Tuesday, 24 June 2008
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| Re: 20 yr old Argentine rugby player dies due to collapsed maul ot Dechucka 10:46:32 |
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Oh just noticed you cross-posted this thread to rec.sport.cricket. For what
possible reason did you do this. It was a conscious decision so why?
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| Asia cup in the USA Gireesh Bhat 03:55:28 |
| | The Asia Cup will be shown for free (for those eligible) live at
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| Re: The Problem with Soccer OT Dechucka 00:20:42 |
| | Is that it is OT to this ng
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Monday, 23 June 2008
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| Re: Something like an antitrust law for BCCI? Mike Holmans 23:13:32 |
| | On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT), jzfredricks
<jzfredricks@gmail.com> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:
On Jun 23, 7:27am, Brijesh <brijesh.khergam...@gmail.com> wrote: How can they blatantly dictate who is allowed to play and who is not for the English counties? They aren't doing that. My prediction is Aus will hand down this rule; "ICL players cannot play in the T20CL, but a team who qualified using ICL players can". To that effect.
I certainly hope that's what they say.
The IPL teams will be without Hayden and Hussey, engaged elsewhere
with Australia, so it's already clear that the teams which play in the
CL will not have the same players as the ones they qualified with;
there's therefore no reason why a county shouldn't turn up with a
different squad to the one which won the final. If the ICL players are
unavailable for whatever reason, so be it.
There is one simple way out of the problem for 2008, of course, which
is for Middlesex and Somerset to be the two teams qhich qualify from
England, because neither county has any ICL players.
Ofc, this means that cricketers will have this choice; 1) Cancel their ICL contracts 2) In the future lose their County contracts, as why would a County team want to spend time and $ on someone who cannot play in the T20CL? Either way, the player loses the chance to earn money from a source. Restraint of trade? Ask a lawyer. If I had to guess, I'd say what they are doing is JUST legal, and very very un-nice.
If an ICL-contaminated team qualifies from England and its ICL
player(s) banned from the CL, the ICL have already indicated that they
will sue. The interesting question is then whom they will sue and in
what jurisdiction, and what remedy they intend to seek.
If a player were to sue his county in the English courts on restraint
of trade, the chances are that he'd win - given that it was earlier
legal action which forced the ECB to drop the ban on ICL players. But
I can't see what the courts could make a county do other than hand
over money, since it isn't a competition being played in England nor
is it organised by an English entity.
It seems to me that they would have to sue the BCCI in the Indian
courts to have any hope of a successful case having any worthwhile
effect. Since I know nothing of Indian law on restraint of trade, I
have no idea how successful they could hope to be.
Cheers,
Mike
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| Re: Austrian Confines His Kids, Fathers Children with them Hoover 20:46:26 |
| | austria dude, not australia
"Pauli G" <rioroad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 28, 6:37 pm, "Hoover" <hoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Truly one screwed up guy - bet he belongs to the Austrian liberal party.
yet another unfortunate black eye for the land down under. a sad day
for a peaceloving people who only wish to be left alone to farm and
hunt kangeroos
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| Re: Baseball switch hitting Jj 08:26:49 |
| | You need to get a life. Your whole life seems to revolve around this
switching hands thing. You post everyday on this topic.
There is more to both cricket & life than this.
"jzfredricks" <jzfredricks@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Just saw this, it's kinda funny;
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| Re: Bowlers switching hands/sides King Of Pain 07:48:03 |
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"tendulkar.com" <tendulkar.com@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Should be allowed. Two most common reasons givens are i) Where does the non-striker stand? Non-Issue. Non Striker standing just outside the pitch on the natural bowling-arm side allows plenty of room for the bowler. Make a rule that non striker stands 1 or two feet from the pitch. If bowlers still can't find room to switch, well tough luck.
I am not sure why there is a parallel drawn between batsmen and bowlers.
Bowlers don't get sightscreens, batsmen are not limited in terms of number
of balls faced and so on...
Why does a batsman switch hitting have anything to do with a bowler being
able to switch sides or hands?
I do understand the concerns about the LBW law which IMO is clear, but
perhaps unfair to the bowler when the batsman switches hands and could use
revision since I am fairly sure the law was not constructed with switch
hitters in mind.
Cheers!
