Madhusudan Singh 28 March 2005 01:11:58 [ permanent link ]
Nikhil Shah wrote:
But frankly, the *fundamental* issue with Indian cricket> has been the conditions our bowlers face when playing> Test matches. So far in series, Pakistani bowlers have not> been able to bowl India out! The Indian bowlers also have
Incorrect obviously. Pakistan bowled India out at least twice so far in this series.
not been consistent unless the conditions have suited> them. We do not have the world class bowlers who can take> wickets in all conditions. With Ganguly unable to score> runs, this has not been a problem with Indian cricket,> his captaincy is priceless for Indian cricket and his> handling of bowlers could be the reason for India's> success.
Maybe. But Ganguly is in the team primarily as a batsman. And he needs to score against decent bowling attacks sometime soon.
No Indian captain has ever won more than 40% of the Test> matches we have played in the past and if we win> this -- it will be his 20th win in 47 Tests! True he may *not*
India are very unlikely to win T3. Even a draw looks tough.
get the credit for this win, but the legacy is quite remarkable.> The development of Gambhir, Balaji and Dinesh is quite> important and Ganguly's presence as a captain to retain> this young developing talent is important for Indian cricket.
I agree with this.
If Gambhir can stick it tommorow and India does not lose> we may have a very solid top order and Sachin, Laxman and> Ganguly may just have to complement this talent with quick> runs in the end and set things up for our bowlers, who> at times struggle in good batting conditions.
Er, I do not know if you are following the same match as me, but Pakistan have already batted twice.
The blooding of youngsters has to continue under Ganguly> who has already proven a big success. Imagine the careers> of Yuvraj, Kaif, Nehra, Pathan, Harby and Balaji where> would they be without Gangs? Ganguly has also been instrumental> in retaining Laxman and introducing Shewag as an opener> who nobody wanted to do the job!
Agreed.
In addition to retaining this Test unit for the upcoming> Zim tour, two players who are statistical leaders can be> rotated in the eleven based on form,>
1. Gagandeep Singh, has 174 wkts @ 19.75 in FC for Punjab> 2. Yashpal Singh, in 44 innings batting ave @ 63 for Services>
Both these are leaders in FC cricket and should rotate> into the team for injury or very poor form.
Maybe.
The performance of Irfan was unfortunately very disappointing> but he needs to be retain. As I have always harped on how> Nehra entered Test cricket with 169 wkts @ 23.49 FC record,> he has not been able to retain this in Test matches because> his FC record was characterized based on his ability to> swing and just like Irfan did in this series, tried to increase> his pace which lost his ability to move the ball laterally.
Likely.
Irfan is right now on the cross roads of his bowling action> and ability and should go back to his original ability> to regain his original touch..
"Nikhil Shah" <icchip_eng@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111956880.598216.48270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> After the conclusion of the Test series against Pak> the debate and arguments of retaining some players> in the Indian team along with Ganguly's captaincy> will surface as well as Ganguly's batting.>
But frankly, the *fundamental* issue with Indian cricket> has been the conditions our bowlers face when playing> Test matches. So far in series, Pakistani bowlers have not> been able to bowl India out! The Indian bowlers also have> not been consistent unless the conditions have suited> them. We do not have the world class bowlers who can take> wickets in all conditions. With Ganguly unable to score> runs, this has not been a problem with Indian cricket,> his captaincy is priceless for Indian cricket and his> handling of bowlers could be the reason for India's> success.
You will do very well if you take to writing fiction.
No Indian captain has ever won more than 40% of the Test> matches we have played in the past and if we win> this -- it will be his 20th win in 47 Tests! True he may *not*> get the credit for this win, but the legacy is quite remarkable.
7 of his test wins are against bangladesh and zimbabwe. Ganguly never won an away series in 4 years of captaincy with any major test playing nations despite having the best indian talent ever available in Indian history.
The development of Gambhir, Balaji and Dinesh is quite> important and Ganguly's presence as a captain to retain> this young developing talent is important for Indian cricket.
Ganguly never liked Dinesh Karthik and Balaji.
The blooding of youngsters has to continue under Ganguly> who has already proven a big success. Imagine the careers> of Yuvraj, Kaif, Nehra, Pathan, Harby and Balaji where> would they be without Gangs? Ganguly has also been instrumental> in retaining Laxman and introducing Shewag as an opener> who nobody wanted to do the job!>
Dumbest comments for the year 2005. Yuvraj hasn't been consistent, kaif is crap, pathan is over rated and balaji stormed back into the team with his performances and literally forced ganguly to keep him in the team. Ganguly has made VVS scapegoat for his lackluster performance as both batsman and captain and dumped him from last bangladesh tour.
In addition to retaining this Test unit for the upcoming> Zim tour, two players who are statistical leaders can be> rotated in the eleven based on form,>
1. Gagandeep Singh, has 174 wkts @ 19.75 in FC for Punjab> 2. Yashpal Singh, in 44 innings batting ave @ 63 for Services
"Lord Snooty" <lordus_snootus@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1111959886.871988.184020@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> The bottomline is that Ganguly is woefully out of form as a batsman and> he has to perform at some level of consistency to deserve a place in> the team. This is the first series in some time that he hasn't had a> single decent score - that doesnt mean he should be thrown out> immeditely - rather given an appropriate warning by> management/selectors so that he can redeem himself.> I wish he gets that chance to continue as he is the best captain India> has ever had.
Ganguly is not the best captain India ever had. Most of gangulys wins as captain were against sides that were at best average and on decline except Australia.
Wins against australia were achieved due to VVSL, Dravid, Harby, Sachin and kumble and may be agarkar in one test and has nothing to do with ganguly's tactics or strategy.
"Nikhil Shah" <icchip_eng@yahoo.com> wrote in message > Regards>
Nikhil>
Hi Nikhil,
I hear you are an olympian who represented India in table tennis. Very impressive I must say. I cant even imagine the level of talent it takes to do that. I used to play table tennis quite a bit, but never become very good at it - just hit a talent ceiling I guess. I wanted to ask you some questions:
1. What is the difference in talent levels between our top guys and guys like Jan ove waldner, persson etc? 2. How much better is the system in countries like China, Sweden etc as far as developing talent goes? 3. Who was the highest ranked player you ever played with? Have you played with some of the legends (Waldner?) 4. In your opinion, who is the best player in the world today? 5. Can you describe your training regimen when you were in the olympic team? 6. What isyour opinion of the up and coming players in India at the moment
Thanks very much, and looking forward to hearing from you. Vinay
