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Re: GM loses big-time

Larry 4 August 2008 06:53:49
 Tim <tschnautz@gmail.co­m> wrote in news:a4045281-3a97-­4305-8ae4-
4f19e64b754b@25g200­0hsx.googlegroups.co­m:

Well, they didn't call Joe Lucas the "Black ([K]night" or the "Prince
of Darkness" for nothing.
Q. why do the british drink warm beer?
A. Because Lucas builds refrigerators, too!

With Italian cars and motorcycles, one could say the same thing of Magneti
Marelli....(c;

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Larry 5 August 2008 03:38:22 permanent link ]
 Tim <tschnautz@gmail.co­m> wrote in news:3f78bd39-2c13-­4acb-9ae5-
e62df038a718@e53g20­00hsa.googlegroups.c­om:

Interesting enough. Marelli own's some joint production with Lucas.
"the blind leadeth the blind..."

The pretty much describes driving a Moto Guzzi at night!

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Larry 5 August 2008 16:08:52 permanent link ]
 Tim <tschnautz@gmail.co­m> wrote in news:7e6b6b40-3ade-­4572-917c-
fe6ef8fb9662@r66g20­00hsg.googlegroups.c­om:

Evenw ith the old Generator, I never really had any proble with mine.
But To note, that the "gen" light in the dash always did glow. I never
figured that one out....

A DC generator, unlike the alternators used today, only generates power
after a certain RPM threshold, caused by the counter EMF of the battery.
There are no blocking diodes, so a generator is actually a LOAD with
current backing up through it at low speed....or, worse yet, not turning at
all, which cooks whichever rotor and commutator core it happens to be
sitting on at the time.

This is why old people are always so crazy about NOT leaving the key on
when their car isn't running. The modern car, it makes no difference. The
old cars, it cooked the generators and contact ignition systems, killing
the battery in the process.

My Guzzi Marelli problem was always switches, in the handle bars. They
corroded in the rain and you rode in the dark or it wouldn't run...or it
wouldn't crank, and had no foot crank on it. Replacing the entire handle
bar assembly including electrics with one from a wrecked Honda 750 cured
this problem for the rest of their lives.

I lost a starter, once. It's core came apart. Being in rural SC, my only
choice was an auto electric shop that looked like it had been in business
since rewinding Ford coils in the 1920's. The owner, a nice old guy,
pulled it apart to look, shook his head we weren't gonna fix that one and
said, "This is just a Fiat starter running backwards. Let me pull the gear
off the end of it and put it on a rebuilt Fiat starter and you'll be fine.
You can't beat expertise in any field. He instructed his worker what to
do, an hour later they had it mounted back on my Guzzi and she cranked
right up. It was on there when I sold it years later. The points in its
little distributor were also the same as the Fiat rear engine Spider I also
owned at the time.

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Hk 5 August 2008 16:17:10 permanent link ]
 Larry wrote:
Tim <tschnautz@gmail.co­m> wrote in news:7e6b6b40-3ade-­4572-917c-
fe6ef8fb9662@r66g20­00hsg.googlegroups.c­om:
Evenw ith the old Generator, I never really had any proble with mine.
But To note, that the "gen" light in the dash always did glow. I never
figured that one out....
A DC generator, unlike the alternators used today, only generates power
after a certain RPM threshold, caused by the counter EMF of the battery.
There are no blocking diodes, so a generator is actually a LOAD with
current backing up through it at low speed....or, worse yet, not turning at
all, which cooks whichever rotor and commutator core it happens to be
sitting on at the time.
This is why old people are always so crazy about NOT leaving the key on
when their car isn't running. The modern car, it makes no difference. The
old cars, it cooked the generators and contact ignition systems, killing
the battery in the process.
My Guzzi Marelli problem was always switches, in the handle bars. They
corroded in the rain and you rode in the dark or it wouldn't run...or it
wouldn't crank, and had no foot crank on it. Replacing the entire handle
bar assembly including electrics with one from a wrecked Honda 750 cured
this problem for the rest of their lives.
I lost a starter, once. It's core came apart. Being in rural SC, my only
choice was an auto electric shop that looked like it had been in business
since rewinding Ford coils in the 1920's. The owner, a nice old guy,
pulled it apart to look, shook his head we weren't gonna fix that one and
said, "This is just a Fiat starter running backwards. Let me pull the gear
off the end of it and put it on a rebuilt Fiat starter and you'll be fine.
You can't beat expertise in any field. He instructed his worker what to
do, an hour later they had it mounted back on my Guzzi and she cranked
right up. It was on there when I sold it years later. The points in its
little distributor were also the same as the Fiat rear engine Spider I also
owned at the time.