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| Cricket columnist Mike Selvey questions the legality of Kevin Pietersen's
strokes Villanova 07:15:50 |
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http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvnz/content/current/story/355007.html
Pietersen's about-turn
MCC meets to discuss improvisation
Cricinfo staff
June 16, 2008
The MCC, the guardians of cricket's laws, will discuss the legality of
the shots played by Kevin Pietersen during the first ODI against New
Zealand at Chester-le-Street when they meet at Lord's on Tuesday. In the
course of his match-winning century, Pietersen twice switched his grip
and stance to hit Scott Styris for six, essentially turning from a right
to a left-hand batsman, while the bowler was approaching the crease.
A meeting to discuss issues such as grip changes and reverse-sweeps had
been requested by the ICC last month before yesterday's events.
"The ICC has asked the MCC to look at it and make a recommendation," the
MCC's Abi Carter told AP, adding that they had the power to make a
recommendation within hours of meeting. An actual change to the laws,
however, would need more consultation.
"Yes, it is on the agenda but it won't change overnight," an MCC
spokesman told Cricinfo.
Pietersen was clear that he believed the strokes were quite legal.
"Reverse-sweeps have been part of the game for however long," he said.
"I am just fortunate that I can hit it a bit further. Everybody wants
brand new ideas, new inventions and that's a new shot. Nobody has seen
it before.
"There's new things happening to cricket at the moment and people are
criticising all the time," he said. "There should just be positives
about all the stuff that's happening."
Even Daniel Vettori, New Zealand's captain, approved. "It's amazing to
see and I think it's really good for the game that batsmen have the
skill to do that. The only thing I would say about it is that if you're
going to bat left-handed then I think to even it up for the bowlers you
should have both sides of the wide line. That would bring your skill
into play and the wicketkeeper's skill into play, if a batsman wants to
change then it should be fair for both ball and batsmen."
Not everyone at Chester-le-Street was convinced of the merits of the
stroke however. The Guardian cricket correspondent, Mike Selvey -
himself a former fast bowler - wrote: "Astounding and audacious strokes
these may have been but there is something not quite right about their
provenance. It poses a number of questions. Should the batsman be
obliged to declare if he is playing right- or left-handed? The bowler
has to. Vettori and the bowler would have wanted to change his field
setting had he known of the reversal. Had Styris fired the ball away to
the right of the stumps, would that have constituted a leg-side wide?
"And where does the umpire stand with the lbw law in all this?" asked
Selvey. "Which is leg stump and which is off? Would a slip, a gully and
backward point, say, constitute three men behind on the leg side and so
render the delivery a no-ball? Given the early stage at which Pietersen
revised his stance, Styris could have stopped his run-up and started
again."
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| Re: its 25 years now... Steven Davies-Morris 05:59:17 |
| | tendulkar.com wrote:
[snip]
If you consider all these, 175* is the all-time greatest knock in Indian cricket and if IPL changes the way cricket is played, I would even go further and say, "one of the most significant knocks in the history of cricket" Looking at the opposition and bowlers is a one-dimensional way to measure the impact of historical events.
I can't say I know much about it, other than what I've just read, but
it appears to be one of hte greatest ODI innings ever, if not the best
(these things being subjective). Having said that, 175* under those
circumstances, is surely in the stand-up-and-salute-a-hero category of
knocks, regardless of who, what, when, why, etc.
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| Substitute fielder Aslam Siddiqui 03:12:00 |
| | The scorecard on the Cricinfo site for the just completed England-New
Zealand Limited-overs International match shows WTS Porterfield as
having made a substitute catch for England. A player by the same name
and initials has appeared 23 times for Ireland. Are both the same
person? Has he somehow qualified for England?
aslam
GO CUBS!!!
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| Re: Great, it took a yaapie to show the Black Craps (TM) Craig Sutton 00:25:35 |
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"Crapats (TM)" <crapats007@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Nicely done Crapiot (TM).
Rats, he has done nothing to earn his CRAP title yet. So retract that until
he stuffs up.
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Sunday, 22 June 2008
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| Re: Switch hitting to be the new norm? Steven Davies-Morris 23:39:58 |
| | Phil. wrote:
On Jun 19, 9:01 pm, Mike Holmans <m...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:09:03 -0700 (PDT), Market Theory <qem...@yahoo.co.uk> tapped the keyboard and brought forth: (*) How much of an advantage for the bowling team would it be if the restriction against placing more than two fielders in the quadrant of the field behind square leg were dropped? Wouldn't the modern laws restricting short-pitched bowling preclude a classical bodyline Why do you want to bring bodyline into it? The legislation on behind-square fielders was nothing to do with bodyline, which had happened 25 years before the Law was changed. What caused the Law change at the end of the 1950s was that cricket had become incredibly boring. The standard bowler sent down quick-medium inswingers pitched on middle and cramping the batsman up. Nobody ever played any shots because they would be caught if they miscued even slightly. Two runs an over was quite good going. So it would be a massive advantage to the bowling team to revert to the pre-1957 Law, and a huge turn-off for spectators. You really, really don't want to change that Law again. I emailed to point this out to the guys who wrote the CI piece about changes in the Laws yesterday, they had erroneously stated that the Law re leg side fielders was changed in 1934 as a consequence of Bodyline. I've not heard back from them yet.
