"JPD" <john_p_darcy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:42311731.155885633@news.bigpond.com...> What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket?> That is, the ten things which, either in game play or peripherally,> caused the most jaws to drop, eyes to open, etc; what are the top ten> bolts from the blue?>
I was once involved in a game, not in the backyard but in a proper> competition, where an opposition bowler completed a hat-trick against> us by dismissing the father, the son and the grandfather of the same> family. But this list is not about stuff like that - it is about> cricket in the public eye.
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A guy in our club last season took a triple hat-trick. 5 wickets in 5 balls. Unfortunately, it was the last five wickets, so he didn't get the opportunity to take it any further.
What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket? That is, the ten things which, either in game play or peripherally, caused the most jaws to drop, eyes to open, etc; what are the top ten bolts from the blue?
I was once involved in a game, not in the backyard but in a proper competition, where an opposition bowler completed a hat-trick against us by dismissing the father, the son and the grandfather of the same family. But this list is not about stuff like that - it is about cricket in the public eye.
My list, for debate, re-ordering and/or amendment:
10. Australia take only three New Zealand wickets on the first day of the Test match which immediately followed New Zealand being totally outclassed in five ODIs. (I just had to throw this one in, since it is the event which gave me the idea for this list).
9. With three wickets falling in the last over, including runouts from the last two balls, Australia snatch a Tie from the jaws of victory at Brisbane in December 1960. Tied matches were not unheard of in cricket, but had never before happened in Test matches and this one came from nowhere to capture, and retain to this day, the imagination of the cricket world.
8. India defeat West Indies by 43 runs at Lord's to win the 1983 World Cup. The winners were not a *bad* team, but the losers were rightly classed amongst the all-time greatest teams. To beat them once in this tournament was huge for India; to beat them again in the Final was astounding.
7. Australia defeat England by 7 runs at The Oval in 1882, winning a Test in England for the first time after a superb bowling performance by Fred Spofforth. England were believed to be invicible at home, in the same class-of-their-own as Australia is in the present day, and in spite of a successful tour overall the visitors were unfaniced in the Tes, and playing from behind right up until the end.
6. Thirty-five of the world's leading cricketers are revealed, in May 1977, to have signed contracts to play in Australia for a private promoter, Kerry Packer. Not that privately sponsored matches were anything new, but the scale and audacity of World Series Cricket caught every part of the cricket "establishment" on the back foot and threw cricket into a spin from which it did not recover until ... well, the book is still open on that one.
5. Alan Border, a very part-time bowler who had given himself the ball less and less after taking over the Australian captaincy, bags 7 for 46 at the SCG against West Indies in January 1989. Possibly the least tippable 7-fer in the history of sport, even if the batsmen did contribute to their own demise a fair bit.
4. Brian Lara, his glory days behind him so it seemed, recaptures the world record for highest Test score by surpassing Matthew Hayden's 380 a mere six months after it was chalked up, and registering the first 400 at the game's highest level.
3. With a surge of adrenaline on the last day, and overcoming a farcical attempt at unfair play by the home side, England come from behind to defeat Pakistan in a Test at Karachi in December 2000 and thus win the series, with (not the least remarkable aspect) Graeme Hick playing a matchwinning hand.
2. Don Bradman is bowled for 0 in his final Test innings at The Oval in 1948, needing only four runs to guarantee a Test average of 100. Bradman's story needs little retelling; suffice to say that his final tour of England was a triumph, and scoring 173 not out at Leeds a fortnight earlier had seemingly ensured the 100 average. He had been in good form between the 4th and 5th Tests, including 133 not out a few days earlier at Old Trafford; then come the Test in the blink of an eye he was gone.
And the Most Unexpected Event in Cricket History:
1. Admitted to Test cricket on the basis of little more than population and popularity, but without prospects, Bangladesh match it with and even outplay India for three days of their debut Test at Dhaka in November 2000. In due course, India asserted its class and the third innings (Bangladesh all out 91) was closer to expectations; but nobody, and I mean nobody, would have predicted in advance that the home side would score 400 and have India 5 for 190 with the great Tendulkar removed for a mere 18. The final result was amongst the Least Unexpected Events in Cricket History, but how the debutantes acquitted themselves so well (for part of the way) remains a mystery.