There are rumors that FIAT is planning to re-enter the American
market...again.

I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car.
Now they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful
cars.

But the prettiest awful car I ever had was an MG-A. Gorgeous, white with
red leather. Looked very pretty sitting in the driveway where I lived in
Kansas City. That's where it spent most of its time, too, sitting in the
driveway. It was a mechanical and electrical P.O.S. It was sort of like
the girl I was dating at the time...very pretty, with really nice
upholstery, but it was damned hard to start her up and keep her running.



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Bar 5 August 2008 16:20:28 permanent link ]
 hk wrote:
Larry wrote:
Tim <tschnautz@gmail.co­m> wrote in news:7e6b6b40-3ade-­4572-917c-
fe6ef8fb9662@r66g20­00hsg.googlegroups.c­om:
Evenw ith the old Generator, I never really had any proble with mine.
But To note, that the "gen" light in the dash always did glow. I never
figured that one out....
A DC generator, unlike the alternators used today, only generates
power after a certain RPM threshold, caused by the counter EMF of the
battery. There are no blocking diodes, so a generator is actually a
LOAD with current backing up through it at low speed....or, worse yet,
not turning at all, which cooks whichever rotor and commutator core it
happens to be sitting on at the time.
This is why old people are always so crazy about NOT leaving the key
on when their car isn't running. The modern car, it makes no
difference. The old cars, it cooked the generators and contact
ignition systems, killing the battery in the process.
My Guzzi Marelli problem was always switches, in the handle bars.
They corroded in the rain and you rode in the dark or it wouldn't
run...or it wouldn't crank, and had no foot crank on it. Replacing
the entire handle bar assembly including electrics with one from a
wrecked Honda 750 cured this problem for the rest of their lives.
I lost a starter, once. It's core came apart. Being in rural SC, my
only choice was an auto electric shop that looked like it had been in
business since rewinding Ford coils in the 1920's. The owner, a nice
old guy, pulled it apart to look, shook his head we weren't gonna fix
that one and said, "This is just a Fiat starter running backwards.
Let me pull the gear off the end of it and put it on a rebuilt Fiat
starter and you'll be fine. You can't beat expertise in any field.
He instructed his worker what to do, an hour later they had it mounted
back on my Guzzi and she cranked right up. It was on there when I
sold it years later. The points in its little distributor were also
the same as the Fiat rear engine Spider I also owned at the time.
There are rumors that FIAT is planning to re-enter the American
market...again.
I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car.
Now they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful
cars.
But the prettiest awful car I ever had was an MG-A. Gorgeous, white with
red leather. Looked very pretty sitting in the driveway where I lived in
Kansas City. That's where it spent most of its time, too, sitting in the
driveway. It was a mechanical and electrical P.O.S. It was sort of like
the girl I was dating at the time...very pretty, with really nice
upholstery, but it was damned hard to start her up and keep her running.

Did you ever think it might be the operator and not the equipment?
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Eisboch 5 August 2008 16:23:13 permanent link ]
 
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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The points in its
little distributor were also the same as the Fiat rear engine Spider I
also
owned at the time.


850 Spider?

We've had two of those. The first was while living in Italy .... the
little 2 seater "sports car" convertible version.
The second we had later back in the states ... a hardtop, sorta fastback
version.

I wanted to bring the one in Italy back with me but it didn't meet US safety
standards.
It was a fun car.

Eisboch


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Eisboch 5 August 2008 16:26:58 permanent link ]
 
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car. Now
they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful cars.


