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silly Shane Warne

Robbert ter Hart 11 May 2005 14:13:19
 From Cricinfo:

Warne has also been assisting Pietersen - and indirectly England - by
telling him the side's weaknesses. "He thinks the best way for England to
beat them is by blooding some young players who aren't brainwashed," he told
the paper. "He says he knows he'll knock Graham Thorpe over, for instance,
and that maybe England should choose some batters who aren't used to being
dominated by Australia."

Blooding young players. Yeah, great idea! Let's get rid of all those old
farts, like Vaughan. And Strauss and Key and Bell.

With the exception of Thorpe, how many English bantsmen that are used to
being dominated bij Australia does Warne think he will be facing?

Cheers,

RtH


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Will S 11 May 2005 16:03:08 permanent link ]
 
"Robbert ter Hart" <rterhart@spj.nl> wrote in message
news:4281dabf$0$606­29$e4fe514c@news.xs4­all.nl...> From Cricinfo:>
Warne has also been assisting Pietersen - and indirectly England - by> telling him the side's weaknesses. "He thinks the best way for England to> beat them is by blooding some young players who aren't brainwashed," he > told> the paper. "He says he knows he'll knock Graham Thorpe over, for instance,> and that maybe England should choose some batters who aren't used to being> dominated by Australia.">
Blooding young players. Yeah, great idea! Let's get rid of all those old> farts, like Vaughan. And Strauss and Key and Bell.>
With the exception of Thorpe, how many English bantsmen that are used to> being dominated bij Australia does Warne think he will be facing?>
Cheers,>


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Jonivar Skullerud 11 May 2005 16:38:19 permanent link ]
 "Robbert ter Hart" <rterhart@spj.nl> writes:
From Cricinfo:>
Warne has also been assisting Pietersen - and indirectly England - by> telling him the side's weaknesses. "He thinks the best way for England to> beat them is by blooding some young players who aren't brainwashed," he told> the paper. "He says he knows he'll knock Graham Thorpe over, for instance,> and that maybe England should choose some batters who aren't used to being> dominated by Australia."

Yeah, and Thorpe is so used to being dominated by Australia that he
averages more against them (marginally) than his overall average.
Warne has dismissed him 9 times out of 31 innings.

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Alvey 12 May 2005 00:10:04 permanent link ]
 Mike Holmans wrote:

snip
It is a comforting mantra that the long-time Australian players are> reciting,
<snip>

More "effective" than "comforting" I'd opine Michael.
Anyone from the Ozcamp only has to utter it once and; the media shout
it, the pom players start to worry about these things and Engfans dig up
stats to prove it's wrong on some irrelevant point.

Who do reckon profits out of this activity?



alvey
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Colin Lord 12 May 2005 06:55:28 permanent link ]
 
<awatson2@bigpond.n­et.au> wrote in message
news:1115852431.962­460.192150@g44g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..> lets see how Strauss waltzes when he faces Warne and McGrath

Been working on that one for long?


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Mike Holmans 12 May 2005 11:54:40 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 12 May 2005 02:55:28 GMT, "Colin Lord"
<drsmith@lostinspac­e.com> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:
<awatson2@bigpond.­net.au> wrote in message >news:1115852431.96­2460.192150@g44g2000­cwa.googlegroups.com­...>> lets see how Strauss waltzes when he faces Warne and McGrath>
Been working on that one for long? >

If you count the remedial reading lessons required before watto could
copy it out of the Telegraph-Mirror, several years I should think.

Cheers,

Mike
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Mad Hamish 12 May 2005 14:12:07 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 12 May 2005 02:55:28 GMT, "Colin Lord"
<drsmith@lostinspac­e.com> wrote:
<awatson2@bigpond.­net.au> wrote in message >news:1115852431.96­2460.192150@g44g2000­cwa.googlegroups.com­...>> lets see how Strauss waltzes when he faces Warne and McGrath>
Been working on that one for long? >
Not long enough, another 20 years and it might have been worth posting
if they were still playing
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Rob 13 May 2005 00:46:06 permanent link ]
 
"Robbert ter Hart" <rterhart@spj.nl> wrote in message
news:4281dabf$0$606­29$e4fe514c@news.xs4­all.nl...> From Cricinfo:>
Warne has also been assisting Pietersen - and indirectly England - by> telling him the side's weaknesses. "He thinks the best way for England to> beat them is by blooding some young players who aren't brainwashed," he > told> the paper. "He says he knows he'll knock Graham Thorpe over, for instance,> and that maybe England should choose some batters who aren't used to being> dominated by Australia.">
Blooding young players. Yeah, great idea! Let's get rid of all those old> farts, like Vaughan. And Strauss and Key and Bell.>
With the exception of Thorpe, how many English bantsmen that are used to> being dominated bij Australia does Warne think he will be facing?>
Cheers,>
Maybe Warne's worried the current England crop might be too much for the
Aussies. All of these soundbites flying seem pointless - incredible to
think there's still 2 months before the real stuff starts.