JPD wrote:> And the Most Unexpected Event in Cricket History:>
1. Admitted to Test cricket on the basis of little more than> population and popularity, but without prospects, Bangladesh match it> with and even outplay India for three days of their debut Test at> Dhaka in November 2000. In due course, India asserted its class and> the third innings (Bangladesh all out 91) was closer to expectations;> but nobody, and I mean nobody, would have predicted in advance that> the home side would score 400 and have India 5 for 190 with the great> Tendulkar removed for a mere 18. The final result was amongst the> Least Unexpected Events in Cricket History, but how the debutantes> acquitted themselves so well (for part of the way) remains a mystery.
Deep Point, our insider in the Indian team has answered this once
"JPD" <john_p_darcy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:42311731.155885633@news.bigpond.com...> What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket?> That is, the ten things which, either in game play or peripherally,> caused the most jaws to drop, eyes to open, etc; what are the top ten> bolts from the blue?>
I was once involved in a game, not in the backyard but in a proper> competition, where an opposition bowler completed a hat-trick against> us by dismissing the father, the son and the grandfather of the same> family. But this list is not about stuff like that - it is about> cricket in the public eye.>
My list, for debate, re-ordering and/or amendment:>
10. Australia take only three New Zealand wickets on the first day of> the Test match which immediately followed New Zealand being totally> outclassed in five ODIs. (I just had to throw this one in, since it> is the event which gave me the idea for this list).
Instead of this one, which really isn't that unexpected given that NZ for all their inconsistency and injury are a pretty solid test lineup when they want to be, I'd nominate NZ's first test win, beating a West Indian side featuring a dominant Weekes, that had destroyed New Zealand in all the previous tests and who had a better than even chance of winning the final match until dismissed for 77 in the fourth innings. There had, by the account in "Memorable Moments in New Zealand Sport", been considerations not long before of removing test status from NZ.
Now tell me ... what was the difference in the scores between the first>Ashes Test in 1877 and the Centenary Test in 1977?
Any number of differences. Only the final margin was the same in both matches.
- No Australian opener scored 100 in the Centenary Test - No Englishman scored 100 in the first Test - Australia's first innings lead in the first Tes was bigger (not much, though) - The leading Australian wicket taker of the first Test did not open the bowling in either innings - In the first Test, the Australian captain did not bowl - In the Centenary Test, there were two partnerships of 100 or more; in the first Test, there were none
Now tell me ... Tom Kendall took 8 for 109 in the first Test; what was his strike rate?
You are missing the sensational comeback of India in the Kolkata test against Australia. Winning a test after following on!! Only happened twice, Australia's been on the receiving end both times. India's victory was phenomenal.
Rushi wrote:> You are missing the sensational comeback of India in the Kolkata test> against Australia. Winning a test after following on!! Only happened> twice, Australia's been on the receiving end both times. India's> victory was phenomenal.>
Rushi
While that was not predictable, the decision to enforce the follow on was so stupid, that it was an accident waiting to happen. That SRW nearly got away with it was, however, most piquant. It's as if the gods of cricket wanted to make a point.
Rushi wrote:> You are missing the sensational comeback of India in the Kolkata test> against Australia. Winning a test after following on!! Only happened> twice, Australia's been on the receiving end both times. India's> victory was phenomenal.>
Rushi>
Actually happened three times as far as I know; and Australia's been on the end of all three. Yet people still complain when they don't enforce the follow-on...
I know it may not be popular but I'd have to include the amazing turnaround in the 1981 Ashes Series when England were 1-0 down after the first two games and went on to win the last matches. I'd also have to include Botham's 5 wickest for one run in the same series and Bob Willis' 8-43 in the game before. I can remember the excitement around the UK being equivalent to beating Germany in the World Cup.
You also would have to include Jim Laker's 19 wickest in a match in 1956.
What about the bodyline series?
Personally I would also include some things like the famous West Indian attack of Holding, Roberts, Marshall and Garner, which was rampant in 1980's.
"Ben Gussey" <bengussey@optushome.com.au> wrote in message news:42312d59$0$10868$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...> "JPD" <john_p_darcy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message> news:42311731.155885633@news.bigpond.com...> A guy in our club last season took a triple hat-trick. 5 wickets in 5 balls.> Unfortunately, it was the last five wickets, so he didn't get the> opportunity to take it any further.
<prabhu_r77@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1110560679.539931.16850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Michael Clarke picking 6-12 @Mumbai. Who would have thought he would> shine with the ball too after a happy series with the bat?
In article <42317c87$0$29448$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Ben Gussey says...