The 850 Spider we had in Italy looked just like this .... same color even
...

http://www.motorbas­e.com/uploads/2005/0­9/30/fs_my_850_14.jp­g

Eisboch


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Jim 5 August 2008 16:49:38 permanent link ]
 
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
news:d9GdnQzIDrlMzw­XVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@c­omcast.com...
Larry wrote:
Tim <tschnautz@gmail.co­m> wrote in news:7e6b6b40-3ade-­4572-917c-
fe6ef8fb9662@r66g20­00hsg.googlegroups.c­om:
Evenw ith the old Generator, I never really had any proble with mine.
But To note, that the "gen" light in the dash always did glow. I never
figured that one out....
A DC generator, unlike the alternators used today, only generates power
after a certain RPM threshold, caused by the counter EMF of the battery.
There are no blocking diodes, so a generator is actually a LOAD with
current backing up through it at low speed....or, worse yet, not turning
at all, which cooks whichever rotor and commutator core it happens to be
sitting on at the time.
This is why old people are always so crazy about NOT leaving the key on
when their car isn't running. The modern car, it makes no difference.
The old cars, it cooked the generators and contact ignition systems,
killing the battery in the process.
My Guzzi Marelli problem was always switches, in the handle bars. They
corroded in the rain and you rode in the dark or it wouldn't run...or it
wouldn't crank, and had no foot crank on it. Replacing the entire handle
bar assembly including electrics with one from a wrecked Honda 750 cured
this problem for the rest of their lives.
I lost a starter, once. It's core came apart. Being in rural SC, my
only choice was an auto electric shop that looked like it had been in
business since rewinding Ford coils in the 1920's. The owner, a nice old
guy, pulled it apart to look, shook his head we weren't gonna fix that
one and said, "This is just a Fiat starter running backwards. Let me
pull the gear off the end of it and put it on a rebuilt Fiat starter and
you'll be fine. You can't beat expertise in any field. He instructed
his worker what to do, an hour later they had it mounted back on my Guzzi
and she cranked right up. It was on there when I sold it years later.
The points in its little distributor were also the same as the Fiat rear
engine Spider I also owned at the time.
There are rumors that FIAT is planning to re-enter the American
market...again.
I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car. Now
they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful cars.
But the prettiest awful car I ever had was an MG-A. Gorgeous, white with
red leather. Looked very pretty sitting in the driveway where I lived in
Kansas City. That's where it spent most of its time, too, sitting in the
driveway. It was a mechanical and electrical P.O.S. It was sort of like
the girl I was dating at the time...very pretty, with really nice
upholstery, but it was damned hard to start her up and keep her running.
She lacked motivation?

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Hk 5 August 2008 16:57:28 permanent link ]
 justwaitafrekinminut­e@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 9:26 am, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"hk" <payer33...@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
news:d9GdnQzIDrlMzw­XVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@c­omcast.com...
I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car. Now
they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful cars.
The 850 Spider we had in Italy looked just like this .... same color even
...
Eisboch
I owned an Austin Healey (sp?) Sprite for a while when I was traveling
in the south.. Cute little car...


The bug-eye sprites were cute, but, man, were they death traps.
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Reginald P. Smithers III 5 August 2008 17:55:24 permanent link ]
 
On Aug 5, 9:26 am, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"hk" <payer33...@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
news:d9GdnQzIDrlMzw­XVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@c­omcast.com...
I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car. Now
they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful cars.
The 850 Spider we had in Italy looked just like this .... same color even
...
Eisboch

My mother owned a red Fiat Spider convertible in the early 70's. It had
some minor problems but that was her version of the male mid-life
crisis. She had always wanted a sexy sports car, so she figured it was
now or never. She kept it for about 5 years when it started to show
it's age. Cars of that era didn't hold up as well as they do today.
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Larry 5 August 2008 18:50:14 permanent link ]
 hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in
news:d9GdnQzIDrlMzw­XVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@c­omcast.com:

But the prettiest awful car I ever had was an MG-A. Gorgeous, white with
red leather. Looked very pretty sitting in the driveway where I lived in
Kansas City. That's where it spent most of its time, too, sitting in the
driveway. It was a mechanical and electrical P.O.S. It was sort of like
the girl I was dating at the time...very pretty, with really nice
upholstery, but it was damned hard to start her up and keep her running.

Isn't it interesting this is the same English company that made the Morris
Minors I always loved. I had a little green saloon, a drophead coupe and
always wanted the little woody wagon but never found one I could afford on
sailor's pay.

My 37hp drophead, with its white racing stripes to match the 6 light and 8
badge bar, not to mention its 37hp monstrous 4-cylinder powerplant, was my
favorite. A little '41 Ford convertible, made in 1964.

The only thing it lost was the master cylinder in the hydraulic brakes.
The hand brake worked good until I saved up enough money to buy a new
master cylinder on my measily $100 Navy check....

