I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!!
Cindy Ballreich wrote:> I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the > message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". > This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, > the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!!
Add NFILTER to that to kill all crossposts. Then it starts to look like it used to.
Thunderbird should have this capability, but for some reason they have it disabled.
On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:47:26 GMT, Cindy Ballreich <cynthiareed@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the >message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". >This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, >the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!!
Indeed. I really appreciate Agent for reading text type news, so I have been forced to invoke other filtering software, but it *IS* possible to eliminate the unwanted and unwarranted chatter. --
In article <l1nc915r2rm41km5shlo4m1sftcqdovoje@4ax.com>, Please.email.me@the.link.on.my.webpage says...>
On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:47:26 GMT, Cindy Ballreich><cynthiareed@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>
I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the >>message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". >>This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, >>the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!!>
Indeed. I really appreciate Agent for reading text type news, so I>have been forced to invoke other filtering software, but it *IS*>possible to eliminate the unwanted and unwarranted chatter.>--
On 26 May 2005, Cindy wrote:>I added a filter to delete the >message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer".
You kill the whole thread?? There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's gonna be tempted to reply here... and he won't even have to say anything, just click the Reply button to kill your thread.
This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, >the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!!
But in some cases you'e throwing the baby out with the bath water. Filters can be overdone.
Me, I killfilter messages of known trolls too, but as for threads, I filter only the ones that trolls initiate. That helps a lot.
The Delete key is your friend. So is the manual "Ignore" button.
PhantMan@hotpopcom.invalid wrote:> You kill the whole thread??> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's> gonna be tempted to reply here... and he won't even have to say> anything, just click the Reply button to kill your thread.
My experience is that there are so many people who (for what ever reason) just can't NOT reply to a troll that the threads are unreadable anyway. Of course, this seems to depend on the troll. Jax will create a few flames so I just killfile him and ignore the noise. Neal triggers so much disruption that it poisons the thread. It's the same deal with with these anon-remailer-crosspost folks. They rarely start threads here.
But in some cases you'e throwing the baby out with the bath water.> Filters can be overdone.>
Me, I killfilter messages of known trolls too, but as for threads, I> filter only the ones that trolls initiate. That helps a lot.
I know I lose some good content. If I had the time, I'd set up a more sophisticated news reader with better filtration. Right now, sifting through the chafe to find a few grains of wheat isn't worth the effort. I can still find specific content with Google if I need it.
It makes me really sad that this situation exists. 80% of my email is spam. My favorite newsgroups are flooded with trolls. The best mailing list I've ever been on has been shut down by the owner's isp because they think it's spam. The web is still useful, but the rest of the internet's going to hell.
Time to shut off the computer and go sailing.
-- The email address above is a spam trap. Don't expect a response. Reach me using firstname at lastname dot net
On Fri, 27 May 2005, Cindy Ballreich <cynthiareed@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>PhantMan@hotpopcom.invalid wrote:>> You kill the whole thread??>> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's>> gonna be tempted to reply here... and he won't even have to say>> anything, just click the Reply button to kill your thread.>
My experience is that there are so many people who (for what ever >reason) just can't NOT reply to a troll that the threads are unreadable >anyway. Of course, this seems to depend on the troll. Jax will create a >few flames so I just killfile him and ignore the noise. Neal triggers so >much disruption that it poisons the thread. It's the same deal with with >these anon-remailer-crosspost folks. They rarely start threads here.>
No, we don't start threads. We do reply to off topic posters and not kindly. Crossposting occurs when a regular poster to this group turns into Mr. Hyde and dishes out a ration of BS in rec.boats. Do you realize there are far more recreational boaters than cruisers? We are the ones that own the 14' aluminum fishing boats. Why do we have to be punished by OT posters from this group? Just because you own a 30 foot sailboat you can look down your noses at us?
Ever think about policing your own? The crossposting would stop. Ever bother to read the trash Don White posts to rec.boats? Naw, you wouldn't go there because he and his pals have made an unholy mess of it. Unfortunately, us mere recreational boaters have to put up with him and his ilk. Why? Why can't he be a gentleman in rec.boats as he pretends to be here?
Trotline
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On 28 May 2005 00:40:30 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Trotline) wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2005, Cindy Ballreich <cynthiareed@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>PhantMan@hotpopcom.invalid wrote:>>> You kill the whole thread??>>> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's>>> gonna be tempted to reply here... and he won't even have to say>>> anything, just click the Reply button to kill your thread.>>
My experience is that there are so many people who (for what ever >>reason) just can't NOT reply to a troll that the threads are unreadable >>anyway. Of course, this seems to depend on the troll. Jax will create a >>few flames so I just killfile him and ignore the noise. Neal triggers so >>much disruption that it poisons the thread. It's the same deal with with >>these anon-remailer-crosspost folks. They rarely start threads here.>>
No, we don't start threads. We do reply to off topic posters and not>kindly. Crossposting occurs when a regular poster to this group turns into>Mr. Hyde and dishes out a ration of BS in rec.boats. Do you realize there>are far more recreational boaters than cruisers? We are the ones that own>the 14' aluminum fishing boats. Why do we have to be punished by OT posters>from this group? Just because you own a 30 foot sailboat you can look down>your noses at us?>
Ever think about policing your own? The crossposting would stop. Ever>bother to read the trash Don White posts to rec.boats? Naw, you wouldn't go>there because he and his pals have made an unholy mess of it.>Unfortunately, us mere recreational boaters have to put up with him and his>ilk. Why? Why can't he be a gentleman in rec.boats as he pretends to be>here? >
Trotline>
Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder!
On Sat, 28 May 2005, Red Cloud® < red@rustcloud.com> wrote:>On 28 May 2005 00:40:30 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Trotline)>wrote:>
On Fri, 27 May 2005, Cindy Ballreich <cynthiareed@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>>PhantMan@hotpopcom.invalid wrote:>>>> You kill the whole thread??>>>> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's>>>> gonna be tempted to reply here... and he won't even have to say>>>> anything, just click the Reply button to kill your thread.>>>
My experience is that there are so many people who (for what ever >>>reason) just can't NOT reply to a troll that the threads are unreadable >>>anyway. Of course, this seems to depend on the troll. Jax will create a >>>few flames so I just killfile him and ignore the noise. Neal triggers so >>>much disruption that it poisons the thread. It's the same deal with with >>>these anon-remailer-crosspost folks. They rarely start threads here.>>>
No, we don't start threads. We do reply to off topic posters and not>>kindly. Crossposting occurs when a regular poster to this group turns into>>Mr. Hyde and dishes out a ration of BS in rec.boats. Do you realize there>>are far more recreational boaters than cruisers? We are the ones that own>>the 14' aluminum fishing boats. Why do we have to be punished by OT posters>>from this group? Just because you own a 30 foot sailboat you can look down>>your noses at us?>>
Ever think about policing your own? The crossposting would stop. Ever>>bother to read the trash Don White posts to rec.boats? Naw, you wouldn't go>>there because he and his pals have made an unholy mess of it.>>Unfortunately, us mere recreational boaters have to put up with him and his>>ilk. Why? Why can't he be a gentleman in rec.boats as he pretends to be>>here? >>
Trotline>>
Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! >
rusty redcloud
Why don't you just come over to rec.boats and find out firsthand? Coward? Afraid to see your Don White in action?
Harold
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