put my stuff in my backpack, throw my backpack in the milk crate;
when I get to where I'm going, lock the bike (keep lock in crate, too),
& put the backpack on. Simple. The milk crate is also much easier to
toss stuff in for errands than fussing with strapping to a rack.

Fold-out "shopping bag" panniers work pretty well, too. They're
basically canvas/cordura bags with a folding frame that hooks to the
rack. You can fold them flat when empty and carry them off the bike
when full with their loop handles. OK for shopping, probably not that
great for books-to-school.

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Maxo 15 March 2005 23:19:39 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:05:34 -0800, Michael Elliott wrote:
OTOH, how about that milk-crate-strapped­-to-the-rack "system"? -- is> there a consensus about whether it's a good all-round solution?

The milk crates solution rocks!

Well it does in the sense that it's virtually theft proof and sturdy. The
center of gravity is a bit high.

I've got a set of those open top cordura shopping baskets that hang from
your rack (nashbar has 'em for under a twenty) and they work great.

If I'm going to be on and off my bike a lot with an under 20lb. load in
the city, I usually just grab my ginormous timbuk2 messenger bag--a little
uncomfortable, but efficient.
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Maxo 15 March 2005 23:22:31 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:17:50 -0800, Kev wrote:
You could try those smaller panniers that are attached to a carry> hook that straps on top of the rack and you can use velcro to snap it on> or off. and you can carry it like a plastic bag with straps. :)­

Yeah those are great--similar to what everybody in Amsterdam uses which is
basically just old fashioned saddle bags of nylon or canvas that hang over
the top of the rack with a handle in the middle instead of having to be
"clipped" on.

I wouldn't mind a set of those myself...
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Tom Keats 16 March 2005 01:20:53 permanent link ]
 In article <1110899645.436489.­58000@o13g2000cwo.go­oglegroups.com>,
"Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretar­ial.com> writes:
First I have to figure out what a> pannier is. ;-)­

It's a cargo-carrying thing that attaches to either a
rear or front rack on a bike. Sometimes they're single
units, but panniers often come as pairs.

The next thing is to figure out how to pronounce it.
I go along with 'PAN-year'.

For pronouncing 'coyote' I opt for the British Columbia
interior's colloquial 'KY-oot'.

Getting back on topic, I think the Original Poster of this
thread would be best served by either the milk crate and
backpack combination suggested by Peter Cole, or perhaps
by one of those removable rack trunks that converts into a
backpack. Panniers can be a hassle with the attaching and
removing that would be necessary with parking bike at a school.

One advantage of milk crates over panniers or rack trunks is,
you can pack a small or large (but not medium) take-out pizza.


cheers,
Tom

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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 16 March 2005 02:59:18 permanent link ]
 On 3/15/2005 1:20 PM Tom Keats wrote:

One advantage of milk crates over panniers or rack trunks is,> you can pack a small or large (but not medium) take-out pizza.

I reckon that the ability to carry a pizza should be a minimum requirement.
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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 16 March 2005 03:10:30 permanent link ]
 On 3/15/2005 4:56 AM Peter Cole wrote:

I think the milk-crate-strapped­(bolted)-to-rack is the best overall> solution.

It seems the only place that I can find REAL milk-crates -- the truly
sturdy heavy-duty kinda waxy plastic ones that humans can't break -- are
in stacks behind food stores and are stamped "PROPERTY OF SAFEWAY
STORES. THE GUY WHO OWNS THIS BIKE STOLE IT."

The ones available for sale, in places like Target, are made of the same
stuff that Revelle models are made of and will shatter if you give them
a sharp look.

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Tom Keats 16 March 2005 05:23:43 permanent link ]
 In article <oaidnfy1ZbDs9qrfRV­n-og@adelphia.com>,
"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott" <j.michael.elliottA­T@REMOVETHEOBVIOUSgm­ailDOT.com> writes:> On 3/15/2005 4:56 AM Peter Cole wrote:>
I think the milk-crate-strapped­(bolted)-to-rack is the best overall>> solution. >
It seems the only place that I can find REAL milk-crates -- the truly > sturdy heavy-duty kinda waxy plastic ones that humans can't break -- are > in stacks behind food stores and are stamped "PROPERTY OF SAFEWAY > STORES. THE GUY WHO OWNS THIS BIKE STOLE IT."