There's a towtruck company downtown that has a lot of Morris and Austin
Minis....the real ones not the new BMW fake ones. They are pretty proud of
them when you ask the price....(c;

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Larry 5 August 2008 18:54:19 permanent link ]
 "Eisboch" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:1NOdnd-LFOW0yA­XVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@g­iganews.com:

The 850 Spider we had in Italy looked just like this .... same color
even ...

Mine was a horrid orange, but what can you expect for $1200...(c;

Someone told him it needed an expensive radiator, so he dumped it on me.
The radiator shop guy shrugged and said, "Come back on Wednesday." when it
was ready to go for $65...??

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Hk 5 August 2008 18:56:03 permanent link ]
 Larry wrote:
hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in
news:d9GdnQzIDrlMzw­XVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@c­omcast.com:
But the prettiest awful car I ever had was an MG-A. Gorgeous, white with
red leather. Looked very pretty sitting in the driveway where I lived in
Kansas City. That's where it spent most of its time, too, sitting in the
driveway. It was a mechanical and electrical P.O.S. It was sort of like
the girl I was dating at the time...very pretty, with really nice
upholstery, but it was damned hard to start her up and keep her running.
Isn't it interesting this is the same English company that made the Morris
Minors I always loved. I had a little green saloon, a drophead coupe and
always wanted the little woody wagon but never found one I could afford on
sailor's pay.
My 37hp drophead, with its white racing stripes to match the 6 light and 8
badge bar, not to mention its 37hp monstrous 4-cylinder powerplant, was my
favorite. A little '41 Ford convertible, made in 1964.
The only thing it lost was the master cylinder in the hydraulic brakes.
The hand brake worked good until I saved up enough money to buy a new
master cylinder on my measily $100 Navy check....
There's a towtruck company downtown that has a lot of Morris and Austin
Minis....the real ones not the new BMW fake ones. They are pretty proud of
them when you ask the price....(c;


I trace my love for British cars to a grammar and high school chum in
New Haven, where I grew up. *His* father was rich, so while we were too
young to drive, his older brothers each got an Austin-Healey when they
reached driving age, and we younger guys got to wash the cars, sit in
them and drive them up and down the driveway. Big deal, huh?

And my father had a lot of summer employees at the boatyard, including a
young guy whose father had a Jag XK-120 the kid sometimes drove to work.

Those cars just hooked me. Then when we got to be 16, the rich kid's dad
bought him an XK-150 and then one of the first XK-E's I ever saw. Now
that was one beautiful car.

Well, the hook was set. But when I finished college, all I could afford
was an ancient MG-A. When it ran I loved it. But it didn't run a lot.

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Larry 5 August 2008 18:58:50 permanent link ]
 "Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:

She lacked motivation?

I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
http://www.honda600­coupe.com/Honda_600_­Sedan_at_Route_22_Ho­nda.html
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't think
it was ever on the road!

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Hk 5 August 2008 19:08:22 permanent link ]
 Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't think
it was ever on the road!


I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for
a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared
to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when
I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.

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Larry 5 August 2008 19:23:35 permanent link ]
 hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in news:gd-
dnYK7sORs5wXVnZ2dnU­VZ_t7inZ2d@comcast.c­om:

and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.

Triumphs had a special thermometer in them built into the distributor cap.
At a certain temperature, the thermo element must have pulled the points
permanently away from each other because you couldn't start it in the
cold....

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Eisboch 5 August 2008 20:07:14 permanent link ]
 
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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justwaitafrekinminu­te@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 9:26 am, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"hk" <payer33...@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
news:d9GdnQzIDrlMzw­XVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@c­omcast.com...
I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car.
Now
they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful
cars.
The 850 Spider we had in Italy looked just like this .... same color
even
...
Eisboch
I owned an Austin Healey (sp?) Sprite for a while when I was traveling
in the south.. Cute little car...
The bug-eye sprites were cute, but, man, were they death traps.

I drove one years ago. I felt like if I hicuped, I'd be off the road.

Eisboch


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Eisboch 5 August 2008 20:12:46 permanent link ]
 
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't think
it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used and
just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for a
couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared to
the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when I
wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.

My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.

Eisboch


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Jim 5 August 2008 20:21:20 permanent link ]
 
"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for
a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared
to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when
I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-I­llinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?

