On 20 Oct 2005 20:50:10 -0700, mousemo@hotmail.com wrote:
Just curious, how easy is it to tip over a 14' or 16' fiberglass boat?>Something with a 'V' hull, probably a small outboard motor, assume calm>water. When I say tip over I'm talking about someone trying to climb>back in one if they fell out. Would it tip over pretty easily or could>you heave yourself back into it over the side?
Unlikely, but it would be best to board at the stern and use a boarding ladder as boats of this type are hard to enter from the water without some kind of assistance.
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:> On 20 Oct 2005 20:50:10 -0700, mousemo@hotmail.com wrote:>
Just curious, how easy is it to tip over a 14' or 16' fiberglass boat?>>Something with a 'V' hull, probably a small outboard motor, assume calm>>water. When I say tip over I'm talking about someone trying to climb>>back in one if they fell out. Would it tip over pretty easily or could>>you heave yourself back into it over the side? >
Unlikely, but it would be best to board at the stern and use a> boarding ladder as boats of this type are hard to enter from the water> without some kind of assistance.
Actually, in rough seas, it might be easier to enter at the beam. When we had the Mirage 33 at our 'summer club', the mooring field was open to prevaling winds. On very windy days the boat would be like a bucking bronco as we tried to use the stern swim ladder.
Others have mentioned a boarding ladder, which is a great idea. But, don't try and save storage space by getting the kind whose steps are attached to lengths of rope. When you climb onto the first or second steps, which are underwater, your weight pushes them under the boat, thereby making the whole contraption useless. If you need proof of this, and will pay collect shipping charges, I'd be happy to send you my rope ladder.
Shortwave Sportfishing 21 October 2005 18:40:32 [ permanent link ]
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:18:58 GMT, Don White <whited@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:>> On 20 Oct 2005 20:50:10 -0700, mousemo@hotmail.com wrote:>>
Just curious, how easy is it to tip over a 14' or 16' fiberglass boat?>>>Something with a 'V' hull, probably a small outboard motor, assume calm>>>water. When I say tip over I'm talking about someone trying to climb>>>back in one if they fell out. Would it tip over pretty easily or could>>>you heave yourself back into it over the side? >>
Unlikely, but it would be best to board at the stern and use a>> boarding ladder as boats of this type are hard to enter from the water>> without some kind of assistance.>
Actually, in rough seas, it might be easier to enter at the beam.>When we had the Mirage 33 at our 'summer club', the mooring field was >open to prevaling winds. On very windy days the boat would be like a >bucking bronco as we tried to use the stern swim ladder.
Shortwave Sportfishing 21 October 2005 18:41:41 [ permanent link ]
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:25:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote:
Others have mentioned a boarding ladder, which is a great idea. But, don't >try and save storage space by getting the kind whose steps are attached to >lengths of rope. When you climb onto the first or second steps, which are >underwater, your weight pushes them under the boat, thereby making the whole >contraption useless. If you need proof of this, and will pay collect >shipping charges, I'd be happy to send you my rope ladder.
I've never had a problem and I've...well, we'll just leave alone, shall we?
"Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetwothree@four.com> wrote in message news:j03il1h9vpffcsfrp2oj3h7l6so82sio23@4ax.com...> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:25:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter"> <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote:>
Others have mentioned a boarding ladder, which is a great idea. But, don't>>try and save storage space by getting the kind whose steps are attached to>>lengths of rope. When you climb onto the first or second steps, which are>>underwater, your weight pushes them under the boat, thereby making the >>whole>>contraption useless. If you need proof of this, and will pay collect>>shipping charges, I'd be happy to send you my rope ladder.>
I've never had a problem and I've...well, we'll just leave alone,> shall we?
I'm 6'2", 170 lbs, and can do 15-20 chinups when my $(!#_friggin shoulder's not aching. Perhaps the performance of rope ladders depends on the design of the boat.
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:18:58 GMT, Don White <whited@ns.sympatico.ca>> wrote:>
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:>>
On 20 Oct 2005 20:50:10 -0700, mousemo@hotmail.com wrote:>>>
Just curious, how easy is it to tip over a 14' or 16' fiberglass boat?>>>>Something with a 'V' hull, probably a small outboard motor, assume calm>>>>water. When I say tip over I'm talking about someone trying to climb>>>>back in one if they fell out. Would it tip over pretty easily or could>>>>you heave yourself back into it over the side? >>>
Unlikely, but it would be best to board at the stern and use a>>>boarding ladder as boats of this type are hard to enter from the water>>>without some kind of assistance.>>
Actually, in rough seas, it might be easier to enter at the beam.>>When we had the Mirage 33 at our 'summer club', the mooring field was >>open to prevaling winds. On very windy days the boat would be like a >>bucking bronco as we tried to use the stern swim ladder.>
Good point.
On my modest Sandpiper 565, I installed a stainless steel 4 step transom ladder this summer, but I'll keep the foldup hook type ladder that came with the boat.
