Lewis retired as the Linear Champ, but I was wondering who the Linear Champion is now. I have heard arguments that is would be Wladimir Klitschko, for his destruction of Byrd, or Maskaev for his ko of Rahman.
Who is it? There can be only one Linear Heavyweight Champion.
"STRATEGY" <Strategy510@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1158696673.571464.235580@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...>
Orpheus wrote:>> Lewis retired as the Linear Champ, but I was wondering who the Linear>> Champion is now. I have heard arguments that is would be Wladimir>> Klitschko, for his destruction of Byrd, or Maskaev for his ko of Rahman.>>
Who is it? There can be only one Linear Heavyweight Champion.>
I recall someone saying that Shannon Briggs was the last linear champ.>
I forgot what the exact mathematics behind that was..>
From your post, I think you're confusing the Ring magazine champ with> the linear champ.>
Currently the Ring title is vacant, as it should be (and as it> should've been when they incorrectly decided that Vitaly K was the Ring> champ).>
STRATEGY>
No, not the Ring Championship...I mean the Linear title...the man who beat the man. Yes, Briggs won it with his defeat of Foreman, and Lewis took it from Shannon Briggs. Lewis lost it to Rahman, won it back from Rahman, and retired as the Linear Champ.
With Lennox retired, there has to be a dominant champion who can be declared as the next Linear champ, at least that's the way I have always seen it. One could argue that it's Maskaev or Wladimir. No, not Tunney, but I like Gene to beat either of these guys
History Fan 20 September 2006 15:53:47 [ permanent link ]
I could be mistaken, and I lost my Ring back issues in a move several> years ago, but as I recall they recognized Holmes as the champion, not> when he beat Ali but rather when Weaver beat Tate due to their earlier> head to head bout.
I'm fairly certain Ring Magazine had the heavyweight title declared as 'vacant' until Holmes beat Ali in Oct. 1980.
I think Lewis was the last linear champ, as he beat Briggs.
Mr.Will
"STRATEGY" <Strategy510@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1158696673.571464.235580@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...>
Orpheus wrote:>> Lewis retired as the Linear Champ, but I was wondering who the Linear>> Champion is now. I have heard arguments that is would be Wladimir>> Klitschko, for his destruction of Byrd, or Maskaev for his ko of Rahman.>>
Who is it? There can be only one Linear Heavyweight Champion.>
I recall someone saying that Shannon Briggs was the last linear champ.>
I forgot what the exact mathematics behind that was..>
From your post, I think you're confusing the Ring magazine champ with> the linear champ.>
Currently the Ring title is vacant, as it should be (and as it> should've been when they incorrectly decided that Vitaly K was the Ring> champ).>
"History Fan" <UnknownPlacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message news:f4035$45112ba7$48311160$22033@FUSE.NET...>> I could be mistaken, and I lost my Ring back issues in a move several>> years ago, but as I recall they recognized Holmes as the champion, not>> when he beat Ali but rather when Weaver beat Tate due to their earlier>> head to head bout.>
I'm fairly certain Ring Magazine had the heavyweight title declared > as 'vacant' until Holmes beat Ali in Oct. 1980.
I'm also remember it being when Weaver beat Tate.
The logic at the time was with only two world champions and Holmes had already beat Weaver he would be the true champion.
Vitali's 2 defeats were injuries that were stopped by Dr.s He even retired because of injuries. A cut and shoulder seperation aren't exactly the same as 2 one punch knockout defeats, but the result was the same. They were both injuries that kept him from continuing his beatdowns. G lad to clear it up for you. "The Arranger" <scrchctc@aol.com> wrote in message news:1159060639.768202.260250@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...>
yehuda@nyc.rr.com wrote:>> There's no coincidence why both Lewis & Klitschko both lost twice in the>> same manner. This was just to show the world that they both had their>> weaknesses. No god involved more like fate or karma.>
Oh, okay.I always thought it was coincidence that they lost twice in> the same manner, if two stoppages by knockout is the same as one> stoppage on cuts and one on a shoulder injury. For a while, I thought> you were being superstitious. Thanks for straightening me out on why> they lost.>
Think of it Vitali>> could of knockedout 20 people in a row and it would not of changed the>> perception of him as heartless. He needed to show the world the exact>> opposite to clear his name and he more than did that because of the cut. >> I>> guess it was a positive that he got stopped on those cuts.>
You keep saying that, and your logic now compels me to agree. I will> also use "could of" instead of "could have" in my writing in the> future.>
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:47:19 -0700, Loki <cubby77267@aol.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:28:45 GMT, <yehuda@nyc.rr.com> wrote:>
You getting soft on me. You want reality, i'll give you reality. You are >>here right now because of me. >
Not even close. I was here before you darkened our door and will be>here when you go out with the trash. I am here because I am a fan of>boxing and of boxers. I am also here because I enjoy sharing>knowledgeable insights with other people who know something about>either subject, a brethren that does not include you.>
Loki
It seems we have a challenge going on here for the RSB regulars to view.