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Guest 5 August 2008 20:33:37 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:21:20 -0400, "Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote:

"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for
a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared
to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when
I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-­Illinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?

It's not so bad once you pound the seat with your fist in the morning
to break up the ice.


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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on
a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda
600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well
for
a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet
compared
to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started
when
I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle­-Illinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?
It's not so bad once you pound the seat with your fist in the morning
to break up the ice.

And riding in 6-8 inches of fresh snow isn't too bad once you get used to
it. I used to stick my feet out like ski poles and wooble down the road,
back to the apartment.

Eisboch


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<LoogyPicker@gmail.­com> wrote in message
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On Aug 5, 9:34 am, justwaitafrekinmin.­..@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 9:26 am, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"hk" <payer33...@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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I had a FIAT Abarth 850 for about three months once. Used. Awful car.
Now
they are collector's items and fetch big bucks. They're still awful
cars.
The 850 Spider we had in Italy looked just like this .... same color
even
...
Eisboch
I owned an Austin Healey (sp?) Sprite for a while when I was traveling
in the south.. Cute little car...

True Sprite story:

I bought this bug eye, I was 16 at the time. It was pretty much junk,
seats out and such. Well, to two it home, we towed it behind my
brother's car. I sat on a bucket with a pair of Vice Grips to steer
it, as the steering wheel was gone. Can you see where we're going with
this? Yep, go around a curve in the county road, bucket tips
over......
Not done. When I go to fall off of the bucket, I yank the vice grip/
steering mechanism right off of the stem! Luckily, I had thought to
slam on the brakes, my brother noticed, and we came to a stop in the
ditch! Man, we used to have fun! It's too bad that Harry and JimH and
people like that had to stay in there hermetically sealed rooms to
avoid any danger.
-------------------­--------------------­--------------------­--------------------­-------

Oh... them Dukes!


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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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"Eisboch" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in
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The 850 Spider we had in Italy looked just like this .... same color
even ...
Mine was a horrid orange, but what can you expect for $1200...(c;
Someone told him it needed an expensive radiator, so he dumped it on me.
The radiator shop guy shrugged and said, "Come back on Wednesday." when it
was ready to go for $65...??

Closest I got to a Fiat was my early 80s orange Lada with racing stripes.
(based on the Fiat 124)


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Hk 5 August 2008 20:58:39 permanent link ]
 Eisboch wrote:
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't think
it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used and
just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for a
couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared to
the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when I
wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch


Ahhh...the smooth fendered Honda. The fenders on mine looked like they
came from an early Japanese horror movie.
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Hk 5 August 2008 21:20:48 permanent link ]
 salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:58:39 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't think
it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used and
just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for a
couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared to
the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when I
wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
Ahhh...the smooth fendered Honda. The fenders on mine looked like they
came from an early Japanese horror movie.
???


You've never seen the fenders on a 250cc Honda Dream? The fenders came
with a "crease" in the center and looked like some sort of Japanese
cartoon art.
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Guest 5 August 2008 21:49:52 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:20:48 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:

salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:58:39 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't think
it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used and
just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for a
couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared to
the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when I
wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
Ahhh...the smooth fendered Honda. The fenders on mine looked like they
came from an early Japanese horror movie.
???
You've never seen the fenders on a 250cc Honda Dream? The fenders came
with a "crease" in the center and looked like some sort of Japanese
cartoon art.

??? The 250 Dream (247cc) had the well known, and quite distinctive,
"roman helmet" style fenders, Harry. Just like the 160 Dream and the
305 Dream.


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Hk 5 August 2008 22:07:01 permanent link ]
 hk wrote:
salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:20:48 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:58:39 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
news:gd-dnYK7sORs5w­XVnZ2dnUVZ_t7inZ2d@c­omcast.com...
Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda
Dream on a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was
selling my Honda 600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I
don't think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream.
Used and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served
me well for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure
looked sweet compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had,
because...my Honda started when I wanted it to...and their bikes
sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and
winter in Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
Ahhh...the smooth fendered Honda. The fenders on mine looked like
they came from an early Japanese horror movie.
???
You've never seen the fenders on a 250cc Honda Dream? The fenders
came with a "crease" in the center and looked like some sort of
Japanese cartoon art.
??? The 250 Dream (247cc) had the well known, and quite distinctive,
"roman helmet" style fenders, Harry. Just like the 160 Dream and the
305 Dream.
Is that what the edges of the front fender were called? Roman helmet?
Whatever. I thought they were inspired by Japanese cartoon art. Anyway,
there was a "folded edge or crease" on each side of the center of the
fender. The joke then was they were made out of old Japanese beer cans.
But I sure liked that bike.
Mine looked like this, but this one wasn't mine:


