Thursday, 18 December 2008
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| How come... Yeskay 00:11:32 |
| | Akhtar/Murali have actions that are not dodgy sometimes, but still chuck an odd one (and and even one for Murali). No chucks from Akhtar till now, his action looks awesome if he doesn't chuck.
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Tuesday, 14 October 2008
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| Hindus Are Praying To Their Gods For An Obama Win - Accuses American Pastor Arnold Conrad StraightDrive 06:06:20 |
| | Hindus Are Praying To Their Gods For An Obama Win - Accuses American Christian Pastor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g0d3_KE5js
American Pastor Arnold Conrad's speech in Iowa.
The Times' Maeve Reston was at the event, and she passed along the key passage from Conrad's words:
I would also pray Lord that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their God -- whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah -- that his [McCain's] opponent wins for a variety of reasons.
And Lord I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you would step forward and honor your own name in all that happens between now and Election Day.
Oh Lord, we just commit this time to you, move among us, make your presence very well felt as we are gathered here today in Jesus's name I pray.
Some in the crowd greeted the prayer with applause.
From LA Times
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/john-mccain-ral.html
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| Re: And there we go... (Andrew Dunford the sarcasm genius) StraightDrive 05:19:46 |
| | "Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message news:6lici3Fch4ckU1@mid.individual.net...
"RSX" <rgopalans@netscape.net> wrote in message news:3e1aeab0-945d-40a1-8a41-6dc20b95d6ba@75g2000hso.googlegroups.com... On Oct 13, 11:23 am, "Cicero" <moofie.cic...@gmail.com> wrote: "Villanova" <Villan...@VillanovaUniv.Com> wrote in message news:48f2df9e$0$23244$805e43db@news.usenetfast.com... vijaykum...@my-deja.com wrote: 85 overs is a far cry...8.5 overs and we are already Dravid gone, Sehwag gone. The one who could bat for a draw, the one who could biff a win. I felt Sehwags catch taken by Hayden in the slips was not entirely Wish the Indian idiot cameramen did a better job and shown that catch slomo in multiple angles. The bitching is starting already. No, it started when Hayden got out in the first innings. Well, at least the toss was carried out in good spirit. Andrew
Hahahahahahahahaaha......
You are sooooo funny Andrew.
I cannot wait for cricinfo geniuses to mention your great sarcasm skills again in one of their columns.
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| Re: And there we go... Villanova 04:55:56 |
| | vijaykumark@my-deja.com wrote:
85 overs is a far cry...8.5 overs and we are already in trouble. Dravid gone, Sehwag gone. The one who could bat for a draw, the one who could biff a win. Let's go home now. Vijay
I felt Sehwags catch taken by Hayden in the slips was not entirely clean. Wish the Indian idiot cameramen did a better job and shown that catch in slomo in multiple angles.
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| HHTC IvA T2 selections Mike Holmans 04:36:34 |
| | Here.
Cheers,
Mike --
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| HHTC BvNZ T1 selections Mike Holmans 04:30:04 |
| | http://www.jackalope.demon.co.uk/rules.html
Some people might actually benefit from reading the rules.
Cheers,
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| England 66 Mike Holmans 02:06:27 |
| | I just read a book about the 1966 West Indies tour of England, by John Clarke and Brian Scovell. Clarke was the Evening Standard's cricket correspondent and was commissioned to do the book on his own, but he died rather inconveniently during the series and Scovell was drafted in to complete it.
A bit of context may be helpful. MJK Smith, who had captained the team to a 1-0 victory in SA the previous winter, was captain for the First Test, which West Indies won by an innings. Colin Cowdrey took over for the next three Tests, most of which he lost, and then Brian Close was summoned for the dead rubber match which England won in the same sort of tone of renewed optimism as we saw at The Oval this summer. In all 25 players were selected, the only one to play in all five being, amazingly, Ken Higgs. Tom Graveney was a surprising recall at the age of 39, having last played for England on the 62-63 Ashes tour, but a number of new players were also tried: Colin Milburn, Basil d'Oliveira, Derek Underwood and Dennis Amiss.
Scovell was obviously the only one who could make the end-of-tour comments, which I shall now quote extensively as an interesting snapshot of where England were in September 1966, at least in one reporter's view. I shall also take the liberty of presenting it as a continuous piece of prose, though I am actually leaving out clauses and sentences which are repetitious or wander down avenues of little relevance.
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The backbone of the England batting was 39-year-old Tom Graveney, whose 459 runs at 76.50 apiece put him way out in front of the England averages. Graveney is turning out to be a latter-day Hobbs, getting better as he grows older. He says himself that he has never batted batter in his career than he has this season. He is by nature an aggressive batsman and this series must have quashed forever the belief that his temperament is suspect.