White lettering on red plastic? Get a red felt-tipped pen
and blot out some of the words so it says: " "PROPERTY OF
THE GUY WHO OWNS THIS BIKE." Or just cover whatever words
are on there with duct tape, reflective tape, or "One Less
Car" stickers.

In Vancouver, liquor store loading bays seem to be a good
source of nondescript, heavy-duty milk crates.

Black crates go with anything.


cheers,
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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 16 March 2005 05:39:03 permanent link ]
 On 3/15/2005 5:23 PM Tom Keats wrote:
In article <oaidnfy1ZbDs9qrfRV­n-og@adelphia.com>,>­ "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott" <j.michael.elliottA­T@REMOVETHEOBVIOUSgm­ailDOT.com> writes:>
On 3/15/2005 4:56 AM Peter Cole wrote:>>
I think the milk-crate-strapped­(bolted)-to-rack is the best overall>>>solution.­ >>
It seems the only place that I can find REAL milk-crates -- the truly >>sturdy heavy-duty kinda waxy plastic ones that humans can't break -- are >>in stacks behind food stores and are stamped "PROPERTY OF SAFEWAY >>STORES. THE GUY WHO OWNS THIS BIKE STOLE IT.">
White lettering on red plastic? Get a red felt-tipped pen> and blot out some of the words so it says: " "PROPERTY OF> THE GUY WHO OWNS THIS BIKE." Or just cover whatever words> are on there with duct tape, reflective tape, or "One Less> Car" stickers.>
In Vancouver, liquor store loading bays seem to be a good> source of nondescript, heavy-duty milk crates.>
Black crates go with anything.

Surely you are not advocating that I /steal/ them. That would be wrong.

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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 16 March 2005 05:40:05 permanent link ]
 On 3/15/2005 5:41 PM Tom Keats wrote:

Tilted pie is a catastrophe.

I'm printing that on a t-shirt.

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Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
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Tom Keats 16 March 2005 05:41:38 permanent link ]
 In article <G8-dnYLvAe1R9arfRV­n-sg@adelphia.com>,
"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott" <j.michael.elliottA­T@REMOVETHEOBVIOUSgm­ailDOT.com> writes:> On 3/15/2005 1:20 PM Tom Keats wrote:>
One advantage of milk crates over panniers or rack trunks is,>> you can pack a small or large (but not medium) take-out pizza.>
I reckon that the ability to carry a pizza should be a minimum requirement.

A small pizza box plops right inside the crate. A large one
sits nicely on top, where it can be bungee'd down. But a
medium one goes in at an angle. Tilted pie is a catastrophe.


cheers,
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Mark 16 March 2005 07:51:54 permanent link ]
 
"Michael Elliott" wrote...>
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting> nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup> for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach> easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?

A messenger bag would hold your books and pass quite nicely as a messenger
bag.

In all seriousness, I've been commuting with a Critical Mass bag from
Patagonia for almost a year now, and a Canadian made messenger bag for a
couple years before that. The "T" strap suspension works better while riding
a bicycle than any backpack I've cycled with, and it makes a great shoulder
bag when I'm not on the bike. The newer Critical Mass bags apparently have a
pocket for a laptop, which could be nice for a student.
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mark


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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 16 March 2005 18:18:07 permanent link ]
 On 3/15/2005 10:47 PM Tom Keats wrote:
Milk crates on bikes are not to be taken lightly.>
They're to be taken with gusto, guile and maybe> something else I can't think of right now that> starts with 'g'.

A grimace? Poems by Allen Ginsberg? Vice Grips? Girl Scouts?