Oh...it was a hell of a long time about, but I don't recall that mine
had whitewall tires.
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Don White 5 August 2008 22:41:01 permanent link ]
 
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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hk wrote:
salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:20:48 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:58:39 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream
on a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my
Honda 600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I
don't think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream.
Used and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served
me well for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure
looked sweet compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had,
because...my Honda started when I wanted it to...and their bikes
sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter
in Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
Ahhh...the smooth fendered Honda. The fenders on mine looked like
they came from an early Japanese horror movie.
???
You've never seen the fenders on a 250cc Honda Dream? The fenders came
with a "crease" in the center and looked like some sort of Japanese
cartoon art.
??? The 250 Dream (247cc) had the well known, and quite distinctive,
"roman helmet" style fenders, Harry. Just like the 160 Dream and the
305 Dream.
Is that what the edges of the front fender were called? Roman helmet?
Whatever. I thought they were inspired by Japanese cartoon art. Anyway,
there was a "folded edge or crease" on each side of the center of the
fender. The joke then was they were made out of old Japanese beer cans.
But I sure liked that bike.
Mine looked like this, but this one wasn't mine:
Oh...it was a hell of a long time about, but I don't recall that mine had
whitewall tires.

I had a black version of the CB 160
http://www.motorcyc­lemuseum.org/classic­s/bike.asp?id=61
There was a 150 Honda dream that seemed a bit clunky with the heavy plastic
fenders. http://www.jwoodand­company.com/2001/day­tona2001a/MVC-469F.j­pg



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Hk 5 August 2008 22:45:41 permanent link ]
 Don White wrote:
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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hk wrote:
salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:20:48 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
salty@dog.com wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:58:39 -0400, hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
news:gd-dnYK7sORs5w­XVnZ2dnUVZ_t7inZ2d@c­omcast.com...
Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream
on a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my
Honda 600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I
don't think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream.
Used and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served
me well for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure
looked sweet compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had,
because...my Honda started when I wanted it to...and their bikes
sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter
in Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
Ahhh...the smooth fendered Honda. The fenders on mine looked like
they came from an early Japanese horror movie.
???
You've never seen the fenders on a 250cc Honda Dream? The fenders came
with a "crease" in the center and looked like some sort of Japanese
cartoon art.
??? The 250 Dream (247cc) had the well known, and quite distinctive,
"roman helmet" style fenders, Harry. Just like the 160 Dream and the
305 Dream.
Is that what the edges of the front fender were called? Roman helmet?
Whatever. I thought they were inspired by Japanese cartoon art. Anyway,
there was a "folded edge or crease" on each side of the center of the
fender. The joke then was they were made out of old Japanese beer cans.
But I sure liked that bike.
Mine looked like this, but this one wasn't mine:
Oh...it was a hell of a long time about, but I don't recall that mine had
whitewall tires.
I had a black version of the CB 160
There was a 150 Honda dream that seemed a bit clunky with the heavy plastic


Those fenders were very similar to the ones on my old Dream.
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Eisboch 5 August 2008 22:52:05 permanent link ]
 
"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
Ahhh...the smooth fendered Honda. The fenders on mine looked like they
came from an early Japanese horror movie.

http://zamm.home.at­t.net/Bike.htm

Eisboch


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Eisboch 5 August 2008 22:56:11 permanent link ]
 
"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatic­o.ca> wrote in message
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You have to wonder what the ships social committee made off those deals.

"Ship's Social Committee"?

What the hell is *that*?

You Canadians have a strange Navy.

Eisboch


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Vic Smith 5 August 2008 23:05:54 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:01:28 -0500, Vic Smith
<thismailautodelete­d@comcast.net> wrote:


Another Lt. at NAS Norfolk

Oops. Make that NOB. Don't want to alarm the Navy guys.