England's second most successful batsman - and he was dropped for his pains - was Colin Milburn with 316 runs at 52.66. If Milburn continues to score runs at his present rate next season he will have to come back to the Test arena, irrespective of whether he has lost weight.
Behind these two as England's top hits came the South-African-born Basil d'Oliveira, whose powerful shots lit up some of the gloomier days of the series. His bowling was also of inestimable value to England and I can see him playing in the England side for years to come.
Cowdrey's batting was a disappointment. Except for his 96 at Trent Bridge, he failed to play a commanding innings. Boycott, too, failed to provide the goods and if another grafting opener matures in the next year or so Boycott's place must be in danger unless he eliminates his weakness on and around the off stump.
Amiss is a promising newcomer but needs more experience before he can be spoken of as a successor to Cowdrey and Barrington. Eric Russell did not appear to have a straight enough bat to come back as an opening batsman and we could well see Amiss moving up to this position in a future series.
England's main weakness was in the fast bowling department. Higgs was straight and used the ball well but he is not a speed merchant. He doesn't terrify anyone. Snow was so badly thought of that he was originally dropped for The Oval Test. Well as he bowled, he has a long, long way to go before he can be considered a natural successor to Trueman. Snow is a wholehearted cricketer, but appears to be just a shade too slow to make the breakthrough by pace alone.
Barry Knight, like Derek Underwood, the left-arm economy bowler, showed himself to be short of Test class. Good county cricketers, both of them, but lacking in the highest grade. Underwood may come again, but he will have to learn to spin the ball first. The off-spin department was a letdown. Titmus, with five wickets at 38 apiece, was the most successful of the three tried but he is over the hill now. Allen played only at Old Trafford, disappointing on a pitch which should have suited him, and Illingworth owed his part in the victory celebrations at The Oval more to the recommendation of his county captain than to his own efforts on the field. Still, he is a spirited cricketer and this was something that as lacking from some of the bigger names when the pressure was really on earlier in the series.
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Forty years on, now that we know how their careers turned out, some of the comments on the newbies seem really weird - but they serve as a great reminder that it's often much too early to write people off or suggest that they have little future. Even "over the hill" Titmus's playing career did not finish for another 15 years.
Cheers,
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| Re: Ridiculous Appealing by Stuart Clarke vs Gambhir (FBI n NSA BRAGGING about their TORTURE TECHNOL Husband of All FBI n NSA Agents 01:11:10 |
| | <StraightDrive@y7mail.com> wrote in message news:f8818f36-b695-49da-9e2c-af4699faf3bf@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
HAHAHAHAHA.... You clowns do not realise that I am Villanova and Villanova is me ROFLMAO You boreturds are born to AMUSE me
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| Re: Bomb Obama - Cries And Screams RepubliKKKan Fascists Guest 00:46:16 |
| | On 11-Oct-2008, "Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote:
Give it up, fascists! The only fascists in this country are Democrats.
-- bill-o Play the ball as it lies. Play the course as you find it. And if you can t do either, do what is fair.
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| Re: Will this quote boomerang on India? Reverse Swing 00:19:45 |
| | "SultanOfSwing" <aslazrado@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message news:e5852f66-ba6b-488b-8235-ccc4cddbe0dd@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Zaheer Khan at the Man of the Match presentation ceremony. "I have never seen an Australian team play such defensive cricket, which is a good thing for us." Can't possibly boomerang. At worst, it would have no impact (likely scenario); at best, it would get a couple of Aussie cheats to play injudicious cricket (not likely). Gilchrist was the Cheatralian trump-card when it came to turning it on. He was the one who made aggressive cricket possible. Then there were those couple of loudmouths, McGrath and Warne, who had the ability to back their tall claims with actual results.
This side doesn't have the x-factor to play aggressively. Their better chance at winning is when they play attritional cricket, the kind they played in this Test.
SP
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Monday, 13 October 2008
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| ICL Quiz Lenin Maran 22:07:57 |
| | Who was released by Lancashire due to ICL links?
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| Re: Race for the Baggy Green Dechucka 18:36:22 |
| | "Southpaw" <arbit00@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b00ef4cc-820c-4193-b912-3f695f106813@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... Race for the Baggy Green FNI 2008 Race could be playing a role in Australian selection, writes Hamsa Shrirath from Bangalore
The Baggy Green cap traditionally worn by Australian test cricketers is a revered national symbol in that country. Only a few people, the elite, can claim to own one. Eddie Gilbert never had one, though perhaps he deserved to.
Gilbert was a Queensland fast bowler who once knocked Bradman s bat out of his hands, and dismissed him caught behind the very next ball, all in his very first over. Bradman recalled years later that the six deliveries he faced from Gilbert in that match were the fastest he had experienced in his career. The keeper took the ball over his head, and I reckon it was halfway to the boundary, he said, and added that Gilbert was unhesitatingly faster than Larwood or anyone else.