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Maxo 16 March 2005 21:44:54 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:58:17 -0800, Tom Keats wrote:
If beer cans were available in milk crate height

Ohhh, such sweet fantasy!

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Tom Keats 16 March 2005 23:38:20 permanent link ]
 In article <1110982375.869064.­36820@z14g2000cwz.go­oglegroups.com>,
"Peter Cole" <peter_cole@comcast­.net> writes:
Yeah, it's a mystery of life -- I don't know where my collection of> crates actually came from.

I think one common source is from helping friends move.
The movee unpacks, settles in, wants to get rid of the
exteraneous flotsam & jetsam, and offers their crates
and whatever else to any takers. The helpers then
think of their falling-over stacks of softcover books
in their basements and say, "Sure. I'll take a couple."
I bet a lot of crates are similarly inherited. Maybe
they initially enter the public domain by people
bringing them home from their places of work.


cheers,
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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 17 March 2005 00:20:33 permanent link ]
 On 3/15/2005 7:51 PM mark wrote:
"Michael Elliott" wrote...>
I have a beater bike with an aluminum rear rack. The weather is getting>>nice and I'd like to use it to commute to school. What's a nice setup>>for carrying school books, etc., on a bike? Something that can detach>>easily and pass as a backpack or messenger bag?>
A messenger bag would hold your books and pass quite nicely as a messenger> bag.

I reckon I left myself wide open for that one.
In all seriousness, I've been commuting with a Critical Mass bag from> Patagonia for almost a year now, and a Canadian made messenger bag for a> couple years before that.

I have a Canadian bag coming that appears to be nicely made. Thanks for
the pointer to the Patagonia bag. A rhetorical question: who the heck
thinks up names like "critical mass" for things like messenger bags?
Friggin word salad: throw a bunch of words in a bowl and pull out two.

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Tom Keats 17 March 2005 00:34:58 permanent link ]
 In article <pan.2005.03.17.17.­42.34.529468@nospamh­ome.se>,
maxo <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se­> writes:> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:58:17 -0800, Tom Keats wrote:>
If beer cans were available in milk crate height>
Ohhh, such sweet fantasy!

I don't have any beer cans available, but 2 stacked
similarly-sized Coke cans aren't high enough. Neither
are WaggleDance, Ebulum Elderberry Black Ale, or
Old Peculier bottles. A Guzano Rojo mezcal bottle
might be.


cheers,
Tom


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Tom Sherman 17 March 2005 05:13:54 permanent link ]
 Peter Cole wrote:
...> Yeah, it's a mystery of life -- I don't know where my collection of> crates actually came from. The good thing is that they're old enough> that the "Property of" label refers to defunct enterprises. I did see a> very pristine one on the roadside a few weeks ago, I regret not> snatching it. There must be some legitimate source of these for people> with delicate consciences.

Industrial strength crates in several sizes:
<http://www.mcmaste­r.com/ctlg/DisplCtlg­Page.asp?ReqTyp=CATA­LOG&CtlgPgNbr=1583&C­tlgEdition=&sesnextr­ep=507868827069951&S­creenWidth=1024&McMM­ainWidth=817>.

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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 17 March 2005 05:59:26 permanent link ]
 On 3/16/2005 5:13 PM Tom Sherman wrote:
Peter Cole wrote:

Hot dog, now yer talkin'!

McMaster-Carr . . . is there nothing they don't have?

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Maxo 17 March 2005 06:57:50 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:34:58 -0800, Tom Keats wrote:
In article <pan.2005.03.17.17.­42.34.529468@nospamh­ome.se>,> maxo <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se­> writes:>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:58:17 -0800, Tom Keats wrote:>>
If beer cans were available in milk crate height>>
Ohhh, such sweet fantasy!>
I don't have any beer cans available, but 2 stacked> similarly-sized Coke cans aren't high enough. Neither> are WaggleDance, Ebulum Elderberry Black Ale, or> Old Peculier bottles. A Guzano Rojo mezcal bottle> might be.>
cheers,> Tom

I vote for a small pride of 750ml Corsendonk bottles.

