"Harry.Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message news:efKdnR0Bb8EVQfLfRVn-pw@comcast.com...> While Bush plays pattycake with the Saudi Prince,> Saudi Arabia's Chief Justice Urges Fighting USA>
Saudi chief justice> urges fighting U.S.> Comments caught on tape encouraging battle in Iraq> Posted: April 27, 2005> 1:00 a.m. Eastern>
Is Saudi Arabia an ally or enemy of the United States in the war on > terror?>
The question is raised with the disclosure of secretly recorded comments > from the kingdom's chief justice encouraging young Saudis to travel to > Iraq to wage war against Americans.>
"If someone knows that he is capable of entering Iraq in order to join the > fight, and if his intention is to raise up the word of God, then he is > free to do so," says Sheik Saleh Al Luhaidan in Arabic on the October > audiotape from a government mosque, obtained by NBC News.>
While Luhaidan warns Iraq is risky because "evil satellites and drone > aircraft" watch the borders, he stresses making the trip to fight > Americans is religiously permissible.>
"The lawfulness of his action is in fighting an enemy who is fighting > Muslims and came for war," says Luhaidan.>
"This statement shows the real face of the Saudi government," Saudi > dissident Ali Al-Ahmed of the Washington-based Saudi Institute told NBC, > noting Saudi officials, including Luhaidan, publicly oppose holy war in > Iraq, but send a different message in private.>
"He is telling Saudis it's OK to go to Iraq and kill Americans and Iraqis > and they won't be punished for doing that," says Al-Ahmed.>
When a Saudi spokesman denied the authenticity of the tape, the network > contacted Luhaidan himself in Saudi Arabia to play the tape.>
"Yes, this is my voice," the sheik confirmed in Arabic.>
But Luhaidan said he meant to convey the message that it's "not worth it > for young Saudis to go to Iraq and that the Iraqis are capable of fighting > on their own," according to NBC.>
The revelations on the tape come the same week Saudi Arabia's crown prince > met with President Bush in Texas to discuss oil-related and economic > issues, and extremism was also said to be discussed.>
Last month, responding to a report revealing Saudi exportation of > religious extremism to the U.S., 15 senators sent a letter to Secretary of > State Condoleezza Rice demanding the Bush administration take stronger > action against Riyadh.>
New York Democrat Charles Schumer was among the signers of the letter, > which called for the U.S. to define its relationship with Saudi Arabia > more clearly.>
Schumer stated: "It is a massive contradiction that a country we call an > ally could be both so regressive in their own country and so brazen in its > propagation of anti-American, anti-women, anti-Semitic books, > publications, and practices. American security is undermined as the Saudi > government exports these hateful commodities to millions beyond its > borders, planting the seeds for new generations of terrorists and > totalitarian Wahhabi leaders."
I agree with Schumer. But the fact of the matter is...the Saudis have us by the gonads.
"Harry.Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message news:s-qdnaW6tNE2puzfRVn-2g@comcast.com...> NOYB wrote:>> "Harry.Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:efKdnR0Bb8EVQfLfRVn-pw@comcast.com...>>
While Bush plays pattycake with the Saudi Prince,>>>Saudi Arabia's Chief Justice Urges Fighting USA>>>
Saudi chief justice>>>urges fighting U.S.>>>Comments caught on tape encouraging battle in Iraq>>>Posted: April 27, 2005>>>1:00 a.m. Eastern>>>
Is Saudi Arabia an ally or enemy of the United States in the war on >>>terror?>>>
The question is raised with the disclosure of secretly recorded comments >>>from the kingdom's chief justice encouraging young Saudis to travel to >>>Iraq to wage war against Americans.>>>
"If someone knows that he is capable of entering Iraq in order to join >>>the fight, and if his intention is to raise up the word of God, then he >>>is free to do so," says Sheik Saleh Al Luhaidan in Arabic on the October >>>audiotape from a government mosque, obtained by NBC News.>>>
While Luhaidan warns Iraq is risky because "evil satellites and drone >>>aircraft" watch the borders, he stresses making the trip to fight >>>Americans is religiously permissible.>>>
"The lawfulness of his action is in fighting an enemy who is fighting >>>Muslims and came for war," says Luhaidan.>>>
"This statement shows the real face of the Saudi government," Saudi >>>dissident Ali Al-Ahmed of the Washington-based Saudi Institute told NBC, >>>noting Saudi officials, including Luhaidan, publicly oppose holy war in >>>Iraq, but send a different message in private.>>>
"He is telling Saudis it's OK to go to Iraq and kill Americans and Iraqis >>>and they won't be punished for doing that," says Al-Ahmed.>>>
When a Saudi spokesman denied the authenticity of the tape, the network >>>contacted Luhaidan himself in Saudi Arabia to play the tape.>>>
"Yes, this is my voice," the sheik confirmed in Arabic.>>>
