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GYXU > Boats > Re: Tinning copper bar 15 May 2008 19:41:53

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Re: Tinning copper bar

Christopher Tidy 15 May 2008 19:41:53
 CS wrote:
I have some lengths of cooper bar - 1 inc x 1/2 inch x 5 inch - used
as interconnectors on 2v battery cells. I wish to tin them and can
either cart them off to an electroplater or tin with solder. Solder
wire worked fine on a test piece with a blow torch. My question is
which solder bar to go for - lead free or leaded?? My instinct is
leadfree - tin with some silver and possible copper - something like
Sn96/Ag4.

Unless you need to use lead free solder, I would use traditional
lead-tin solder. The general consensus seems to be that lead free solder
is less satisfactory and more difficult to work with.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Winston 11 March 2008 00:25:40 permanent link ]
 Christopher Tidy wrote:
CS wrote:
I have some lengths of cooper bar - 1 inc x 1/2 inch x 5 inch - used
as interconnectors on 2v battery cells. (...)

Unless you need to use lead free solder, I would use traditional
lead-tin solder. The general consensus seems to be that lead free solder
is less satisfactory and more difficult to work with.

What Chris said. Leaded is better.
Plus, if you are generous with CLEANING and FLUX and heat before applying solder, you will
be rewarded with a nice, shiny finish.

Remember to wash your hands after working with any leaded metal. Please keep your face
out of the smoke.

--Winston
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Spaco 11 March 2008 00:41:07 permanent link ]
 I, too would go with the lead/tin solder.
You will be using an appropriate flux, I assume.
You wil also be "shining" the parts up just before fluzing so the flux
won't have so much work to do, right?

You didn't say how big your sample was or how big your torch was. Just
remember that a small sample won't take nearly as much heat as your part
may take. Also, if you are using "electronic" solder, it may be a lower
melting point alloy than what you get when buying a "solder bar". The
solder bar ( maybe 95/5) could well melt at a couple hundred degrees
higher than 63/37.
If you've got enough "solder wire", just go with that.


Pete Stanaitis


CS wrote:

I have some lengths of cooper bar - 1 inc x 1/2 inch x 5 inch - used
as interconnectors on 2v battery cells. I wish to tin them and can
either cart them off to an electroplater or tin with solder. Solder
wire worked fine on a test piece with a blow torch. My question is
which solder bar to go for - lead free or leaded?? My instinct is
leadfree - tin with some silver and possible copper - something like
Sn96/Ag4.
TVMIA
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Leo Lichtman 11 March 2008 02:00:55 permanent link ]
 
"CS" wrote: (clip) My question is
which solder bar to go for - lead free or leaded?? (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I believe lead is used on top of storage batteries because it resists
corrosion by the sulfuric acid fumes. Using solder, I would worry that the
acid would leach out the tin, and leave you with a porous layer which would
then allow the acid to attack the copper. I would try tinning with solder,
and then cover that with lead. I'm pretty sure you could get the lead to
wet the solder easier than trying to get it to wet the copper. (Have never
tried it, though.)


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_ 11 March 2008 15:08:56 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:56:12 -0700 (PDT), Bob AZ wrote:

. I wish to tin them and can
either cart them off to an electroplater or tin with solder.
Several have addressed the type of plating.
My suggestion involves the heating. If Mama will allow preheat them in
the oven. Perhaps this will be hot enough for all the heating they
need.

Eutectic solder melts at 361 F. The oven will do fine.
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Glenn Ashmore 11 March 2008 16:59:08 permanent link ]
 I retinned all the mates copper pots a few years back using bar tin and flux
but Johnson's E-127 is a lot easier.

I have tinned all the bare copper busses going to the T fuse blocks on Rutu.
Used Johnson's E-127 Flux N Solder paste. Pure tin powder in a flux.
Scrubbed the copper clean, dipped it in some fresh degreaser and handled it
with cotton gloves. Spread the E-127 on all surfaces and laid it on an
asbestos shingle. Gradually heated it with a propane torch until the tin
melted and brushed it lightly with some bronze wool. Came out looking
better than a professionally tinned buss bar.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonli­ne.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-an­chor-us.com

"CS" <colinstone@hotmail­.com> wrote in message
news:1e3b340e-01cb-­4657-8cc6-30221879aa­6d@d62g2000hsf.googl­egroups.com...
I have some lengths of cooper bar - 1 inc x 1/2 inch x 5 inch - used
as interconnectors on 2v battery cells. I wish to tin them and can
either cart them off to an electroplater or tin with solder. Solder
wire worked fine on a test piece with a blow torch. My question is
which solder bar to go for - lead free or leaded?? My instinct is
leadfree - tin with some silver and possible copper - something like
Sn96/Ag4.
TVMIA


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Richard Casady 14 March 2008 05:14:17 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:55 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
<l.lichtman@worldne­t.att.net> wrote:

I believe lead is used on top of storage batteries because it resists
corrosion by the sulfuric acid fumes.

There are no fumes at or near room temperature, For fumes you boil out

all the water at a relatively high temperature, ane then boil pure
acid.

Casady
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HapticZ 15 May 2008 19:41:53 permanent link ]
 preparation is the key.

do all your machining and mechanical work first

clean copper that has been cleansed of all oil or surface tension debris is
critical to your end product

naptha removes nearly all hydrocarbon type surface contaminants

to etch and open the atom structure, i use plain old toilet cleaner with
acid content (Hydrochloric) , even the smelly stuff works.

complete rinse in clear pure water until bright and shiny

then immediately into the solder bath or pot if you can afford it.

blowtorch heat will only cause instant creation of copper oxides, thus
causing troubel, that why we use solder pots

flux is cheap, use it freely

60/40 solderworks fine, lead free worksfine, lead alone will oxidize
eventually

use ventilation to draw fumes AWAY from the operators/personell­ supply
masks if needed.

"CS" <colinstone@hotmail­.com> wrote in message
news:1e3b340e-01cb-­4657-8cc6-30221879aa­6d@d62g2000hsf.googl­egroups.com...
I have some lengths of cooper bar - 1 inc x 1/2 inch x 5 inch - used
as interconnectors on 2v battery cells. I wish to tin them and can
either cart them off to an electroplater or tin with solder. Solder
wire worked fine on a test piece with a blow torch. My question is
which solder bar to go for - lead free or leaded?? My instinct is
leadfree - tin with some silver and possible copper - something like
Sn96/Ag4.
TVMIA


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