I hadn't met the kid at the time (he's about 17 or 18) but I met him more > recently and he looks very uncoordinated (think 6'4, 120kgs), certainly not > someone you'd pick to take 5 wickets in a row!
It's funny that. I played under 14's and we had one bowler that was far and away the best bowler in the league. One game he took 10/7 then 7/10 finishing up with 17/17, made the local rag's back page. The reason he only got 7/10 in the second innings was that we tried to stack the cards in his favour and put in a trundler at the other end who unfortunately took a hatrick since the opposing batsmen got excited about having something to hit at the other end.
1st 2 bowled and the 3rd wicket caught.
I was a decent bowler, had a few hattricks in Indoor but you never really count those. Had two opportunities for a hattrick, one denied by the batsmen and one I'm sure was denied by the obviously impartial opposition's team umpire.
I was also a keen golfer and my two main goals was to get a hattrick and score a hole in one. Came awfully close on both counts.
"Rushi" <rushi.v@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<1110532754.876303.313910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...> You are missing the sensational comeback of India in the Kolkata test> against Australia. Winning a test after following on!! Only happened> twice, Australia's been on the receiving end both times. India's> victory was phenomenal.
Phenomenal but not completely unexpected. The runs were scored by batsmen who had shown flashes of that brilliance before and Australia's achillies heel of top-spin/finger spin/whatever you class it as had been around for quite some time and continues to this day.
Of course, if John wants to include his #10 option in the list, I certainly concede Kolkata was less expected than that.
"JPD" <john_p_darcy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:42311731.155885633@news.bigpond.com...> What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket?
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The most unexpected event in cricketing history is Trevor Chappell bowling an underarm delivery to Brian McKechnie as the last ball of the match with New Zealand needing 6 to win.
JPD wrote:> What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket?> That is, the ten things which, either in game play or peripherally,> caused the most jaws to drop, eyes to open, etc; what are the top ten> bolts from the blue?>
I was once involved in a game, not in the backyard but in a proper> competition, where an opposition bowler completed a hat-trick against> us by dismissing the father, the son and the grandfather of the same> family. But this list is not about stuff like that - it is about> cricket in the public eye.>
My list, for debate, re-ordering and/or amendment:>
10. Australia take only three New Zealand wickets on the first day
the Test match which immediately followed New Zealand being totally> outclassed in five ODIs. (I just had to throw this one in, since it> is the event which gave me the idea for this list).>
9. With three wickets falling in the last over, including runouts> from the last two balls, Australia snatch a Tie from the jaws of> victory at Brisbane in December 1960. Tied matches were not unheard> of in cricket, but had never before happened in Test matches and this> one came from nowhere to capture, and retain to this day, the> imagination of the cricket world.>
8. India defeat West Indies by 43 runs at Lord's to win the 1983> World Cup. The winners were not a *bad* team, but the losers were> rightly classed amongst the all-time greatest teams. To beat them> once in this tournament was huge for India; to beat them again in the> Final was astounding.>
7. Australia defeat England by 7 runs at The Oval in 1882, winning a> Test in England for the first time after a superb bowling performance> by Fred Spofforth. England were believed to be invicible at home, in> the same class-of-their-own as Australia is in the present day, and
spite of a successful tour overall the visitors were unfaniced in the> Tes, and playing from behind right up until the end.>
6. Thirty-five of the world's leading cricketers are revealed, in
1977, to have signed contracts to play in Australia for a private> promoter, Kerry Packer. Not that privately sponsored matches were> anything new, but the scale and audacity of World Series Cricket> caught every part of the cricket "establishment" on the back foot and> threw cricket into a spin from which it did not recover until ...> well, the book is still open on that one.>
5. Alan Border, a very part-time bowler who had given himself the> ball less and less after taking over the Australian captaincy, bags 7> for 46 at the SCG against West Indies in January 1989. Possibly the> least tippable 7-fer in the history of sport, even if the batsmen did> contribute to their own demise a fair bit.>
4. Brian Lara, his glory days behind him so it seemed, recaptures
world record for highest Test score by surpassing Matthew Hayden's
a mere six months after it was chalked up, and registering the first> 400 at the game's highest level.>
3. With a surge of adrenaline on the last day, and overcoming a> farcical attempt at unfair play by the home side, England come from> behind to defeat Pakistan in a Test at Karachi in December 2000 and> thus win the series, with (not the least remarkable aspect) Graeme> Hick playing a matchwinning hand.>
2. Don Bradman is bowled for 0 in his final Test innings at The Oval> in 1948, needing only four runs to guarantee a Test average of 100.> Bradman's story needs little retelling; suffice to say that his final> tour of England was a triumph, and scoring 173 not out at Leeds a> fortnight earlier had seemingly ensured the 100 average. He had been> in good form between the 4th and 5th Tests, including 133 not out a> few days earlier at Old Trafford; then come the Test in the blink of> an eye he was gone.>
And the Most Unexpected Event in Cricket History:>
1. Admitted to Test cricket on the basis of little more than> population and popularity, but without prospects, Bangladesh match it> with and even outplay India for three days of their debut Test at> Dhaka in November 2000. In due course, India asserted its class and> the third innings (Bangladesh all out 91) was closer to expectations;> but nobody, and I mean nobody, would have predicted in advance that> the home side would score 400 and have India 5 for 190 with the great> Tendulkar removed for a mere 18. The final result was amongst the> Least Unexpected Events in Cricket History, but how the debutantes> acquitted themselves so well (for part of the way) remains a mystery.>
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JPD
Lillee and Marsh betting against Australia winning after enforcing the follow on against England at Headingley, and being in a position to collect at 500/1.