That one is a very commonly-held misconception.
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| Re: awesome Gokrix 12:45:54 |
| | Andrew Dunford wrote:> "Larry de Silva" <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> wrote:>
"Southpaw" <arbit00@yahoo.com> wrote:> Sri Lankan coach Steve Rixon>> Sorry dude but to my knowledge, Steve Rixon has never coached Sri Lanka.> These blokes with big moustaches all look the same.> <snip>> Andrew>
Moustache-ist!!!
--GS
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| Re: Pakistan Reports Problems Steven Davies-Morris 08:24:22 |
| | Shikari Shambhu wrote:
Pakistani news channels are reporting that the drug sniffing dogs at a Pakistani airport suddenly went crazy. Authorities are investigating further. In an unrelated news, Md. Asif returned to Pakistan today.
Very droll! Nicely done! [applause]
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| Left arm dibbly dobbly? King Of Pain 06:31:52 |
| | I am trying to think of one and am coming up short. I can think of several
in the Mullally category, but none in the Styris category. Help?
Cheers!
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Saturday, 21 June 2008
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| 300 for 20 wkts and low SR in an ODI Aslam Siddiqui 22:23:39 |
| | Here is a list of Limited-overs International matches in which both
sides combined to score at least 300 runs at a low scoring rate. The
first column gives the combined scoring rate and the number of balls
bowled in the match is in the second.
Runs/
6-Bs Balls
3.03 640 Ind (183) v WI (140) Lord's Jun 25, 1983
3.27 585 Ind (162) v NZ (157) Perth Dec 9, 1980
3.38 581 SAf (190) v WI (137) Port-of-Spain May 12, 2001
3.41 585 SL (172) v Pak (160) Dambulla May 18, 2003
3.47 539 WI (178) v Zim (134) Perth Feb 2, 2001
3.50 638 WI (198) v Eng (174) Leeds May 28, 1980
3.51 582 Ind (204) v Net (136) Paarl Feb 12, 2003
3.53 556 Ind (191) v Pak (136) Toronto Sep 18, 1996
3.54 588 Pak (187) v SL (160) Colombo(RPS) Aug 24, 1994
3.55 578 NZ (182) v Eng (162) Bristol Jun 21, 2008
aslam
GO CUBS!!!
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| Re: What do we do? Jimmy 18:36:06 |
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"James McLaughlin" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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I'm only half listening to the ODO, because I'm losing interest at this point. We've just reached 50, but we're 5 wickets down. We're getting worse with each game, and I'm dreading what games 4 and 5 will bring. This tour has been bad enough that I would normally expect serious changes to the team. But I can't even see what they can do. I don't think we have any promising players that aren't on the tour. The cupboard is empty. They tried Bell and Sinclair, and they were both pretty bad under easier circumstances than these. I'm generally a pretty forgiving fan - I don't care too much if they lose, as long as they've had a decent go. But I'm just embarassed for the players at this point. The void between the teams is wide enough that I would see it as a form of sucess if someone could score a 50. In his latest diary, Ross Taylor talks about the tourist activities the team are participating in. Maybe they should spend less time shopping and watching Big Brother, and a bit more time in the nets? They need to engineer some form somehow. James
Mate I suggest you cheer on the All Blacks
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| Re: NZ: What do we do? The Old Fellow 14:43:41 |
| | James McLaughlin wrote:
I'm only half listening to the ODO, because I'm losing interest at this point. We've just reached 50, but we're 5 wickets down. We're getting worse with each game, and I'm dreading what games 4 and 5 will bring. This tour has been bad enough that I would normally expect serious changes to the team. But I can't even see what they can do. I don't think we have any promising players that aren't on the tour. The cupboard is empty. They tried Bell and Sinclair, and they were both pretty bad under easier circumstances than these. I'm generally a pretty forgiving fan - I don't care too much if they lose, as long as they've had a decent go. But I'm just embarassed for the players at this point. The void between the teams is wide enough that I would see it as a form of sucess if someone could score a 50. In his latest diary, Ross Taylor talks about the tourist activities the team are participating in. Maybe they should spend less time shopping and watching Big Brother, and a bit more time in the nets? They need to engineer some form somehow. James
Maybe they should follow the example of the English rugby team and go
fishing...