Harry Krause 21 October 2005 19:39:12 [ permanent link ]
Don White wrote:> Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:18:58 GMT, Don White <whited@ns.sympatico.ca>>> wrote:>>
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:>>>
On 20 Oct 2005 20:50:10 -0700, mousemo@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>
Just curious, how easy is it to tip over a 14' or 16' fiberglass boat?>>>>> Something with a 'V' hull, probably a small outboard motor, assume calm>>>>> water. When I say tip over I'm talking about someone trying to climb>>>>> back in one if they fell out. Would it tip over pretty easily or could>>>>> you heave yourself back into it over the side? >>>>
Unlikely, but it would be best to board at the stern and use a>>>> boarding ladder as boats of this type are hard to enter from the water>>>> without some kind of assistance.>>> Actually, in rough seas, it might be easier to enter at the beam.>>> When we had the Mirage 33 at our 'summer club', the mooring field was >>> open to prevaling winds. On very windy days the boat would be like a >>> bucking bronco as we tried to use the stern swim ladder.>>
Good point.> On my modest Sandpiper 565, I installed a stainless steel 4 step transom > ladder this summer, but I'll keep the foldup hook type ladder that came > with the boat.
My Parker came with an Armstrong boarding ladder. It's stainless and attaches to a bracket on the side of the engine bracket. It came with some holders that allow it to be affixed to the outside of the transom. I've not done this yet, but I am planning to install them so that if I slip overboard, I will be able to reach the ladder and slip it into its bracket. There's no way to climb aboard the Parker if you fall into the water. It's not easy to get up on the engine bracket when the boat is still, because it is fairly high out of the water.
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:18:58 GMT, Don White <whited@ns.sympatico.ca>>>> wrote:>>>
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:>>>>
On 20 Oct 2005 20:50:10 -0700, mousemo@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>
Just curious, how easy is it to tip over a 14' or 16' fiberglass >>>>>> boat?>>>>>> Something with a 'V' hull, probably a small outboard motor, assume >>>>>> calm>>>>>> water. When I say tip over I'm talking about someone trying to climb>>>>>> back in one if they fell out. Would it tip over pretty easily or >>>>>> could>>>>>> you heave yourself back into it over the side? >>>>>
Unlikely, but it would be best to board at the stern and use a>>>>> boarding ladder as boats of this type are hard to enter from the water>>>>> without some kind of assistance.>>>>
Actually, in rough seas, it might be easier to enter at the beam.>>>> When we had the Mirage 33 at our 'summer club', the mooring field >>>> was open to prevaling winds. On very windy days the boat would be >>>> like a bucking bronco as we tried to use the stern swim ladder.>>>
Good point.>>
On my modest Sandpiper 565, I installed a stainless steel 4 step >> transom ladder this summer, but I'll keep the foldup hook type ladder >> that came with the boat.>
My Parker came with an Armstrong boarding ladder. It's stainless and > attaches to a bracket on the side of the engine bracket. It came with > some holders that allow it to be affixed to the outside of the transom. > I've not done this yet, but I am planning to install them so that if I > slip overboard, I will be able to reach the ladder and slip it into its > bracket. There's no way to climb aboard the Parker if you fall into the > water. It's not easy to get up on the engine bracket when the boat is > still, because it is fairly high out of the water.>
Climb up on the motor - assuming it's not running. I've done that dozens of times.
Harry Krause 22 October 2005 02:17:01 [ permanent link ]
Dan Krueger wrote:> Harry Krause wrote:>
Don White wrote:>>
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:>>>
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:18:58 GMT, Don White <whited@ns.sympatico.ca>>>>> wrote:>>>>
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:>>>>>
On 20 Oct 2005 20:50:10 -0700, mousemo@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>
Just curious, how easy is it to tip over a 14' or 16' fiberglass >>>>>>> boat?>>>>>>> Something with a 'V' hull, probably a small outboard motor, assume >>>>>>> calm>>>>>>> water. When I say tip over I'm talking about someone trying to climb>>>>>>> back in one if they fell out. Would it tip over pretty easily or >>>>>>> could>>>>>>> you heave yourself back into it over the side? >>>>>>
Unlikely, but it would be best to board at the stern and use a>>>>>> boarding ladder as boats of this type are hard to enter from the water>>>>>> without some kind of assistance.>>>>> Actually, in rough seas, it might be easier to enter at the beam.>>>>> When we had the Mirage 33 at our 'summer club', the mooring field >>>>> was open to prevaling winds. On very windy days the boat would be >>>>> like a bucking bronco as we tried to use the stern swim ladder.>>>>
Good point.>>> On my modest Sandpiper 565, I installed a stainless steel 4 step >>> transom ladder this summer, but I'll keep the foldup hook type ladder >>> that came with the boat.>>
My Parker came with an Armstrong boarding ladder. It's stainless and >> attaches to a bracket on the side of the engine bracket. It came with >> some holders that allow it to be affixed to the outside of the transom. >> I've not done this yet, but I am planning to install them so that if I >> slip overboard, I will be able to reach the ladder and slip it into its >> bracket. There's no way to climb aboard the Parker if you fall into the >> water. It's not easy to get up on the engine bracket when the boat is >> still, because it is fairly high out of the water.>>
Climb up on the motor - assuming it's not running. I've done that > dozens of times.>
Dan
Yeah, I do that now when I don't want to mess with the ladder.
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