--Vic
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Short Wave Sportfishing 5 August 2008 23:28:33 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:56:11 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:

"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatic­o.ca> wrote in message
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You have to wonder what the ships social committee made off those deals.
"Ship's Social Committee"?
What the hell is *that*?
You Canadians have a strange Navy.

Correction - there isn't a Canadian Navy as such.

It's the Canadian Armed Forces - they are all in one service.
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Eisboch 5 August 2008 23:29:21 permanent link ]
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremo­ve.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:56:11 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:
"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatic­o.ca> wrote in message
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You have to wonder what the ships social committee made off those deals.
"Ship's Social Committee"?
What the hell is *that*?
You Canadians have a strange Navy.
Correction - there isn't a Canadian Navy as such.
It's the Canadian Armed Forces - they are all in one service.


You mean they have Jarheads that know how to drive a boat?

Must be smart ones up there.

Eisboch


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Short Wave Sportfishing 5 August 2008 23:30:34 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:50:01 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:

Jim is very good at what he does.
Whatever it is.

All I know is that he grows bananas.

Odd hobby that. :>)
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Eisboch 5 August 2008 23:31:36 permanent link ]
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremo­ve.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:50:01 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:
Jim is very good at what he does.
Whatever it is.
All I know is that he grows bananas.
Odd hobby that. :>)


You never hear *him* complain.

Eisboch


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Short Wave Sportfishing 6 August 2008 00:08:57 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:29:21 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremo­ve.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:56:11 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:
"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatic­o.ca> wrote in message
news:4898aad7$0$­4042$9a566e8b@news.a­liant.net...
You have to wonder what the ships social committee made off those deals.
"Ship's Social Committee"?
What the hell is *that*?
You Canadians have a strange Navy.
Correction - there isn't a Canadian Navy as such.
It's the Canadian Armed Forces - they are all in one service.
You mean they have Jarheads that know how to drive a boat?

Piffle - just like our Navy - bus drivers for the real military.

Must be smart ones up there.

HEY!!!! :>)
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 Larry wrote:
hk <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in
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But the prettiest awful car I ever had was an MG-A. Gorgeous, white with
red leather. Looked very pretty sitting in the driveway where I lived in
Kansas City. That's where it spent most of its time, too, sitting in the
driveway. It was a mechanical and electrical P.O.S. It was sort of like
the girl I was dating at the time...very pretty, with really nice
upholstery, but it was damned hard to start her up and keep her running.
Isn't it interesting this is the same English company that made the Morris
Minors I always loved. I had a little green saloon, a drophead coupe and
always wanted the little woody wagon but never found one I could afford on
sailor's pay.
My 37hp drophead, with its white racing stripes to match the 6 light and 8
badge bar, not to mention its 37hp monstrous 4-cylinder powerplant, was my
favorite. A little '41 Ford convertible, made in 1964.
The only thing it lost was the master cylinder in the hydraulic brakes.
The hand brake worked good until I saved up enough money to buy a new
master cylinder on my measily $100 Navy check....
There's a towtruck company downtown that has a lot of Morris and Austin
Minis....the real ones not the new BMW fake ones. They are pretty proud of
them when you ask the price....(c;

WAFA's tale follows:

Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft.
Leonard Wood to Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About
halfway home it started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and
EVERY SINGLE electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there
was a large popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car
caught fire. I pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire,
removed my license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old
MGA is still there.

Sure was a pretty little car.
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Dk 6 August 2008 04:03:19 permanent link ]
 Jim wrote:
"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream
on a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my
Honda 600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream.
Used and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me
well for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked
sweet compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my
Honda started when I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and
sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter
in Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-I­llinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?

Illinois has a variety of weather. Northern IL is very different from
S. IL.
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"DK" <intrceptor@123gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on
a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda
600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well
for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet
compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda
started when I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and
sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-I­llinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?
Illinois has a variety of weather. Northern IL is very different from S.
IL.


We lived briefly in Zion, IL. Just a couple of miles from the Wisconsin
border. Interesting little dry town. No booze or beer sold.

Eisboch


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"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for
a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared
to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when
I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch

My buddy is driving his 305 on Sir Francis Drake Blvd, in Marin County and
loses it. Big time, goes sliding down the road, to come to a stop as it
touches the front bumper of a CHP car. And talks his way out of a ticket.


