"Vinay" <vinayd@hpl.hp.com> wrote in message news:d28icg$334$1@hplms2.hpl.hp.com...> What do folks on here think after today's display? I dont think he will > get longer rope now.
Ganguly made too many mistakes in this series despite 4 years at the helm of affairs of Indian cricket.
To list a few in this bangalore test
1) didn't bowl Sehwag or Sachin on D1 when Younis and Inzy built that mammoth partnership 2) sent pathan, harby and balaji ahead of kumble in I1, got it right in I2 but too late, the damage was done 3) didn't bowl balaji even after Afridi was out in I2 and persisted with kumble, harby and sachin 4) Asked sehwag and co to play for a draw from the outset on D5
"Southpaw" <arbit00@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1112008891.936599.81140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>
Vinay wrote:>> What do folks on here think after today's display? I dont think he> will get>> longer rope now.>
Goodbye Ganguly. As India fought to save the test, he played the fewest> number of deliveries of anyone from #1 to #11. Eventually India are> going fall short by an agonizing few minutes.>
If someone must take the rap, who else but the guy who contributed the> least?>
-Samarth.>
No......its all the fault of VVSL, Kumble and Balaji will be the final judgement from rscers.
<kshatriya4life@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1112009323.023219.269530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> The following Indian batsmen should be hanged> - Dravid,Sachin,Ganguly,Laxman>
VVSL consumed 170 deliveries and lot of time in I1 and scored 79 valuable runs. Dravid and Sachin won kolkata test with two centuries and two fifties.
Bangalore crowd congratulated ganguly with a placard that read "congratulations ganguly for doubling score from 1+1 =2"
cover [replace ganguly with Yuvraj in tests and VVSL in ODs] drive
"Cricketwallah" <cricketwallah@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1112039568.245397.267180@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...>
Southpaw wrote:> > Vinay wrote:> > > What do folks on here think after today's display? I dont think he> > will get> > > longer rope now.> >
Goodbye Ganguly. As India fought to save the test, he played the> fewest> > number of deliveries of anyone from #1 to #11. Eventually India are> > going fall short by an agonizing few minutes.> >
If someone must take the rap, who else but the guy who contributed> the> > least?> >
The rap might be true - but today was a hard day IMHO.>
Before the day began, it was clear that the lefties would> have the most bother IMHO - the rough was ridiculous, was> doing crazy things for Sachin yesterday even. The righties,> if defending, could just pad it away from the leggies - the> lefties obviously could not. This would leave them in> deep trouble IMHO.>
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Ganguly came in with pressure, and against Afridi out of> teh rough. He obviously didnt play a good shot to get out -> the ball was wideish of offstump, and he drove at it away> from his body (he should have, at worst, been trying to> defend that ball IMHO, covering up his stumps with soft> hands). But that ball did a whole heck of a lot too - it> was in the rough, and it turned literally square to take> his stumps. I dont think actually that Ganguly believed it> could turn that much, which is why he didnt walk despite> being bowled - he thought the keeper might have just knocked> off the bails and pretended, or else tried a stumping. He> was even looking back at the bigscreen as he walked away> to make sure. The ball turned a whole lot to get him> bowled there - very very hard delivery to play safely, out> of the rough, even if youre defending (but of course, with> attacking drive attempt, he had basically no chance of> keeping it out).>
Lefties had it really tough and that did not bode well for Dada. But, did he not play a pitch like this before? He looked novice. We wanted a Steve Waugh like performance from Ganguly. He failed miserably.
Me, I just think he should be removed from captaincy, no> hard feelnigs, replaced with Dravid - and then let him> fight for his test spot. Lots of ODIs now, he could get> form back. Short rope if he gets his form back when we> next play tests - if he fails in tests another time or two,> then replace him. But Iam not convinced Yuvraj or Kaif have> done enough knocking down doors with weight of runs to> push him out of a spot (Yuvraj hasnt anyway, Kaif hasnt> pushed open mousetrap door with *his* runs ever).>
If he wins the ODI series, keep him at the helm. If he loses it then it is time to remove him and move on.
As to what *will* happen in reality - depends on ODI series> to be played now, unfortunately.>
Sadiq [ we'll probably lose ODIs ] Yusuf>
-Samarth.>
I am hoping that India will come good in ODI series and thus Ganguly will save his job.
"Sanjiv Karmarkar" <s_karmarkar@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1112049696.731090.221370@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...> Cricketwallah wrote:>
The rap might be true - but today was a hard day IMHO.>
It is not just the last innings, where pretty much everyone failed, but> his performance and his attitude in the whole series IMO. I think> people get really pissed off if you fail *and* if you come off as if> you don't care. If he had just grafted for 2 hours, play and miss> about 100 balls, and got out on 25, it wouldn't look so bad. What> looked bad, in the final innings as well as every other innings, was> his carelessness and his lack of desire to go along with his aweful> form.>
Me, I just think he should be removed from captaincy, no>> hard feelings, replaced with Dravid - and then let him>> fight for his test spot. Lots of ODIs now, he could get>> form back.>
He will probably lose his spot in tests, and retain it for ODIs. I'll> be very surprised however if he kept his captaincy. Dravid it is.>
But Iam not convinced Yuvraj or Kaif have>> done enough knocking down doors with weight of runs to>> push him out of a spot (Yuvraj hasnt anyway, Kaif hasnt>> pushed open mousetrap door with *his* runs ever).>
Well, Yuvraj did have those two magnificent tons in Duleeps (was he> dropped during those innings?) although he did fail in both innings> against Mumbai. Kaif, as you say, has never done well. At least for> the tests, I believe Jadhav, Patel, and V. Rao have a done lot more to> snatch the spot away from Gangs, and VVSL better watch out as well!>
Sanjiv
VVSL will do much better if the damocle sword ganduly is axed from the team and VVSL elevated to #5 permanently in tests and #3 in ODs. Indian team will have perfect balance if VVSL plays at #5 and ganduly at #6 is replaced by Yuvraj or YV Rao in tests.
Selfish ganduly batting at #5 ahead of deserving VVSL was a costly mistake in Mohali and kolkata. He realized it in bangalore but it was too late.
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