I am an Rsb regular. I'm one of you. There's no challenge. I don't see a challenge. Like i said, publish and book the entire thread for all the rsb regulars so they can get a dose of reality too. I'm open to a new fan base besides you and Koki! "DCI" <never@comcast.com> wrote in message news:94seh25ciiah0d4j8ofgl9j2ms0csb2rq4@4ax.com...> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:47:19 -0700, Loki <cubby77267@aol.com> wrote:>
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:28:45 GMT, <yehuda@nyc.rr.com> wrote:>>
You getting soft on me. You want reality, i'll give you reality. You are>>>here right now because of me.>>
Not even close. I was here before you darkened our door and will be>>here when you go out with the trash. I am here because I am a fan of>>boxing and of boxers. I am also here because I enjoy sharing>>knowledgeable insights with other people who know something about>>either subject, a brethren that does not include you.>>
Loki>
It seems we have a challenge going on here for the RSB regulars to> view.>
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:12:34 GMT, <yehuda@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
I am an Rsb regular. I'm one of you. There's no challenge. I don't see a >challenge. Like i said, publish and book the entire thread for all the rsb >regulars so they can get a dose of reality too. I'm open to a new fan base >besides you and Koki!
No need to apologize. Now if Loki had as much class as you this thread would of not turned out the way it did. "DCI" <never@comcast.com> wrote in message news:vn0fh2pgdsup0ooj1m6e5r4vbn1ak0sfg3@4ax.com...> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:12:34 GMT, <yehuda@nyc.rr.com> wrote:>
I am an Rsb regular. I'm one of you. There's no challenge. I don't see a>>challenge. Like i said, publish and book the entire thread for all the >>rsb>>regulars so they can get a dose of reality too. I'm open to a new fan base>>besides you and Koki!>
Manfred Ginger 28 September 2006 21:47:15 [ permanent link ]
yehuda@nyc.rr.com wrote:
that i applaud you. I guess you have taken me the distance. You are my Timo > Hoffman, you have gone all 12 rds and barely survived and that is something > to be proud of. The only problem is the pummeling you received throughout, > you tried to rally at the end as i was tiring and that is to be commended. > To be the only one to take me the distance is a major coup as you will be a > trivia answer some day just like Hoffman.
I love this guy. He's funny and he's right, great combination.
You should be proud that you did not get ktfo, but then again you did > receive a patented Vk beatdown and were holding on for dear life so you can > tell everybody you lasted the distance.
Thank You for the support as i am badly outnumbered here. You are the only one that seems to recognize greatness. I appreciate the props and will pass it on to Vk. "Manfred Ginger" <mango@sofortsurf.de> wrote in message news:451C0AA3.8050601@offline.de...> yehuda@nyc.rr.com wrote:>
that i applaud you. I guess you have taken me the distance. You are my >> Timo>> Hoffman, you have gone all 12 rds and barely survived and that is >> something>> to be proud of. The only problem is the pummeling you received >> throughout,>> you tried to rally at the end as i was tiring and that is to be >> commended.>> To be the only one to take me the distance is a major coup as you will be >> a>> trivia answer some day just like Hoffman.>
I love this guy. He's funny and he's right, great combination.>
You should be proud that you did not get ktfo, but then again you did>> receive a patented Vk beatdown and were holding on for dear life so you >> can>> tell everybody you lasted the distance.>
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