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[Marginally OT] BBC shaping the news ?

Madhusudan Singh 10 April 2005 22:04:18
 Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a marked pro-Pakistan bias in BBC
reporting ?

More than two days after Pakistan beat India in the Jamshedpur ODI (which I
did not follow / watch), I am still getting that news in the daily email
service from BBC in the South Asia section. The Indian wins in the first
two ODIs got no such coverage (or rather, they got normal coverage -
prominent the next day, relegated the day after that). Even the placement
of Pakistan wins (compared to wins of their opponents) on the page tends to
be a lot more prominent (often frontpage on http://news.bcc.co.­uk). During
the Test series, the Pakistani draw and the win were hailed as brilliant,
while the Indian win got little such coverage, even through the teams are
nearly evenly matched, with India with a slight edge.

Unrelated to cricket, I read a report about Kashmir 3 weeks ago which
contained a subtle, but very noticeable comparative choice of phrase -
"Pakistan administered Kashmir" and "Indian controlled Kashmir". While they
maintained their skin-deep even handedness in the rest of the article, that
contrast is by itself pejorative in its implications, considering the
relative number of elections that have been held in these two parts of
Kashmir.

If one goes to one of the "Have your say" columns, I notice that the number
of Pakistani or expat Pakistani comments on a suitable issue sometimes
either matches or more often exceeds the number of Indian or Indian expat
comments. One does not need to be a mathematical genius to note that this
is downright wierd given the relative populations of the two countries and
their diaspora, and the fact that Internet usage has a far greater
penetration in India than it does in Pakistan.

That is all ignoring the fact that usually only the concilliatory Indian
comments make it through (which is strange), while a full range of
Pakistani opinion is allowed (as it should).

The BBC's heavy pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli bias has been known for
decades, but their apparent willingness to shape the news in a pro-Pakistan
fashion is somewhat new (last 2-3 years perhaps).

Its subtle, but noticeable. YMMV.
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Andrew Dunford 11 April 2005 01:46:32 permanent link ]
 
"Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@s­pam.invalid> wrote in message
news:42596a2a$0$794­55$14726298@news.sun­site.dk...> Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a marked pro-Pakistan bias in BBC> reporting ?>
More than two days after Pakistan beat India in the Jamshedpur ODI (which
did not follow / watch), I am still getting that news in the daily email> service from BBC in the South Asia section. The Indian wins in the first> two ODIs got no such coverage (or rather, they got normal coverage -> prominent the next day, relegated the day after that). Even the placement> of Pakistan wins (compared to wins of their opponents) on the page tends
be a lot more prominent (often frontpage on http://news.bcc.co.­uk). During> the Test series, the Pakistani draw and the win were hailed as brilliant,> while the Indian win got little such coverage, even through the teams are> nearly evenly matched, with India with a slight edge.

First the CI commentary was biased against India, now it's the BBC. What or
who will you target for the hat-trick?

<snip>

Andrew


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Gafoor 11 April 2005 02:55:19 permanent link ]
 Andrew Dunford wrote:> "Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@s­pam.invalid> wrote in message> news:42596a2a$0$794­55$14726298@news.sun­site.dk...>> Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a marked pro-Pakistan bias>> in BBC reporting ?>>
More than two days after Pakistan beat India in the Jamshedpur ODI>> (which I did not follow / watch), I am still getting that news in>> the daily email service from BBC in the South Asia section. The>> Indian wins in the first two ODIs got no such coverage (or rather,>> they got normal coverage - prominent the next day, relegated the day>> after that). Even the placement of Pakistan wins (compared to wins>> of their opponents) on the page tends to be a lot more prominent>> (often frontpage on http://news.bcc.co.­uk). During the Test series,>> the Pakistani draw and the win were hailed as brilliant, while the>> Indian win got little such coverage, even through the teams are>> nearly evenly matched, with India with a slight edge.>
First the CI commentary was biased against India, now it's the BBC.> What or who will you target for the hat-trick?