By chance or fate, Gilbert was born in an Aboriginal family. The Aborigines were dominated in their own native country by the immigrant whites. Gilbert s chances of playing Test cricket were thus not great. In fact, as an Aboriginal man living in Queensland in 1931, Eddie Gilbert was bound by the restrictions of the Protection of Aboriginals and Restriction of the Sale of Opium Act 1897. This meant that even setting off to play against Bradman he needed written permission to travel from the Aboriginal settlement he lived in.
Even today, with the non-white population in Australia growing exponentially, the national team has a decided flavour, with not a single coloured member in the current squad in India.
But toss the question into still water and you might not hear a splash. John Howard, the former Prime Minister of Australia, dismisses the notion altogether. I do not believe Australians are racist, he says. Chairman of Cricket Australia s National Selection Panel Andrew Hilditch says, Our goal is to pick the best possible Australian side at all times with a big of an eye for the future, as necessary.
Not everyone agrees. In an opinion piece in The Age, Waleed Aly, a lecturer in politics at Monash University, and of coloured heritage himself has written provocatively and critically of the domination of the whites. Australians have been cricket s great racial abusers, he says. Novelist and former cricket writer for The Age Malcolm Knox writes, Racism in this country is insidious and unadmitted. But it is everywhere. He adds, While English sporting clubs struggle to harmonise different cultures, Australian clubs fix the problem by leaving non-whites out.
The man sometimes rated Australia s best fielder, Andrew Symonds, is of coloured heritage. Even though he was a thorn in India s flesh in the last series between the two teams, he was dropped on the flimsy grounds that he went on a fishing trip. Jason Gillespie, a talented pace bowler who shared the new ball with McGrath, also has aboriginal blood. He was dropped despite scoring a double-century in his last test match, and despite having taken 259 wickets at an average of 26.13.
Despite his talents, Symonds was always mocked at home. Observers believed it was because of the dark colour of his skin. Symonds recalls that friends would have a joke to me about anything and any part of racism.
Some commentators believe colour is relevant in Australian cricket at a subconscious level. One ex-cricketer has suggested that the natives lack the necessary temperament to succeed at cricket. Malcolm Knox suggests that Darren Lehmann s outburst against a coloured player was just a product of his background, rather than a willful hatred.
Women s cricket may be able to change all this, with the emergence of Lisa Sthalekar, the Indian-born Australian women s vice-captain.
Cricket Australia s CEO James Sutherland believes more coloured players will emerge.
Our major challenge is helping make cricket accessible to Indigenous and minority groups, he says in a 2004 Cricket Australia media release.
Usman Khawaja who comes from that other world is already a popular Australian cricketer among their younger generation. Cricket historian Kersi Meher-Homji is quoted in the Sydney Morning Herald as saying Khawaja s emergence is a big breakthrough. He adds, It's always good to see a few new faces. More cultures will mean more people are playing and more people are going further with the sport. But you've got to reasonably expect that, because you're living in Australia, the majority will still be Anglo-Saxons. But a few new faces? It wouldn't hurt the game, and I'm pretty sure everyone would be inviting."
AUSTRALIAN TEST SIDE Ricky Ponting Michael Clarke Matthew Hayden Simon Katich Michael Hussey Cameron White Shane Watson Brad Haddin Brett Lee Mitchell Johnson Stuart Clark
Of the team s 11 players, all are white.
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and all of the Indian team is black.
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| Re: Original interview with ganguly (translated from bengali) King of Pain 18:24:15 |
| | <gophergoon@gmail.com> wrote in message
You got some Tamil tidbits you wanna share? Naah.. He just said that to establish that he wasn't a blind supporter of Ganguly owing to his Bengali heritage which a lot of SG's fans are.
P.S. The blind support is probably because he's a lefty methinks (I kid! I kid!)
Cheers! -- Vig
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| HHTC IvA T1 result Mike Holmans 16:32:26 |
| | Player scores: Gambhir (50) 17 Hayden (33) Katich (100) 68 Sehwag (32) Ponting (150) 94 Dravid (56) Hussey (177) 115 Tendulkar (62) Clarke (89) 17 Laxman (72) Watson (172) 99 Ganguly (73) Haddin (49) 33 Dhoni (16) Harbhajan (81) 73 White (8) Zaheer (286) 221 Lee (65) Johnson (192) 335 Kumble (-143) Sharma (279) 281 Clark (-2)
Game score:
MoM Bharat Rao
Bharat 268 Kipps 120 Steven 65 Sanjiv 14 Lenin 13 Halekala -4 Vezper -4 Geoff -52 Viglast -99 Jzfredricks -195 Sid -224 Vig -234 Sultan -276 Dodo -288 Luke -314 Mike -369 Mark -385 Aravind -684 Obama -684
Congrats to Bharat.