But Luhaidan said he meant to convey the message that it's "not worth it >>>for young Saudis to go to Iraq and that the Iraqis are capable of >>>fighting on their own," according to NBC.>>>
The revelations on the tape come the same week Saudi Arabia's crown >>>prince met with President Bush in Texas to discuss oil-related and >>>economic issues, and extremism was also said to be discussed.>>>
Last month, responding to a report revealing Saudi exportation of >>>religious extremism to the U.S., 15 senators sent a letter to Secretary >>>of State Condoleezza Rice demanding the Bush administration take stronger >>>action against Riyadh.>>>
New York Democrat Charles Schumer was among the signers of the letter, >>>which called for the U.S. to define its relationship with Saudi Arabia >>>more clearly.>>>
Schumer stated: "It is a massive contradiction that a country we call an >>>ally could be both so regressive in their own country and so brazen in >>>its propagation of anti-American, anti-women, anti-Semitic books, >>>publications, and practices. American security is undermined as the Saudi >>>government exports these hateful commodities to millions beyond its >>>borders, planting the seeds for new generations of terrorists and >>>totalitarian Wahhabi leaders.">>
I agree with Schumer. But the fact of the matter is...the Saudis have us >> by the gonads.>>
Well, if we had a real president, instead of Karl Rove, we might be able > to loosen their grip.
No we wouldn't. Pressuring the Saudis in such a way to make them "lose face" would only send oil to $80-100/barrel virtually overnight.
Saudi Arabia is in the middle of a Civil War between the current ruling family and the bin Laden-sympathizing Wahabbists. Bush is playing the only card available until oil production from Alaska and Iraq is ramped up.
"Harry.Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message news:s-qdnaW6tNE2puzfRVn-2g@comcast.com...> NOYB wrote:>> "Harry.Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:efKdnR0Bb8EVQfLfRVn-pw@comcast.com...>>
While Bush plays pattycake with the Saudi Prince,>>>Saudi Arabia's Chief Justice Urges Fighting USA>>>
Saudi chief justice>>>urges fighting U.S.>>>Comments caught on tape encouraging battle in Iraq>>>Posted: April 27, 2005>>>1:00 a.m. Eastern>>>
Is Saudi Arabia an ally or enemy of the United States in the war on >>>terror?>>>
The question is raised with the disclosure of secretly recorded comments >>>from the kingdom's chief justice encouraging young Saudis to travel to >>>Iraq to wage war against Americans.>>>
"If someone knows that he is capable of entering Iraq in order to join >>>the fight, and if his intention is to raise up the word of God, then he >>>is free to do so," says Sheik Saleh Al Luhaidan in Arabic on the October >>>audiotape from a government mosque, obtained by NBC News.>>>
While Luhaidan warns Iraq is risky because "evil satellites and drone >>>aircraft" watch the borders, he stresses making the trip to fight >>>Americans is religiously permissible.>>>
"The lawfulness of his action is in fighting an enemy who is fighting >>>Muslims and came for war," says Luhaidan.>>>
"This statement shows the real face of the Saudi government," Saudi >>>dissident Ali Al-Ahmed of the Washington-based Saudi Institute told NBC, >>>noting Saudi officials, including Luhaidan, publicly oppose holy war in >>>Iraq, but send a different message in private.>>>
"He is telling Saudis it's OK to go to Iraq and kill Americans and Iraqis >>>and they won't be punished for doing that," says Al-Ahmed.>>>
When a Saudi spokesman denied the authenticity of the tape, the network >>>contacted Luhaidan himself in Saudi Arabia to play the tape.>>>
"Yes, this is my voice," the sheik confirmed in Arabic.>>>
But Luhaidan said he meant to convey the message that it's "not worth it >>>for young Saudis to go to Iraq and that the Iraqis are capable of >>>fighting on their own," according to NBC.>>>
The revelations on the tape come the same week Saudi Arabia's crown >>>prince met with President Bush in Texas to discuss oil-related and >>>economic issues, and extremism was also said to be discussed.>>>
Last month, responding to a report revealing Saudi exportation of >>>religious extremism to the U.S., 15 senators sent a letter to Secretary >>>of State Condoleezza Rice demanding the Bush administration take stronger >>>action against Riyadh.>>>
New York Democrat Charles Schumer was among the signers of the letter, >>>which called for the U.S. to define its relationship with Saudi Arabia >>>more clearly.>>>
Schumer stated: "It is a massive contradiction that a country we call an >>>ally could be both so regressive in their own country and so brazen in >>>its propagation of anti-American, anti-women, anti-Semitic books, >>>publications, and practices. American security is undermined as the Saudi >>>government exports these hateful commodities to millions beyond its >>>borders, planting the seeds for new generations of terrorists and >>>totalitarian Wahhabi leaders.">>
I agree with Schumer. But the fact of the matter is...the Saudis have us >> by the gonads.>>
Well, if we had a real president, instead of Karl Rove, we might be able > to loosen their grip.
