Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.
On Mon, 30 May 2005 10:30:38 -0700, "JG" <jganz@sailnow.invalid> wrote:
"5200" <herodotus@washere.com> wrote in message >news:rt1m915qc8ou0r5u431i8k6ce3l0idluqm@4ax.com...>> Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do>> you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas>> outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.>
It depends a lot on what boat you have, how much crew, what time of year, etc. The major part of this trip is Seattle to San Francisco. Most folks go in late Aug, early Sept.. After you get out of the Straits and turn left, you can plan on getting a wide variety of winds. Everything from days of dead calm, to nice NW down wind run, to on the nose, to screaming 35kts+. Cape Mendicinco is where the worst of it usually hits. Most of the ports on the way down are river mouths and can be hairy to enter in rough conditions. Stops often include Newport in OR, Crescent City or Eureka in CA. And then San Fran.
Paul "5200" <herodotus@washere.com> wrote in message news:rt1m915qc8ou0r5u431i8k6ce3l0idluqm@4ax.com...> Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do> you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas> outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.
"5200" <herodotus@washere.com> wrote in message news:0s1o915vf210fs4qtem9bj5na2mvbpkb77@4ax.com...> On Mon, 30 May 2005 10:30:38 -0700, "JG" <jganz@sailnow.invalid>> wrote:>
"5200" <herodotus@washere.com> wrote in message>>news:rt1m915qc8ou0r5u431i8k6ce3l0idluqm@4ax.com...>>> Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do>>> you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas>>> outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.>>
It starts in San Diego. I'm in Seattle. thanks, though.
Actually, it starts in San Francisco. You can get lots of info with a fairly simple google search for ports between SF and San Diego if not from latitude38.com, and there must be plenty of places to put it between Seattle and SF.
On Mon, 30 May 2005 12:35:29 GMT, 5200 <herodotus@washere.com> wrote:
Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do>you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas>outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.
That's always the question....harbor hop, or go offshore. According to the "World Cruising Routes", the best route between Seattle and San Francisco is to go offshore 100 miles. This assumes the boat and crew are up to it. Part of the reason is that you'll have a favorable current and steadier winds. The whole west coast is a lee shore when the prevailing winds, out of the W and NW are blowing. The Capes are no fun either if it's stormy. As another poster pointed out, entering the few ports enroute usually require crossing nasty river bars.
If you want to avoid SF, aim for Pillar Point (Half-Moon Bay)....small and well protected. From there it's a day's hop to Monterey..another nice stop. From there it's a long one to Santa Barbara, you'll pass Cape Conception enroute. If you have to duck in because of weather, be sure to treat Morro Bay with caution...may be better to "go outside" From SB to San Diego, with an optional stop at Catalina, and you're home free. Don't miss San Diego just because it's a 'big' city. Besides you'll have to do the paperwork 'stuff' to continue on to Mexico. Try Shelter Island Marina. I've been there several times, and always have enjoyed it.
Charlie's Charts of the US Pacific Coast may be of help too.
"engsol" <juniper@telcomplus.net> wrote in message news:saep915j1nv8jv3550lr4d7k1bedletqg6@4ax.com...> On Mon, 30 May 2005 12:35:29 GMT, 5200 <herodotus@washere.com> wrote:>
Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do>>you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas>>outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.>
That's always the question....harbor hop, or go offshore. According to> the "World Cruising Routes", the best route between Seattle and San > Francisco> is to go offshore 100 miles. This assumes the boat and crew are up to it.> Part of the reason is that you'll have a favorable current and steadier > winds.> The whole west coast is a lee shore when the prevailing winds, out of the > W and NW> are blowing. The Capes are no fun either if it's stormy. As another poster > pointed> out, entering the few ports enroute usually require crossing nasty river > bars.>
If you want to avoid SF, aim for Pillar Point (Half-Moon Bay)....small and > well protected.> From there it's a day's hop to Monterey..another nice stop. From there > it's a long one> to Santa Barbara, you'll pass Cape Conception enroute. If you have to duck > in because> of weather, be sure to treat Morro Bay with caution...may be better to "go > outside"> From SB to San Diego, with an optional stop at Catalina, and you're home > free.> Don't miss San Diego just because it's a 'big' city. Besides you'll have > to do the> paperwork 'stuff' to continue on to Mexico. Try Shelter Island Marina. > I've been there> several times, and always have enjoyed it.>
Charlie's Charts of the US Pacific Coast may be of help too.>
Norm B.
Last I went down the coast from SF to Cabo, we were 100-150 offshore. It was easy, but not particularly interesting. Next time, I think I'll harbor hop if at all possible.
5200 wrote:> Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do> you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas> outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.
Lots of small harbours all along the coast. More the further south you go. WA and OR have few "all weather" harbour entrances.
I would not go 200 miles out because if the weather turns foul and you want to run for shelter then you're at least a day or so away from the coast.
It's up to you where you want to stop - "Charlie's Charts of the (US?) West Coast" is a decent guidebook
"Evan Gatehouse" <ceilydhNO_SPAM@3web.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:429d3849_2@news.cybersurf.net...> 5200 wrote:>> Are there customary stopovers for fuel and parts, half&half etc? Or do>> you stay 200 miles out the whole way down? Are there smaller marinas>> outside huge industrial areas like SF and San Diego? Thanks.>
Lots of small harbours all along the coast. More the further south you > go. WA and OR have few "all weather" harbour entrances.>
I would not go 200 miles out because if the weather turns foul and you > want to run for shelter then you're at least a day or so away from the > coast.>
It's up to you where you want to stop - "Charlie's Charts of the (US?) > West Coast" is a decent guidebook>
Evan Gatehouse
Errr.... The safest place to be is either far enough away from the coast to not have to worry about hitting it in a storm or close enough to get into a storm hole.