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Calif Bill 6 August 2008 08:51:19 permanent link ]
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremo­ve.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:29:21 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremo­ve.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:56:11 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m>
wrote:
"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatic­o.ca> wrote in message
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You have to wonder what the ships social committee made off those
deals.
"Ship's Social Committee"?
What the hell is *that*?
You Canadians have a strange Navy.
Correction - there isn't a Canadian Navy as such.
It's the Canadian Armed Forces - they are all in one service.
You mean they have Jarheads that know how to drive a boat?
Piffle - just like our Navy - bus drivers for the real military.
Must be smart ones up there.
HEY!!!! :>)

some of us were smarter than Jarheads. We dealt with the taxi service and
did not get a lot of purple hearts in the process. Did miss combat pay
being stateside in an airconditioned electronics shop.


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Reginald P. Smithers III 6 August 2008 12:49:18 permanent link ]
 Eisboch wrote:
"DK" <intrceptor@123gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on
a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda
600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well
for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet
compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda
started when I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and
sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-I­llinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?
Illinois has a variety of weather. Northern IL is very different from S.
IL.
We lived briefly in Zion, IL. Just a couple of miles from the Wisconsin
border. Interesting little dry town.
Eisboch

Interesting observation on the local weather conditions. ;)
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Dk 7 August 2008 03:19:12 permanent link ]
 Eisboch wrote:
"DK" <intrceptor@123gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on
a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda
600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well
for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet
compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda
started when I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and
sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-I­llinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?
Illinois has a variety of weather. Northern IL is very different from S.
IL.
We lived briefly in Zion, IL. Just a couple of miles from the Wisconsin
border. Interesting little dry town. No booze or beer sold.
Eisboch

I was there many times when I was in sales. Ever heard of Benton Lumber?

You are a badass if you rode your bike in that area. I used to live in
Crystal Lake and my motorcycle was on the trickle charge from Oct/Nov to
Mar/Apr.
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Dk 7 August 2008 03:22:20 permanent link ]
 Eisboch wrote:
"DK" <intrceptor@123gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on
a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda
600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well
for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet
compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda
started when I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and
sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-I­llinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?
Illinois has a variety of weather. Northern IL is very different from S.
IL.
We lived briefly in Zion, IL. Just a couple of miles from the Wisconsin
border. Interesting little dry town. No booze or beer sold.
Eisboch

BTW - Did you boat out of Winthrop Harbor or were those pre-boating days?
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D.Duck 7 August 2008 04:00:44 permanent link ]
 
"DK" <intrceptor@123gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"DK" <intrceptor@123gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.co­m> wrote in message
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"hk" <payer33859@mypacks­.net> wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
@registered.motzare­lla.org:
She lacked motivation?
I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream
on a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my
Honda 600 sedan:
I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
think it was ever on the road!
I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream.
Used and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me
well for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked
sweet compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my
Honda started when I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and
sometimes didn't.
My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter
in Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
Eisboch
winter-motorcycle-I­llinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?
Illinois has a variety of weather. Northern IL is very different from
S. IL.
We lived briefly in Zion, IL. Just a couple of miles from the Wisconsin
border. Interesting little dry town. No booze or beer sold.
Eisboch
BTW - Did you boat out of Winthrop Harbor or were those pre-boating days?

Probably "boated" out of Great Lakes Naval Training Station. 8>)


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Eisboch 7 August 2008 06:34:44 permanent link ]
 
"DK" <intrceptor@123gmai­l.com> wrote in message
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We lived briefly in Zion, IL. Just a couple of miles from the Wisconsin
border. Interesting little dry town. No booze or beer sold.
Eisboch
BTW - Did you boat out of Winthrop Harbor or were those pre-boating days?


Pre-boating, unless you consider Uncle Sam's Canoe Club as boating.

Eisboch


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John H . 9 August 2008 04:20:35 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:53:49 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

Tim <tschnautz@gmail.co­m> wrote in news:a4045281-3a97-­4305-8ae4-
4f19e64b754b@25g20­00hsx.googlegroups.c­om:
Well, they didn't call Joe Lucas the "Black ([K]night" or the "Prince
of Darkness" for nothing.
Q. why do the british drink warm beer?
A. Because Lucas builds refrigerators, too!
With Italian cars and motorcycles, one could say the same thing of Magneti
Marelli....(c;

Be careful. You're treading on thin ice. Moto Guzzis haven't had electrical
problems for weeks.
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