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Re: Lessons from FHYC flare shoot

Roger Helio 21 April 2008 21:17:11
 
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:18:29 -0600, "Roger Helio" <RB32@jfmajor.com>
wrote:
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:16:57 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jganz@sailnow.inva­lid>
wrote:
If a flare lands on the deck of a boat, good luck! It will burn it's way
down
and out through the bottom very quickly while you try and figure out
what
you
have on board that will extinguish a magnesium fire. (hint: you don't
have
anything) They will burn right through the bottom of a metal bucket.
Burning magnesium is easily extinguished with a Pyrene fire extinguisher.
Yes, and EVERYBODY always has one available.
Pyrene fire extinguishers where the defacto fire extinguisher aboard boats
up until the 1950's.

http://www.vintagef­e.com/chriscraft.htm­l

Two problems:

1. They used carbon tetrachloride as the agent which affects the human brain
("mad hatter").

2. When used on burning magnesium, phosgene (nerve gas) was generated.

Today, a powder substance also called "Pyrene" is used for class D
extinguishers which include magnesium fires. However, I don't believe it is
carbon tet. I would recommend mariners carrying a Class D extinguisher as
well as filling the mast with concrete for fire protection.


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Bloody Horvath 22 April 2008 01:09:48 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:17:11 -0600, "Roger Helio" <RB32@jfmajor.com>
wrote this crap:

Pyrene fire extinguishers where the defacto fire extinguisher aboard boats
up until the 1950's.
Two problems:
1. They used carbon tetrachloride as the agent which affects the human brain
("mad hatter").
2. When used on burning magnesium, phosgene (nerve gas) was generated.
Today, a powder substance also called "Pyrene" is used for class D
extinguishers which include magnesium fires. However, I don't believe it is
carbon tet. I would recommend mariners carrying a Class D extinguisher as
well as filling the mast with concrete for fire protection.


It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember
that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention,
poisonous.


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Lee 22 April 2008 01:34:46 permanent link ]
 
"Bloody Horvath" <Bloody@Horvath.net­> wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:17:11 -0600, "Roger Helio" <RB32@jfmajor.com>
wrote this crap:
Pyrene fire extinguishers where the defacto fire extinguisher aboard boats
up until the 1950's.
Two problems:
1. They used carbon tetrachloride as the agent which affects the human
brain
("mad hatter").
2. When used on burning magnesium, phosgene (nerve gas) was generated.
Today, a powder substance also called "Pyrene" is used for class D
extinguishers which include magnesium fires. However, I don't believe it
is
carbon tet. I would recommend mariners carrying a Class D extinguisher as
well as filling the mast with concrete for fire protection.
It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember
that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention,
poisonous.
Horvath@Horvath.net­
I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Didja miss the part where he suggested filling the mast with concrete?


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Richard Casady 22 April 2008 04:54:16 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" <lee@thebar.com> wrote:

It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember
that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention,
poisonous.

It's not at all flammible. Its already burned with chlorine as the
oxidizer,and the carbon will hang on to the chlorine even if oxygen
wants the spot. I am old enough to remember when it was used as the
filler in fire extinguishers. Carbon disulfide is the flammible one.

Casady
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Lee 22 April 2008 05:10:12 permanent link ]
 
"Richard Casady" <richardcasady@eart­hlink.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" <lee@thebar.com> wrote:
It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember
that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention,
poisonous.
It's not at all flammible. Its already burned with chlorine as the
oxidizer,and the carbon will hang on to the chlorine even if oxygen
wants the spot. I am old enough to remember when it was used as the
filler in fire extinguishers. Carbon disulfide is the flammible one.
Casady

Learn how to quote properly. I didn't write any of that.

Are you related to boobshit?


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Bloody Horvath 22 April 2008 05:33:00 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:54:16 GMT, richardcasady@earth­link.net (Richard
Casady) wrote this crap:

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" <lee@thebar.com> wrote:
It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember
that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention,
poisonous.
It's not at all flammible. Its already burned with chlorine as the
oxidizer,and the carbon will hang on to the chlorine even if oxygen
wants the spot. I am old enough to remember when it was used as the
filler in fire extinguishers. Carbon disulfide is the flammible one.
Casady


Do you even know what you are talking about?



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Bloody Horvath 22 April 2008 05:36:00 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" <lee@thebar.com> wrote this
crap:

Pyrene fire extinguishers where the defacto fire extinguisher aboard boats
up until the 1950's.
Didja miss the part where he suggested filling the mast with concrete?


Uh. Not really. Would you give your superpowers for his brainiac
ability?


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