Andrew Dunford 10 March 2005 05:12:34 [ permanent link ]
"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d0o61i$2uh7$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...> Wait for MEW to come out with the Queensland Bias claims due to the> selectors>
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message news:399l8bF60rtepU1@individual.net...>
"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:d0o61i$2uh7$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...> > Wait for MEW to come out with the Queensland Bias claims due to the> > selectors> >
A fair decision IMO.>
<snip>>
I don't think Gillespie looks 100% fit.>
Andrew
Andrew,
The scoring rate seems to be very slow. Is the pitch a bit dodgey or are New Zealand trying some Boycottisms?
"RodP" <rodp@hotmail.com.nothere> wrote in message news:MPG.1c9a4cdbfaf62923989825@news-server...> In article <d0o61i$2uh7$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au>,> Sleepy says...>
Wait for MEW to come out with the Queensland Bias claims due to the> > selectors> >
A fair decision IMO.>
I think Thommo has a point really. Lee has troubled the batsmen in ODO's> but he's shown in the past that doesn't neccessarily transfer to test> form.>
Kaspa has excelled since his recall and absolutely deserves his place> in the current 11.
Please confine your posts to emotive outbursts and give reasoned argument a miss like the rest of us.
In article <d0o8kl$1370$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au>, Calvin says...
I think Thommo has a point really. Lee has troubled the batsmen in ODO's> > but he's shown in the past that doesn't neccessarily transfer to test> > form.> >
Kaspa has excelled since his recall and absolutely deserves his place> > in the current 11.>
Please confine your posts to emotive outbursts and give reasoned argument a> miss like the rest of us.
Andrew Dunford 10 March 2005 07:19:09 [ permanent link ]
"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d0o87n$10am$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...>
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message> news:399l8bF60rtepU1@individual.net...> >
"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message> > news:d0o61i$2uh7$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...> > > Wait for MEW to come out with the Queensland Bias claims due to the> > > selectors> > >
A fair decision IMO.> >
<snip>> >
I don't think Gillespie looks 100% fit.> >
Andrew>
Andrew,>
The scoring rate seems to be very slow. Is the pitch a bit dodgey or are> New Zealand trying some Boycottisms?
The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the main. Fine by me - they can bat for all five days as far as I'm concerned.
Andrew Dunford wrote:> The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the main.
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us, can you point your webcam at your TV?
Andrew Dunford 10 March 2005 08:19:03 [ permanent link ]
<cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> Andrew Dunford wrote:> > The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the> main.>
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed> the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice> day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).>
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems> whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us,> can you point your webcam at your TV?
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony Tunes video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me about Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message news:39a060F5pucseU1@individual.net...>
<cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> > Andrew Dunford wrote:> > > The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the> > main.> >
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed> > the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice> > day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).> >
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems> > whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us,> > can you point your webcam at your TV?>
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony Tunes> video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me
about> Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.>
Andrew
I've been very impressed with Marshall from what I've seen. Looks like NZ have got a good middle order player there for the next few years.
Andrew Dunford 10 March 2005 08:25:36 [ permanent link ]
"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d0oi45$6cg$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...>
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message> news:39a060F5pucseU1@individual.net...> >
<cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message> > news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> > > Andrew Dunford wrote:> > > > The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the> > > main.> > >
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed> > > the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice> > > day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).> > >
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems> > > whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us,> > > can you point your webcam at your TV?> >
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony
Tunes> > video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me> about> > Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.> >
Andrew>
I've been very impressed with Marshall from what I've seen. Looks like NZ> have got a good middle order player there for the next few years.>
(hopefully that will give him the yips )
He's a decent player of medium pace on slower pitches. Can't handle quick short-pitched stuff aimed at the body, as uncovered by Harmison last year and Lee more recently. One reason why Lee should have played today.
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"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:d0oi45$6cg$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...>>
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message>> news:39a060F5pucseU1@individual.net...>> >
<cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message>> > news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>> > > Andrew Dunford wrote:>> > > > The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the>> > > main.>> > >
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed>> > > the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice>> > > day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).>> > >
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems>> > > whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with >> > > us,>> > > can you point your webcam at your TV?>> >
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony> Tunes>> > video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me>> about>> > Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.>> >
Andrew>>
I've been very impressed with Marshall from what I've seen. Looks like >> NZ>> have got a good middle order player there for the next few years.>>
(hopefully that will give him the yips ) >
He's a decent player of medium pace on slower pitches. Can't handle quick> short-pitched stuff aimed at the body, as uncovered by Harmison last year> and Lee more recently. One reason why Lee should have played today.