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| Re: Ignorance of the spirit and laws of cricket Dave B 00:48:44 |
| | As an umpire for the Liverpool and District Competition - an ECB Premier
League Pyramid set up - and IICUS member (part of the first ever BTEC
class for those of you in IICUS or the UK). I would have to say that you
are right mate: only a moron could not know how to handle this. The
batsman is playing a shot so he can't be out if it hits him outside
either off or leg stick so that takes care of that. Yes he could get hit
in line but whether its left leg or right is really immaterial - if you
can answer the fours basics with yes - ie fair ball, pitched offside (as
was when the ball was released!) or wicket-wicket, hit something other
than glove/bat, hitting the furniture - then it's marching orders time.
Wide ball is equally simple - no batsman can "manufacture" a wide - at
least if you as ump have a clue and know the Spirit as the bloke says -
so just as you can't create a wide by moving excessively to off or leg
respectively then the batsman can't do it by switching over. In fact, I
would say that switching would be a disadvantage to the batting side
since an ump (certainly I would) would less willing to give wides -
except for the ridiculous - than under normal circumstances. As for
fielding captains whinging about field settings being disrupted, well
boohoo. Wait a minute while I cry you a river because you have no idea
what you are there for. You set fields to get people out and if someone
works out a trick to foil your evil plot then more power to their elbow
and that comes from a lifelong slow left arm and number 11.
Dave B - bowlindavebrooks@hotmail.com
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Friday, 20 June 2008
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| Re: Kapil Dev erased Spaceman Spiff 22:11:06 |
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<gophergoon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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V for Vendetta Excerpts: An enormous, mural-like picture of Kapil Dev, side-on in his familiar pre-delivery leap, has been removed from the Punjab Cricket Association Stadium in Mohali...the latest in a series of steps taken by the BCCI to punish Kapil Dev for having joined the Zee-sponsored Indian Cricket League as chairman...
[snip]
oh wow, this is just incredibly petty and small minded.
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stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff
The pig go. Go is to the fountain. The pig put foot. Grunt. Foot in what?
ketchup. The dove fly. Fly is in sky. The dove drop something. The something
on the pig. The pig disgusting. The pig rattle. Rattle with dove. The dove
angry. The pig leave. The dove produce. Produce is chicken wing. With wing
bark. No Quack.
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/No,_We_Need_a_Neural_Network.aspx
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| Re: rsc-ians bay area meet? Steven Davies-Morris 21:39:04 |
| | prabhu_r77@hotmail.com wrote:
I will be in the bay area for a while and though I havent yet moved in my cricketing paraphernalia(books/DVDs) and the like, I'd like to know if any rsc-ians are keen for a meet up. Preferably sometime next month or august, a meet would be an opportunity to swap notes on all things cricket, temporarily exchange books or vids...I guess Vinay the hockey fan, steve and few other members are hereabouts.
I'm in Ventura County, just north of Los Angeles. A few hundred miles
south of where you'll be. But if you get down this way, give a shout.
You can come down and play a game in our friendly social/pub/Captain-
Scott's-XI-are-pretty-good league as a guest.
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| Re: ICC changes ODI conditions due to NZ-Eng rain out Mike Holmans 20:54:57 |
| | On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:01:25 -0700 (PDT), jzfredricks
<jzfredricks@gmail.com> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:
"ICC regulation 15.1 now reads: "The duration of the interval shall be agreed mutually by the umpires and both captains subject to no interval being of more than 30 minutes' duration or less than 10 minutes' duration." That's good to see. I just can't work out why they aren't more proactive on these issues.
Playing condition observed to be not working on one day, playing
condition amended the next. How much more do you want?
You appear to be suggesting that the Playing Conditions should be
amended at any time anyone doesn't like them, which is not the point
of Playing Conditions (or Laws, for that matter).
Cheers,
Mike
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| Australia's openers for next Test Will_s 20:05:43 |
| | Ok the next Test is a while away but if Hayden is fit who do you drop ?
Has anyone ever been dropped after scoring a century in his last two Test
matches ?
Then you have then incumbent opener who scores a century in his last match
so does he get dropped ?
Personally I dont like either Jaques or Katich but they have the runs on
the board.
My solution :
Hayden
Jaques
Katich to 3
Ponting to 4
Hussey
Clarke ( in as a spinning allrounder )
Symonds ( in as allrounder )
Haddin
and then 3 pace bowlers
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