Hmmm ... where's a bloke called John when you need him?
Unexpected for Aus to play unsportingly to guarantee winning? Have I fallen through a wormhole?
phantomb wrote:> "JPD" <john_p_darcy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message > news:42311731.155885633@news.bigpond.com...>
What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket?>
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The most unexpected event in cricketing history is Trevor Chappell bowling > an underarm delivery to Brian McKechnie as the last ball of the match with > New Zealand needing 6 to win.>
Larry de Silva 13 March 2005 17:05:12 [ permanent link ]
"daftb" <daftbrain@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1110594814.719550.137700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> Sri Lanka's world cup victory had to be some what unexpected. i doubt> many were picking them to win before the tournament started.
I agree about them not being picked to win it in the Aussie media at the time but they certainly had the confident backing of the Sri Lankans, both here and in SL.
JPD wrote in message <42311731.155885633@news.bigpond.com>...>What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket?
Some possibilities not mentioned in the thread:
Thomas White takes guard with a bat wider than the wicket (1771 - who said poor sportsmanship was a new idea?). Lamborn delivers the first off-break (1770s). BJT Bosanquet delivers the first googly (1900). Somerset declare at 1-0 in a one-day match (1979). England, having won one test in the previous 3 years, win a test in the West Indies for the first time in 16 years (1990).
Michael Banner 14 March 2005 02:14:01 [ permanent link ]
"RodP" <rodp@hotmail.com.nothere> wrote in message news:MPG.1c9ca66186de26f098983f@news-server...
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I was a decent bowler, had a few hattricks in Indoor but you never> really count those. Had two opportunities for a hattrick, one denied> by the batsmen and one I'm sure was denied by the obviously impartial> opposition's team umpire.
How do you count hattricks in indoor? - do run outs count?
I ask because once I bowled an over where we got six wickets in six balls. The first was run out, the next four were bowled or caught, with the last being LBW when the batsmen decided the best way not to be bowled was to stand in front of the stumps. I then followed those six balls up with a wide
I'm a fairly ordinary bowler, though I'm OK in indoor I never get a bowl in outdoor.
Andrew Dunford 14 March 2005 06:53:56 [ permanent link ]
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message news:39k9r3F612udtU1@individual.net...>
"Phil Wise" <philwise@paradise.jim.nz> wrote in message> news:42313e61$1@clear.net.nz...> >
"JPD" <john_p_darcy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message> > news:42311731.155885633@news.bigpond.com...> > > What are the Ten most Unexpected Events in the history of cricket?> > > That is, the ten things which, either in game play or peripherally,> > > caused the most jaws to drop, eyes to open, etc; what are the top ten> > > bolts from the blue?> > >
I was once involved in a game, not in the backyard but in a proper> > > competition, where an opposition bowler completed a hat-trick against> > > us by dismissing the father, the son and the grandfather of the same> > > family. But this list is not about stuff like that - it is about> > > cricket in the public eye.> > >
My list, for debate, re-ordering and/or amendment:> > >
10. Australia take only three New Zealand wickets on the first day of> > > the Test match which immediately followed New Zealand being totally> > > outclassed in five ODIs. (I just had to throw this one in, since it> > > is the event which gave me the idea for this list).> >
Instead of this one, which really isn't that unexpected given that NZ
all their inconsistency and injury are a pretty solid test lineup when> they> > want to be, I'd nominate NZ's first test win, beating a West Indian side> > featuring a dominant Weekes, that had destroyed New Zealand in all the> > previous tests and who had a better than even chance of winning the
final> > match until dismissed for 77 in the fourth innings. There had, by the> > account in "Memorable Moments in New Zealand Sport", been considerations> not> > long before of removing test status from NZ.>
I'll second that. Added to which, the New Zealand team was without the> services of its captain Harry Cave and best batsman Bert Sutcliffe, both> still suffering from illnesses contracted on the tour to India and
Pakistan> earlier in the season. NZ had at that point been playing Test cricket for> 26 years without a victory, which is the same number of runs they'd scored> in their previous bat at Eden Park.