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Tom Keats 17 March 2005 08:40:13 permanent link ]
 In article <pan.2005.03.18.02.­55.27.86353@nospamho­me.se>,
maxo <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se­> writes:
I vote for a small pride of 750ml Corsendonk bottles.

Those big Ranier Ale ("The Green Death") bottles might
work, too. But then I'd have to go Stateside for a
medium-sized pizza, and it'll get cold by the time I'd
get it home. Riding to the Peace Arch border crossing
from Vancouver is a circuitous PITA, unless one wants
to spend busfare (the buses have bike racks) just to go
through a stupid tunnel where cycling is prohibited.
After all that, one might as well get a large pizza
anyway.

So Corsendonk it is. Or those big plastic bottles of
(ugh) Watney's.


cheers,
Tom

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Mark 17 March 2005 08:49:36 permanent link ]
 
"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott">
I reckon I left myself wide open for that one.>
Sorry, I really couldn't resist.> >
In all seriousness, I've been commuting with a Critical Mass bag from> > Patagonia for almost a year now, and a Canadian made messenger bag for a> > couple years before that.>
I have a Canadian bag coming that appears to be nicely made. Thanks for> the pointer to the Patagonia bag. A rhetorical question: who the heck> thinks up names like "critical mass" for things like messenger bags?> Friggin word salad: throw a bunch of words in a bowl and pull out two.>
Inspired by Critical Mass bicycle rides, in which crowds of cyclists take to
the streets to either disrupt rush hour traffic or demonstrate the
superiority of bicycle commuting, depending on who you ask. At least I hope
it has nothing to do with self sustaining nuclear fission.
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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott 17 March 2005 18:46:33 permanent link ]
 On 3/16/2005 8:49 PM mark wrote:
"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott">
I reckon I left myself wide open for that one.>>
Sorry, I really couldn't resist.>
In all seriousness, I've been commuting with a Critical Mass bag from>>>Patagonia for almost a year now, and a Canadian made messenger bag for a>>>couple years before that.>>
I have a Canadian bag coming that appears to be nicely made. Thanks for>>the pointer to the Patagonia bag. A rhetorical question: who the heck>>thinks up names like "critical mass" for things like messenger bags?>>Friggin word salad: throw a bunch of words in a bowl and pull out two.>>
Inspired by Critical Mass bicycle rides, in which crowds of cyclists take to> the streets to either disrupt rush hour traffic or demonstrate the> superiority of bicycle commuting, depending on who you ask.

<grins sheepishly> I shoulda known that.

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Mike Kruger 18 March 2005 06:53:11 permanent link ]
 "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
<j.michael.elliottA­T@REMOVETHEOBVIOUSgm­ailDOT.com> wrote in>
It seems the only place that I can find REAL milk-crates --
the truly> sturdy heavy-duty kinda waxy plastic ones that humans can't
break -- are> in stacks behind food stores and are stamped "PROPERTY OF
SAFEWAY> STORES. THE GUY WHO OWNS THIS BIKE STOLE IT.">
The ones available for sale, in places like Target, are made
of the same> stuff that Revelle models are made of and will shatter if
you give them> a sharp look.>
For the most part, that's right. I did get a number of them a
few ago that were just as strong as "real" milk crates.
Unfortunately, I got them at Woolworth's, which is no longer
an option.

Rummage sales are a good place to find this sort of thing.
Just buy one from a defunct dairy, so it would no longer
matter if it was originally stolen.


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Maxo 23 March 2005 10:29:04 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:16:27 +0000, Tom Parker wrote:
It's not as large as a milk crate, but I'm pretty happy with my Wald> #582 folding metal basket, that attaches to a rear rack. It folds> down to about an inch, when not needed. Available at many> online bike places ... even Amazon has them: http://tinyurl.com/­4r7lx>
- Tom

I used one of those for years on a city bike. They're great. You can clamp
them on to make em hard to steal, and they fit a paper grocery bag
perfectly.

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