Lee is a fairly useless 3rd bowler. So who do you drop McGrath or Gillespie? Do you make McGrath or Gillespie the 3rd bowler, I can't say they'd like being demoted for a guy that can barely make the team. I could have seen Australia with 4 quicks and Warne, then move Gilchrist to 6. If Ponting wanted to bowl this might have been a better course of action.
cricdabbler@hotmail.com wrote:> Andrew Dunford wrote:
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed> the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice> day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).>
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems> whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us,> can you point your webcam at your TV?
If you are really desperate www.sen.com.au probably have live audio of the test since they are radio covering the game in melbourne and adelaide.
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"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message > news:39a0idF608i6bU1@individual.net...>>
"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message>> news:d0oi45$6cg$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...>>>
"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message>>> news:39a060F5pucseU1@individual.net...>>> >
<cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>> > news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>>> > > Andrew Dunford wrote:>>> > > > The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the>>> > > main.>>> > >
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed>>> > > the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice>>> > > day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).>>> > >
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems>>> > > whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with >>> > > us,>>> > > can you point your webcam at your TV?>>> >
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony>> Tunes>>> > video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me>>> about>>> > Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.>>> >
Andrew>>>
I've been very impressed with Marshall from what I've seen. Looks like >>> NZ>>> have got a good middle order player there for the next few years.>>>
(hopefully that will give him the yips ) >>
He's a decent player of medium pace on slower pitches. Can't handle >> quick>> short-pitched stuff aimed at the body, as uncovered by Harmison last year>> and Lee more recently. One reason why Lee should have played today.>
Lee is a fairly useless 3rd bowler. So who do you drop McGrath or > Gillespie? Do you make McGrath or Gillespie the 3rd bowler, I can't say > they'd like being demoted for a guy that can barely make the team. I could > have seen Australia with 4 quicks and Warne, then move Gilchrist to 6. If > Ponting wanted to bowl this might have been a better course of action.>
In this scenario, who would be the batsman to miss out?
I thing the selectors got it right (I am not a Lee fan in the Test arena) but this is not a bad scenario. Would be interesting a return to teh good old days of 4 quicks.
"RodP" <rodp@hotmail.com.nothere> wrote in message news:MPG.1c9a4cdbfaf62923989825@news-server...> In article <d0o61i$2uh7$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au>,> Sleepy says...>
Wait for MEW to come out with the Queensland Bias claims due to the>> selectors>>
A fair decision IMO.>
I think Thommo has a point really. Lee has troubled the batsmen in ODO's> but he's shown in the past that doesn't neccessarily transfer to test> form.>
Kaspa has excelled since his recall and absolutely deserves his place> in the current 11.>
Cheers,> Rod.
Agreed.
I posted somewhere a while back that in ODO's Lee does not bowl a long spell (bowls short 3 - 4 over spells) and is bowling to batsmen who have to score and that this inflates his chances of success. Whereas in Tests if he bowls short, they leave it, wide, they leave it etc.
While I wouldn't quite have put it the way Thommo did I do tend to agree (not sure about the idiot thing though)
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:19:03 +1300, "Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote:
<cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message>news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>> Andrew Dunford wrote:>> > The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the>> main.>>
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed>> the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice>> day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).>>
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems>> whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us,>> can you point your webcam at your TV?>
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony Tunes>video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me about>Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.
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"Colin Lord" <drsmith@lostinspace.com> wrote in message > news:HaSXd.191573$K7.152583@news-server.bigpond.net.au...>>
He's a decent player of medium pace on slower pitches. Can't handle >>> quick>>> short-pitched stuff aimed at the body, as uncovered by Harmison last >>> year>>> and Lee more recently. One reason why Lee should have played today.>>
Lee is a fairly useless 3rd bowler. So who do you drop McGrath or >> Gillespie? Do you make McGrath or Gillespie the 3rd bowler, I can't say >> they'd like being demoted for a guy that can barely make the team. I >> could have seen Australia with 4 quicks and Warne, then move Gilchrist to >> 6. If Ponting wanted to bowl this might have been a better course of >> action.>
In this scenario, who would be the batsman to miss out?