Correction: Cave did play in the fourth Test, having missed the third. Incidentally, yesterday was the 39th anniversary of that victory.
In article <JW2Zd.196293$K7.150615@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Michael Banner says...
How do you count hattricks in indoor? - do run outs count?
Any dismissal attributed to the bowler tho I do believe run-outs are actually credited to the bowler(?) Andrew?
I'd only counted the usual outdoor hat-trickable dismissals.
being LBW when the batsmen decided the best way not to be bowled was to> stand in front of the stumps.
In the leagues I had played there was no LBW. They did have variations from league to league. One I played was 8 ball overs and you bowled all wides and no-balls again, another I played was 6 ball overs and you only rebowled the even numbered deliveries again (2nd, 4th, 6th).
Andrew Dunford 14 March 2005 13:32:33 [ permanent link ]
"RodP" <rodp@hotmail.com.nothere> wrote in message news:MPG.1c9ff3f56dbaeb36989853@news-server...> In article <JW2Zd.196293$K7.150615@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,> Michael Banner says...>
How do you count hattricks in indoor? - do run outs count?>
Any dismissal attributed to the bowler tho I do believe run-outs> are actually credited to the bowler(?) Andrew?
Yes, it's usual to attribute all credit (and blame) to the bowler when expressing bowling figures. Thus the bowler gets the run outs, but byes and leg byes are debited against him.
I'd only counted the usual outdoor hat-trickable dismissals.>
being LBW when the batsmen decided the best way not to be bowled was to> > stand in front of the stumps.>
In the leagues I had played there was no LBW. They did have variations> from league to league. One I played was 8 ball overs and you bowled all> wides and no-balls again, another I played was 6 ball overs and you> only rebowled the even numbered deliveries again (2nd, 4th, 6th).
When I umpired (mid-80s) there were as many variations as centres. We played eight-ball overs, with a two-run penalty for each wide or no-ball, which were only re-bowled in the final over of an innings.
In article <39l41rF60u2fmU1@individual.net>, Andrew Dunford says...
When I umpired (mid-80s) there were as many variations as centres. We> played eight-ball overs, with a two-run penalty for each wide or no-ball,> which were only re-bowled in the final over of an innings.
Did you ever have teams take advantage of that if the scoring rate was much greater than conceeding 2 runs per ball?
The 8 ball over centre I played I was playing in a mixed team, and one of the girls absolutely insisted in bowling overarm (women were permitted to deliver the ball TC style) and each 8 ball over would take upwards of 10 minutes to complete! Luckily most teams who played mixed had male and female of just about equal competency whereas our mixed team featured 4 male 3rd grade players and their partners.
What we lost on her over, we gained in dismissing the men and then tonking their bowling all over the nets. My specialty was taking cheeky 2's and 3's which would cause the fielding side extreme frustration and by the time my partnership was over, the bowler was walking backwards ready to hit the stumps in case I decided to run. I'd normally take 3 or 4 steps down the wicket while he was moving back to his mark.
Michael Banner 15 March 2005 07:28:59 [ permanent link ]
"RodP" <rodp@hotmail.com.nothere> wrote in message news:MPG.1c9ff3f56dbaeb36989853@news-server...
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being LBW when the batsmen decided the best way not to be bowled was to> > stand in front of the stumps.>
In the leagues I had played there was no LBW. They did have variations> from league to league. One I played was 8 ball overs and you bowled all> wides and no-balls again, another I played was 6 ball overs and you> only rebowled the even numbered deliveries again (2nd, 4th, 6th).
The LBW rule where I play is that you can only be LBW if you play no shot and ball would have hit the stumps.
I have played in 3 different centres and no two have had the same rules.