Actually, Bush-1, Clinton, and other presidents before them have been equipped with kneepads, for entertaining the Saudis.
Is Saudi Arabia an ally or enemy of the United States in the war on >>>>terror?>>>>
The question is raised with the disclosure of secretly recorded comments >>>
from the kingdom's chief justice encouraging young Saudis to travel to >>>
Iraq to wage war against Americans.>>>>
"If someone knows that he is capable of entering Iraq in order to join >>>>the fight, and if his intention is to raise up the word of God, then he >>>>is free to do so," says Sheik Saleh Al Luhaidan in Arabic on the October >>>>audiotape from a government mosque, obtained by NBC News.>>>>
While Luhaidan warns Iraq is risky because "evil satellites and drone >>>>aircraft" watch the borders, he stresses making the trip to fight >>>>Americans is religiously permissible.>>>>
"The lawfulness of his action is in fighting an enemy who is fighting >>>>Muslims and came for war," says Luhaidan.>>>>
"This statement shows the real face of the Saudi government," Saudi >>>>dissident Ali Al-Ahmed of the Washington-based Saudi Institute told NBC, >>>>noting Saudi officials, including Luhaidan, publicly oppose holy war in >>>>Iraq, but send a different message in private.>>>>
"He is telling Saudis it's OK to go to Iraq and kill Americans and Iraqis >>>>and they won't be punished for doing that," says Al-Ahmed.>>>>
When a Saudi spokesman denied the authenticity of the tape, the network >>>>contacted Luhaidan himself in Saudi Arabia to play the tape.>>>>
"Yes, this is my voice," the sheik confirmed in Arabic.>>>>
But Luhaidan said he meant to convey the message that it's "not worth it >>>>for young Saudis to go to Iraq and that the Iraqis are capable of >>>>fighting on their own," according to NBC.>>>>
The revelations on the tape come the same week Saudi Arabia's crown >>>>prince met with President Bush in Texas to discuss oil-related and >>>>economic issues, and extremism was also said to be discussed.>>>>
Last month, responding to a report revealing Saudi exportation of >>>>religious extremism to the U.S., 15 senators sent a letter to Secretary >>>>of State Condoleezza Rice demanding the Bush administration take stronger >>>>action against Riyadh.>>>>
New York Democrat Charles Schumer was among the signers of the letter, >>>>which called for the U.S. to define its relationship with Saudi Arabia >>>>more clearly.>>>>
Schumer stated: "It is a massive contradiction that a country we call an >>>>ally could be both so regressive in their own country and so brazen in >>>>its propagation of anti-American, anti-women, anti-Semitic books, >>>>publications, and practices. American security is undermined as the Saudi >>>>government exports these hateful commodities to millions beyond its >>>>borders, planting the seeds for new generations of terrorists and >>>>totalitarian Wahhabi leaders.">>>
I agree with Schumer. But the fact of the matter is...the Saudis have us >>>by the gonads.>>>
Well, if we had a real president, instead of Karl Rove, we might be able >>to loosen their grip.>
Actually, Bush-1, Clinton, and other presidents before them have been > equipped with kneepads, for entertaining the Saudis. >
Bush -1, Clinton, and other presidents before them were not in charge AFTER a group of Saudis crashed airplanes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.
-- Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him are destroying the once-great United States.