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| whats goin on - did india expect a walkover? Curious George 13:33:30 |
| | are the super duper stars so deserving a capitulation by the aussies?
quite cool that india being the centre of the cricket world means the local conditions are experienced by more and more internationals.
hopefully gives meritocracy a boost. bring on the new wave of indian talent.
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| Re: Recent Indian collapses -- learning from History Andrew Dunford 08:53:43 |
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<rao.bharat@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6019082d-5a13-4d9f-8efc-4b863bf6f608@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Recent times, India have done very poorly in trying to play out less than a day to save a Test. In Sydney they had 72 overs to negotiate, but flopped. Against Pakistan in Bangalore, with a sad yours truly in attendance, they went to lunch at 100/1 chasing 380-ish -- the crowd around me was murmuring faintly of an Indian win (just as some on rsc think we have a prayer of chasing 300 tomorrow), only to crash to 214ao, with about 4 overs left in the day. Against SL they had a couple of days to bat and couldn't manage one.. The track record isn't good, and this lot -- Dravid apart -- haven't really been very good at saving games. In fact, the only times I remember India saving games in recent times are Dhoni's rearguard with Sreesanth until the rain came at Lords, and harking back Tendulkar and Laxman against WI in Calcutta, VVSL against NZ in Kanpur (or was it Ahmedabad), and Parthiv Patel in his debut Test in England. VVSL v NZ at Mohali? NZ unexpectedly bowled out India short of the follow-on mark around about lunch time on D5 and had no option but to enforce the follow on. However they'd already been in the field for 172 overs, the pitch remained flat as a pancake until the end and the only surprise was that India managed to get themselves into a spot of bother in the first place.
Andrew
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| Re: First Single in 13 runs Villanova 08:39:43 |
| | Kavish3352 wrote:
With the score reading 13 for naught, just one run came off a single. Why do Indians depend too much on the big hits and run so few singles and twos? This is the result of too much Test Cricket and too few ODIs. ODIs place a premium on innovation, agility, athleticism and honest to goodness sport. Test Cricket is all about pretense and show. India will be a much better if it does the following: (1) Enforce fitness standards (2) Enforce athletic standards (endurance, speed, clearing a certain height in high jump, distance in broad jump etc.). Even if a player is a genius he should be dropped if he cannot meet those standards. And (3) Less Test Cricket and more ODI (with more rotation in the team). - Kavish
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| Re: Why is Tendulkar not getting a bowl? Pullimootai Doraisamy 08:17:46 |
| | guyana <guyanpersad@yahoo.com> wrote in news:665675b5-efd5-4087-ab11- 3c302d1753d8@k16g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
On Oct 13, 12:24 am, Kavish3352 <kavish3...@gmail.com> wrote: Recall that he actually turns his leg breaks. And he has given us many breakthroughs. And he picked three Aussie scalps in that famous test in Calcutta. When he was asked to bowl in RSA he got an important breakthrough in the final test (Gibbs/Kallis or somebody well set that SRT got caught by Sher Dil Sehwag). Ganguly was the guy who used Tendulkar most effectively. Tendulakr under Ganguly was a pretty effective bowler. Sort of India's Mudassar Nassar - the man with the golden arm. And he has not been given a bowl. While Kumble wheels in and wheels out and gets not even a bloody edge. Can't turn the ball, cant turn the game around and can't turn it on. And this is home town in the Kannadi heartland. Meanwhile Sachin waits patiently. And so does India. Ah, fucking South Indians?? Spit that disgusting red paan juice yet, Bihari biatch?
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| Re: Declaration, put your $ where your mouth is.. Dechucka 07:53:08 |
| | "jzfredricks" <jzfredricks@gmail.com> wrote in message news:c94c0540-e8bb-4832-a891-a0412b3065de@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Many times people, post-fact, criticise captains for declaring too early, too late, or at all. So here's your chance... when do you think Ponting should declare? As I type Aus has a lead of 178, 7 wickets in hand, and 23+90 overs remaining. I'd bat semi-cautiously with Hussey and Clarke until a lead of 220, then I'd go crazy. Watson, Haddin and White are all probably better ODI players than Test. I'd bat for 15 overs tomorrow, and leave myself about 75 overs and 310-ish runs to defend. Only reason I'd bat 'so long' is Sehwag, who can score @ 5 per over by himself. Agree with Rao bat for 50minutes this morning ( and give it a real go ) and set India 300+ in 21/2 to score them or to survive. Draw most likely
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