No idea. Hayden sounded touch and go on fitness. Otherwise Katich. Tough choice.
I thing the selectors got it right (I am not a Lee fan in the Test arena) > but this is not a bad scenario. Would be interesting a return to teh good > old days of 4 quicks.
Ponting's captaincy has been a little iffy lately. He's been letting games drift when they have been in the bag, making mediocre bowling choices. He's been getting away with it so far.
Andrew Dunford 11 March 2005 00:28:53 [ permanent link ]
"JPD" <john_p_darcy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:422ff726.82135516@news.bigpond.com...> "Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> was moved to say:>
I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony Tunes> >video.>
Which one?
We're currently working our way through Volume 5 of the Bumper Collection. It has been a long haul.
Andrew Dunford wrote:> <cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>
Andrew Dunford wrote:>>
The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the>>
main.>>
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed>>the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice>>day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).>>
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems>>whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us,>>can you point your webcam at your TV?>
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony Tunes> video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me about> Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.>
Andrew>
You (or your wife) let your kids watch TV while eating ? Where's you DVD/VCR ?
Andrew Dunford 11 March 2005 02:36:39 [ permanent link ]
"Lndsay" <mcisaac@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:4230be49@clear.net.nz...>
Andrew Dunford wrote:> > <cricdabbler@hotmail.com> wrote in message> > news:1110425697.857093.238300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> >
Andrew Dunford wrote:> >>
The pitch is docile, but the batsmen are taking it quietly in the> >>
main.> >>
I was disappointed to find that Marshall came along and pushed> >>the scoring into the super 2 rpo. I was looking forward to a nice> >>day of Test cricket, played as it used to be when I was young(er).> >>
Cricinfo seems to have died right now -- typical server problems> >>whenever NZ play -- so, as Shripathi would have asked were he with us,> >>can you point your webcam at your TV?> >
Gladly, but I will warn you that the TV is currently showing a Loony
Tunes> > video. It's children's dinner time, and no amount of wailing from me about> > Marshall being 99* will make a blind bit of difference.> >
Andrew> >
You (or your wife) let your kids watch TV while eating ?
Yep - it's the only time they watch.
Where's you> DVD/VCR ?
Showing the children's video. I think we're going round in circles.
"Pieter" <piwi2526@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c0892da9.0503092139.6e761acd@posting.google.com...> alvey <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net>...> > .......>
New Zealand 265 for 3 (Marshall 103*, Cumming 74) v Australia>
Still happy ?
If McGrath and Gillespe, probably the best opening bowling combination in the world can't get a wicket between the two of them, why do you think that Golden Buttocks will do any better?
It looks a pretty benign pitch. We'll know the truth if Australia go out and make a zillion on it.
Andrew Dunford 11 March 2005 03:03:12 [ permanent link ]
"Sleepy" <sleepy_mcgovern@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d0qiin$dto$1@bunyip2.cc.uq.edu.au...>
"Pieter" <piwi2526@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:c0892da9.0503092139.6e761acd@posting.google.com...> > alvey <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:<3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net>...> > > .......> >
New Zealand 265 for 3 (Marshall 103*, Cumming 74) v Australia> >
Still happy ?>
If McGrath and Gillespe, probably the best opening bowling combination in> the world can't get a wicket between the two of them, why do you think
that> Golden Buttocks will do any better?
McGrath failed to take a wicket because two regulation slip catches went down, and Aleem Dar forgot to raise his finger when Fleming was plumb lbw. Gillespie has an excellent record, but simply didn't bowl very well.
A bowler of Lee's pace can create problems on any pitch. We don't know whether he would have, but the rhythm he showed during the odo series suggests he's in decent form.
It looks a pretty benign pitch. We'll know the truth if Australia go out> and make a zillion on it.
Depends whether Warne can hit the footmarks regularly.
