"Jayen" <rsc_poster@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1165833564.283801.249240@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...> The 1974 tour of England was the worst. The gap> between the teams wasn't as large, but the lack of team spirit led to> us losing by huge margins.
I will vote for the 1962 tour of West Indies. Not only was India whitewashed 5-0, they almost lost skipper Nari Contractor's life, leading to 22-yr-old Pataudi's baptism by fire. Apart from some hopeless single-handed battles by Polly Umrigar, India was completely done in by pace of Hall, Griffith and rookie Lester King.
The 1952 tour of England, where India famously went 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 4-0 to Freddie Trueman is equally forgettable except for Vinoo Mankad's call-up from league cricket to death-defying performances.
Andrew Dunford 12 December 2006 07:56:14 [ permanent link ]
"Uday Rajan" <udayrajan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1165892165.807746.200340@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...> vijaykumark@my-deja.com wrote:>
I would nominate the following tours for the ignominy of>> being the worst ever tour by an India team>> 1. 1959 vs England>> 3. 1974 vs England>> 2. 1952 vs England>
Hmm...I agree with 1959 vs Eng at 1, and I'd put 1974 vs Eng at 2 (not> sure if you meant that as 2, since you have it on the second line).>
1959 vs Eng: what a horrible, horrible display. Even most one-sided> series have the odd good team performance or at the least individual> performance that serves as redemption. 1959 had nothing. The highest> Indian run-getter was Nari Contractor with 233 runs over the whole> series (that he only played 4 Tests hardly seems like a mitigating> factor). 3 Tests were lost by an innings, and a fourth by 8 wickets.> The bowling fared a little better, with Surendranath and Gupte at least> taking a few wickets, but it was rarely threatening. About the only> bright spot in the series was Abbas Ali Baig's debut in the 4th Test,> and he went on to become one of the many Indian debut centurions who> never got to three figures again.>
1974 vs Eng: 42 all out. Lost the third Test by an innings and eight> wickets, surely a record of sorts even in the Bangladesh/Zimbabwe era.> That is, England lost only 2 wickets in their only innings, and still> won by an innings. No bowling, and not much batting. Take out> Gavaskar's 101 and 50 in the first Test, and there's not much left in> the series. The series competes very seriously for the no. 1 spot, but> I'm tempted to put 1959 ahead only so that I can feel a little better> about the one I actually suffered through.>
1952 in England, I have some sympathy for. Yes, we lost 3-0 in 4 Tests,> yes, we were 0/4 in one of the Tests, but Vinoo Mankad had a tremendous> allround performance in the second Test, and Vijay Hazare had a good> series with the bat overall. There have been worse series.>
India's record in England from 1952 to 1974:>
1952: Lost 0-3 in 4 Tests> 1959: Lost 0-5 in 5 Tests> 1967: Lost 0-3 in 3 Tests> 1971: Won 1-0 in 3 Tests> 1974: Lost 0-3 in 3 Tests>
Rather less than inspiring. It's been mostly much better since then,> though there have been no series wins, and only one Test win (in 2003).
Andrew Dunford 12 December 2006 08:34:30 [ permanent link ]
"Uday Rajan" <udayrajan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1165899947.787498.64730@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> Andrew Dunford wrote:>> "Uday Rajan" <udayrajan@yahoo.com> wrote in message>> > Rather less than inspiring. It's been mostly much better since then,>> > though there have been no series wins, and only one Test win (in 2003).>>
1986!>
And how did I forget that one? Don't know, but that was a good year all> right. Vengsarkar's peak, and the bits-and-pieces seamers coming> through.
There must be something strange about that year. Recently I listened to a radio programme about the 1999 NZ tourists to England, during which it was stated about five times that they were the first NZ team to win a series in England.
"wisden" <sam_986@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1165809336.501455.66290@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...> Which one would you pick? Please justify your selection with reasons.> Here are some really bad tours that came to my mind> 1974 Tour of England> 1991-92 Tour of Australia> 1999-2000 Tour of Australia> 2002-2003 Tour of New Zealand>
And the worst one since India started playing Test cricket?>
2002-2003 tour of NZ is the WORST ever for the following reasons.
India had world class Fab 5 batsmen Sehwag, Sachin, Dravid, Laxman and Ganguly in NZ series in its team and STILL LOST to an INFERIOR NZ team The OPPONENT TEAMS in 1974, 91/92 and 99/00 were SUPERIOR compared to Indian team while that was NOT the case in NZ series India had a PROFESSIONAL COACH in John Wright for NZ series India LOST to a SHITTY TEAM NZ bowlers of the calibre of Oram, Tuffey, Adams and Styris Indian players were NOT making as much money in endorsement contracts in 1974 and 1991-1992 series India played with makeshift opener MSK Prasad and a flat track bully Devang Gandhi in 99/00 Aus series
Based on all these FACTS, NZ series was the WORST EVER.
"Dipak Basu" <dbasu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:W4qdnR7em69Gw-DYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com...> "Jayen" <rsc_poster@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1165833564.283801.249240@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...>> The 1974 tour of England was the worst. The gap>> between the teams wasn't as large, but the lack of team spirit led to>> us losing by huge margins.>
I will vote for the 1962 tour of West Indies. Not only was India > whitewashed 5-0, they almost lost skipper Nari Contractor's life, leading > to 22-yr-old Pataudi's baptism by fire. Apart from some hopeless > single-handed battles by Polly Umrigar, India was completely done in by > pace of Hall, Griffith and rookie Lester King.
Was the Indian team more talented than WI and expected to beat the WI team in that series ?
The 1952 tour of England, where India famously went 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 4-0 to > Freddie Trueman is equally forgettable except for Vinoo Mankad's call-up > from league cricket to death-defying performances.>
"Sampath" <Sampath425@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:457ef091$0$5829$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...>> I will vote for the 1962 tour of West Indies. Not only was India >> whitewashed 5-0, they almost lost skipper Nari Contractor's life, leading >> to 22-yr-old Pataudi's baptism by fire. Apart from some hopeless >> single-handed battles by Polly Umrigar, India was completely done in by >> pace of Hall, Griffith and rookie Lester King.>
Was the Indian team more talented than WI and expected to beat the WI team > in that series ?
Not at all - WI was full of superheroes - Hunte, Kanhai, Sobers, Hall, Gibbs, Griffith, etc.
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