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Andrew Dunford 13 May 2005 04:08:52 permanent link ]
 
"Rob" <gofyself@wrong.add­ress.com> wrote in message
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"Robbert ter Hart" <rterhart@spj.nl> wrote in message> news:4281dabf$0$606­29$e4fe514c@news.xs4­all.nl...> > From Cricinfo:> >
Warne has also been assisting Pietersen - and indirectly England - by> > telling him the side's weaknesses. "He thinks the best way for England
beat them is by blooding some young players who aren't brainwashed," he> > told> > the paper. "He says he knows he'll knock Graham Thorpe over, for
instance,> > and that maybe England should choose some batters who aren't used to
being> > dominated by Australia."> >
Blooding young players. Yeah, great idea! Let's get rid of all those old> > farts, like Vaughan. And Strauss and Key and Bell.> >
With the exception of Thorpe, how many English bantsmen that are used to> > being dominated bij Australia does Warne think he will be facing?> >
Cheers,> >
Maybe Warne's worried the current England crop might be too much for the> Aussies. All of these soundbites flying seem pointless - incredible to> think there's still 2 months before the real stuff starts.

It might be handy if somebody could train the print media to not hold the
back page every time Warne draws breath.

Andrew


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Colin Lord 13 May 2005 04:41:28 permanent link ]
 
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.n­et> wrote in message
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"Rob" <gofyself@wrong.add­ress.com> wrote in message> news:igPge.1943$Pi3­.1762@newsfe4-win.nt­li.net...>>
"Robbert ter Hart" <rterhart@spj.nl> wrote in message>> news:4281dabf$0$606­29$e4fe514c@news.xs4­all.nl...>> > From Cricinfo:>> >
Maybe Warne's worried the current England crop might be too much for the>> Aussies. All of these soundbites flying seem pointless - incredible to>> think there's still 2 months before the real stuff starts.>
It might be handy if somebody could train the print media to not hold the> back page every time Warne draws breath.>
Andrew

Warne etc generates headlines, sells papers.
Headlines about Warne etc generate interest in Warne etc, increases their
marketability.
Headlines about cricket hype up the series, generate interest in the Ashes.
Hype/interest about the Ashes series, generates interest in games and higher
attendance.
More interest in the games generates more readership.

Seems to me Warne, Pieterson, the media and both cricket boards must be
loving this.


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Rob 13 May 2005 17:33:02 permanent link ]
 
"Colin Lord" <drsmith@lostinspac­e.com> wrote in message
news:YISge.1050$E7.­953@news-server.bigp­ond.net.au...>
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.n­et> wrote in message > news:3ei9nfF39onnU2­@individual.net...>>­
"Rob" <gofyself@wrong.add­ress.com> wrote in message>> news:igPge.1943$Pi3­.1762@newsfe4-win.nt­li.net...>>>
"Robbert ter Hart" <rterhart@spj.nl> wrote in message>>> news:4281dabf$0$606­29$e4fe514c@news.xs4­all.nl...>>> > From Cricinfo:>>> >
Maybe Warne's worried the current England crop might be too much for the>>> Aussies. All of these soundbites flying seem pointless - incredible to>>> think there's still 2 months before the real stuff starts.>>
It might be handy if somebody could train the print media to not hold the>> back page every time Warne draws breath.>>
Andrew>
Warne etc generates headlines, sells papers.> Headlines about Warne etc generate interest in Warne etc, increases their > marketability.> Headlines about cricket hype up the series, generate interest in the > Ashes.> Hype/interest about the Ashes series, generates interest in games and > higher attendance.> More interest in the games generates more readership.>
Seems to me Warne, Pieterson, the media and both cricket boards must be > loving this.>
True - so genuine cricket fans that know everything Warne says is rubbish
just have to put up with it I guess.


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Andrew Dunford 18 May 2005 10:12:28 permanent link ]
 
"watto" <awatson2@bigpond.n­et.au> wrote in message
news:1116396454.771­479.290550@g43g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..> Dont say you haven't been "warned"

About watt, o watt, are we being warned?

Andrew


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Mad Hamish 28 May 2005 06:55:40 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:46:06 GMT, "Rob" <gofyself@wrong.add­ress.com>
wrote:

Maybe Warne's worried the current England crop might be too much for the >Aussies. All of these soundbites flying seem pointless - incredible to >think there's still 2 months before the real stuff starts. >
Much more likely is the idea that it takes him no effort to say
something and has a chance of causing some doubt somewhere in the
chain.

Say, for example, that Thorpe fails in the first test. Do you think
that Warne's shots might well cause the press to go for him harder
than they would have otherwise?
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