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"Colin Lord" <drsmith@lostinspace.com> wrote in message >> news:HaSXd.191573$K7.152583@news-server.bigpond.net.au...>>>
He's a decent player of medium pace on slower pitches. Can't handle >>>> quick>>>> short-pitched stuff aimed at the body, as uncovered by Harmison last >>>> year>>>> and Lee more recently. One reason why Lee should have played today.>>>
Lee is a fairly useless 3rd bowler. So who do you drop McGrath or >>> Gillespie? Do you make McGrath or Gillespie the 3rd bowler, I can't say >>> they'd like being demoted for a guy that can barely make the team. I >>> could have seen Australia with 4 quicks and Warne, then move Gilchrist >>> to 6. If Ponting wanted to bowl this might have been a better course of >>> action.>>
In this scenario, who would be the batsman to miss out?>
No idea. Hayden sounded touch and go on fitness. Otherwise Katich. Tough > choice.>
I thing the selectors got it right (I am not a Lee fan in the Test arena) >> but this is not a bad scenario. Would be interesting a return to teh good >> old days of 4 quicks.>
Ponting's captaincy has been a little iffy lately. He's been letting games > drift when they have been in the bag, making mediocre bowling choices. > He's been getting away with it so far.>
And he will continue to get away with it as long as thw world bowling stocks remain so low that teams are unable to apply the final touches when the Aussies are unber pressure.
To often we see them in deep crap only for poor bowling (moreso than good batting on the whole) to get them out of jail.
That is not to say that they have not on occasions batted well to recover but that on a whole poor bowling has let them back
"alvey" <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net...> .......
Fair enough call but Alvey what happened to your theories about pro-NSW and ani-Qld selectors ?
Recently we've seen:
Symonds picked in the test team for Sri Lanka - maybe on one day form, God knows why else A district grade class cricketer, Hauritz, taken to India over Magill The inclusion of a virtual unknown Hopes into the touring party Kaspa over Lee (to be charitable perhaps Gillespise over Lee) Watson crack the test team prematurely
Too much banana bender influence in the selectors discussion perhaps?
Dave wrote:> "alvey" <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net...>
.......>
Fair enough call but Alvey what happened to your theories about pro-NSW and > ani-Qld selectors ?>
Recently we've seen:>
Symonds picked in the test team for Sri Lanka - maybe on one day form, God > knows why else> A district grade class cricketer, Hauritz, taken to India over Magill> The inclusion of a virtual unknown Hopes into the touring party> Kaspa over Lee (to be charitable perhaps Gillespise over Lee)> Watson crack the test team prematurely>
Too much banana bender influence in the selectors discussion perhaps?>
Nope. I'd opine that it's more like lack of knowledge on your part.
"alvey" <alvey_nsv_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:39flkgF61rv93U1@individual.net...> Dave wrote:>> "alvey" <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net...>>
.......>>
Fair enough call but Alvey what happened to your theories about pro-NSW >> and ani-Qld selectors ?>>
Recently we've seen:>>
Symonds picked in the test team for Sri Lanka - maybe on one day form, >> God knows why else>> A district grade class cricketer, Hauritz, taken to India over Magill>> The inclusion of a virtual unknown Hopes into the touring party>> Kaspa over Lee (to be charitable perhaps Gillespise over Lee)>> Watson crack the test team prematurely>>
Too much banana bender influence in the selectors discussion perhaps?>>
Nope. I'd opine that it's more like lack of knowledge on your part.
You can opine until the cows come home but your loose cannon conspiracy theories about NSW selection bias will still be baseless.
Dave wrote:> "alvey" <alvey_nsv_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:39flkgF61rv93U1@individual.net...>
Dave wrote:>>
"alvey" <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>news:3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net...>>>
.......>>>
Fair enough call but Alvey what happened to your theories about pro-NSW >>>and ani-Qld selectors ?>>>
Recently we've seen:>>>
Symonds picked in the test team for Sri Lanka - maybe on one day form, >>>God knows why else>>>A district grade class cricketer, Hauritz, taken to India over Magill>>>The inclusion of a virtual unknown Hopes into the touring party>>>Kaspa over Lee (to be charitable perhaps Gillespise over Lee)>>>Watson crack the test team prematurely>>>
Too much banana bender influence in the selectors discussion perhaps?>>>
Nope. I'd opine that it's more like lack of knowledge on your part.>
You can opine until the cows come home but your loose cannon conspiracy > theories about NSW selection bias will still be baseless.>
Brilliant! It doesn't exist because you say so. Can't argue with that.
Sorry Dave, but I've had this argument with more people than you've made bad posts and it takes a fair bit more than some drongo braying "Does not!" to get me interested.
"Dave" <ozbrettdj@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<42324190$0$5462$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...> "alvey" <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net...> > .......>
Fair enough call but Alvey what happened to your theories about pro-NSW and > ani-Qld selectors ?