Well, your posts seem remarkably biased against both India &
Sri Lanka.


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Andrew Dunford 11 April 2005 03:11:59 permanent link ]
 
"Gafoor" <rrocky@bigfoot.com­> wrote in message
news:3btp6qF6ldqsuU­1@individual.net...>­ Andrew Dunford wrote:> > "Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@s­pam.invalid> wrote in message> > news:42596a2a$0$794­55$14726298@news.sun­site.dk...> >> Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a marked pro-Pakistan bias> >> in BBC reporting ?> >>
More than two days after Pakistan beat India in the Jamshedpur ODI> >> (which I did not follow / watch), I am still getting that news in> >> the daily email service from BBC in the South Asia section. The> >> Indian wins in the first two ODIs got no such coverage (or rather,> >> they got normal coverage - prominent the next day, relegated the day> >> after that). Even the placement of Pakistan wins (compared to wins> >> of their opponents) on the page tends to be a lot more prominent> >> (often frontpage on http://news.bcc.co.­uk). During the Test series,> >> the Pakistani draw and the win were hailed as brilliant, while the> >> Indian win got little such coverage, even through the teams are> >> nearly evenly matched, with India with a slight edge.> >
First the CI commentary was biased against India, now it's the BBC.> > What or who will you target for the hat-trick?>
Well, your posts seem remarkably biased against both India &> Sri Lanka.

Could you produce a list of meaningful statistics on that, please?

Andrew


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Gafoor 11 April 2005 03:21:52 permanent link ]
 Andrew Dunford wrote:> "Gafoor" <rrocky@bigfoot.com­> wrote in message> news:3btp6qF6ldqsuU­1@individual.net...>­> Andrew Dunford wrote:>>> "Madhusudan Singh" <spammers-go-here@s­pam.invalid> wrote in message>>> news:42596a2a$0$794­55$14726298@news.sun­site.dk...>>>> Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a marked pro-Pakistan bias>>>> in BBC reporting ?>>>>
More than two days after Pakistan beat India in the Jamshedpur ODI>>>> (which I did not follow / watch), I am still getting that news in>>>> the daily email service from BBC in the South Asia section. The>>>> Indian wins in the first two ODIs got no such coverage (or rather,>>>> they got normal coverage - prominent the next day, relegated the>>>> day after that). Even the placement of Pakistan wins (compared to>>>> wins of their opponents) on the page tends to be a lot more>>>> prominent (often frontpage on http://news.bcc.co.­uk). During the>>>> Test series, the Pakistani draw and the win were hailed as>>>> brilliant, while the Indian win got little such coverage, even>>>> through the teams are nearly evenly matched, with India with a>>>> slight edge.>>>
First the CI commentary was biased against India, now it's the BBC.>>> What or who will you target for the hat-trick?>>
Well, your posts seem remarkably biased against both India &>> Sri Lanka.>
Could you produce a list of meaningful statistics on that, please?

Please contact Mike Foolmans - he seems to have taken
over that job.
Here he putting somebody down with stats
http://groups-beta.­google.com/group/rec­.sport.cricket/msg/5­aa20244a7089050
or hyping somebody else.


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Jim Garner 11 April 2005 10:06:20 permanent link ]
 
(shariq_tariq@yahoo­.com) writes:> Madhusudan Singh wrote:>
As far as other things go I think BBC is relied upon by most people as> a solid, trustworthy and fair source of news


Well, there are those who think the BBC shapes the news in current
affairs, so maybe there are those who think the beeb's sports coverage is
biased too.

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Gafoor 11 April 2005 10:30:23 permanent link ]
 Jim Garner wrote:> Well, there are those who think the BBC shapes the news in current

What does that mean - "BBC shapes the news"?
affairs, so maybe there are those who think the beeb's sports> coverage is biased too.



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