<snip>
Major gripe. Look, you want to argue about NSV bias at selection time, fair enough. I don't agree and haven't yet seen too many reasonaed responses, but it's an opinion certainly. But do try to stick to contesting what's actually being presented.
"anti-qld theories" is something you've made up (or borrowed from someone else who's made it up) to allow yourself a strawman to attack.
Dave wrote:> "alvey" <alvey_nsv_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:39i9ibF616a8vU1@individual.net...>
Dave wrote:>>
"alvey" <alvey_nsv_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>news:39flkgF61rv93U1@individual.net...>>>
Dave wrote:>>>>
"alvey" <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net...>>>>>
.......>>>>>
Fair enough call but Alvey what happened to your theories about pro-NSW >>>>>and ani-Qld selectors ?>>>>>
Recently we've seen:>>>>>
Symonds picked in the test team for Sri Lanka - maybe on one day form, >>>>>God knows why else>>>>>A district grade class cricketer, Hauritz, taken to India over Magill>>>>>The inclusion of a virtual unknown Hopes into the touring party>>>>>Kaspa over Lee (to be charitable perhaps Gillespise over Lee)>>>>>Watson crack the test team prematurely>>>>>
Too much banana bender influence in the selectors discussion perhaps?>>>>>
Nope. I'd opine that it's more like lack of knowledge on your part.>>>
You can opine until the cows come home but your loose cannon conspiracy >>>theories about NSW selection bias will still be baseless.>>>
Brilliant! It doesn't exist because you say so. Can't argue with that.>>
Sorry Dave, but I've had this argument with more people than you've made >>bad posts and it takes a fair bit more than some drongo braying "Does >>not!" to get me interested.>>
Alvey you toss out one liners and then bait and switch.>
Look at that list again and maybe you'll understand why the Vics and South > Aussies are bleating about the unhealthy bias in the selectors panel. Hint - > they aren't complaining about NSW.>
Really Dave? Forgotten this already have you?
"When they give out the baggy blue cap in New South Wales, they give you a baggy green cap in a brown paper bag as well to save making two presentations." The Victorian coach questioning the Australian call-up of NSW player Simon Katich.
And could you give me a couple of examples of SA "bleats" over "unhealthy bias in the selectors panel"(sic)? Which is odd because; a) Boof was dumped for a Blue and, b) don't they regard Hilditchcrawler as a Sth Australian then?
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:10:11 +1100, "Dave" <ozbrettdj@hotmail.com> wrote:
"alvey" <alvey_greig_sidecast@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:3991ojF5v56l9U3@individual.net...>> .......>
Fair enough call but Alvey what happened to your theories about pro-NSW and >ani-Qld selectors ?>
Recently we've seen:>
Symonds picked in the test team for Sri Lanka - maybe on one day form, God >knows why else
Maybe because a) Katich was injured and couldn't bowl at the time b) Australia wanted to play 2 spinners c) Symonds can bat in the top 6, bowl medium pace and bowl finger spin which meant that Australia wasn't going in with only McGrath coming back from injury and Gillespie as pace options.
A district grade class cricketer, Hauritz, taken to India over Magill
Hauritz 27 4 103 5 20.60 3-16 0 0 32.4 3.81
MacGill's last 2 series before that tour Border-Gavaskar Trophy (Aus/Ind) in Australia, 2003/04 [Series] - 4 194.4 711 14 4/86 5/138 50.78 3.65 83.4 0 0 Australia in Sri Lanka, 2003/04 [Series] Aus 2 55.2 232 5 4/74 5/143 46.40 4.19 66.4 0 0
why would you pick him to tour India on that, especially seeing as Warne was always going to play all 3 tests?
If you don't take MacGill what other spinners were clearly ahead of Hauritz?
The inclusion of a virtual unknown Hopes into the touring party
Perhaps you can suggest another medium paced allrounder who could have been taken - remembering that Harvey has had a huge run in one dayers in the past?
Hopes was, iirc, voted in as the player of the year in the domestic one dayers...
Kaspa over Lee (to be charitable perhaps Gillespise over Lee)
Perhaps you should look at what Kaspa and Lee have done in tests over the last 4 years?
I'll give you a hint, Lee averages well over 35. With the ball
Watson crack the test team prematurely
Again, perhaps you can suggest somebody else who could be picked to bat in the top 6 and bowl fast medium in Australia?>
Too much banana bender influence in the selectors discussion perhaps?
