Roughly 1-22 gph. There are too many variables: Alpha 1, Bravo 1,2, or 3, Volvo Penta, prop selection, load, fuel & water on board, sea conditions, etc. The most important variable is your speed. You can burn 1-2 gph at a crawl and about 20-22 at WOT.
If you want to economize - and your post hints to that - you *should* buy a fuel meter. A boat running 2500 rpms at 21 knots can burn 6 gph with that engine. That same boat at 3500 rpms and 34 knots can burn around 12 gph - about double or half of the fuel economy. A fuel flow meter can help you find your sweet spot, or cruising speed, to get the best bang for your buck and pay off that meter in a short period of time. Here's a boat with a Volvo 5.7 that was tested...
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:34:42 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com> wrote:
Roughly 1-22 gph. There are too many variables: Alpha 1, Bravo 1,2, or >3, Volvo Penta, prop selection, load, fuel & water on board, sea >conditions, etc. The most important variable is your speed. You can >burn 1-2 gph at a crawl and about 20-22 at WOT.>
If you want to economize - and your post hints to that - you *should* >buy a fuel meter. A boat running 2500 rpms at 21 knots can burn 6 gph >with that engine. That same boat at 3500 rpms and 34 knots can burn >around 12 gph - about double or half of the fuel economy. A fuel flow >meter can help you find your sweet spot, or cruising speed, to get the >best bang for your buck and pay off that meter in a short period of >time. Here's a boat with a Volvo 5.7 that was tested...>
Thanks Dan, I should have mentioned it has an Alpha I outdrive. It looks like trolling (8-900 rpm) will burn about 1 gph and cruising (usually about 3200 rpm) will burn about 10gph. Guess I better spend more time fishing and less time playing! -- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This assumes you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The lower the rpms the better the mileage.
Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This will tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.
"John H" <notavailable@here.com> wrote in message news:n7gg511g5vg639oeilmo56savfenrd9bbl@4ax.com...> Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption> expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted > engine?>
It's listed in the Powerboat Guide, which I'm too cheap to buy just to get > this> question answered.>
I'm also too cheap to put a fuel meter on it.>
Actually, I'm so cheap I may not burn the electricity to turn this > computer on> to get an answer....but I'll love you if you try.>
Thanks!> -- > John H>
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This assumes >you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The >lower the rpms the better the mileage.>
Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours >do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you >should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This will >tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.>
Of course that is my opinion.
Actually, Tony, gph is better in my case. When fishing, I am either trolling or going somewhere on plane and anchoring for a long time (or just drifting). If trolling, I might be on plane for a half hour and then troll at 1-3 mph for four or five hours (unless I'm lucky and limit out early!). If bottom fishing, I may be on plane for an hour getting to the site, and then anchoring for four or five hours. So I really need to know my planing consumption and my trolling consumption. That way, if I'm splitting the gas costs with a couple other folks it'll be fair all around. -- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you know exactly how much you burned.
-- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "John H" <notavailable@here.com> wrote in message news:9irg519pvuom5pio1edkn22mcscvj1eeh6@4ax.com...> On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:37:36 GMT, "tony thomas" <t.thomas@mchsi.com> > wrote:>
On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This >>assumes>>you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The>>lower the rpms the better the mileage.>>
Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours>>do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you>>should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This >>will>>tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.>>
Of course that is my opinion.>
Actually, Tony, gph is better in my case. When fishing, I am either > trolling or> going somewhere on plane and anchoring for a long time (or just drifting). > If> trolling, I might be on plane for a half hour and then troll at 1-3 mph > for four> or five hours (unless I'm lucky and limit out early!). If bottom fishing, > I may> be on plane for an hour getting to the site, and then anchoring for four > or five> hours. So I really need to know my planing consumption and my trolling> consumption. That way, if I'm splitting the gas costs with a couple other > folks> it'll be fair all around.> -- > John H>
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start out full >of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you know exactly how >much you burned.
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so every time I go out. But, I don't. -- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
John H wrote:> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas" <t.thomas@mchsi.com> wrote:>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start out full >>of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you know exactly how >>much you burned.>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so every time I> go out. But, I don't.
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. You can probably install it yourself.
-- Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him are destroying the once-great United States.
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in the boat two years later....
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>> out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>> know exactly how much you burned.>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >> every time I>> go out. But, I don't.>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. > You can probably install it yourself.>
"Harry Krause" <piedtypecase@yahoo.com> wrote in message news37j51dt17ldkid0fijf6t2akr61d1107e@4ax.com...> On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:58:45 -0400, John H <notavailable@here.com>> wrote:>
Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption>>expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted >>engine?>
I owned 2 Pro-Line's. Sold the off for a hefty profit.
Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to be them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.
"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message news4i6e.12887$Ln.561590@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...> SoFarrell wrote:>
Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to >> be them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.>>
You would need a program to keep tabs on the various idiots who come here > to harass legit boaters.
What is their point? I just don't get it. What would this fellow with all the IDs here think he is accomplishing besides annoying everyone with juvenile antics?
With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate> interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being> harassed.>
Get a life (outside the news group).
MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including the names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using a couple of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's also real vague about himself. He's a troll.
"Me Again" <meagain@bac.com> wrote in message news:OY6dnWInr5MrRsTfRVn-qA@comcast.com...> Don,> They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.>
"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news4i6e.12887$Ln.561590@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...>> SoFarrell wrote:>>
Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to >>> be them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.>>>
You would need a program to keep tabs on the various idiots who come here >> to harass legit boaters.>
No, they're harassing everyone in here who wants to talk about boats and fishing. You are one of the worse offenders.
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >the boat two years later....>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>> out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>> know exactly how much you burned.>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>> every time I>>> go out. But, I don't.>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >> You can probably install it yourself.>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?
-- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
John H wrote:> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>the boat two years later....>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>every time I>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I> consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break> down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not> a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>
Poor John. I know where to get the model of fuel flow gauge he needs, and at a really good price, and I know about the installation, too. But why bother posting that information.
With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate>> interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being>> harassed.>>
Get a life (outside the news group).>
MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including > the names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using a > couple of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's > also real vague about himself. He's a troll.>
"Me Again" <meagain@bac.com> wrote in message news:hbadnU6A8Yss9MffRVn-uA@comcast.com...> SoFarrell,> You are incorrect in your observations and obsessions.>
"SoFarrell" <NoSpam@Yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1113189806.39e3d1f0662add7a1198323728e7d7a3@teranews...>>
"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:asoj51p63m7a5rm5jbb91ehv8sq1pt9v75@4ax.com...>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again" <meagain@bac.com>>>> wrote:>>>
They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.>>>
With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate>>> interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being>>> harassed.>>>
Get a life (outside the news group).>>
MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including >> the names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using a >> couple of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's >> also real vague about himself. He's a troll.>>
Obsessions?????
You pollute this newsgroup with two dozen identities and take potshots all day long at krause and post with his identity and you think I am obsessed?
Look in the mirror, buckwheat. Obsession is thy name.
"SoFarrell" <NoSpam@Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1113226236.6f89f26e5cfe915d9ecea63758b21365@teranews...>
"Me Again" <meagain@bac.com> wrote in message > news:hbadnU6A8Yss9MffRVn-uA@comcast.com...>> SoFarrell,>> You are incorrect in your observations and obsessions.>>
"SoFarrell" <NoSpam@Yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1113189806.39e3d1f0662add7a1198323728e7d7a3@teranews...>>>
"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:asoj51p63m7a5rm5jbb91ehv8sq1pt9v75@4ax.com...>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again" <meagain@bac.com>>>>> wrote:>>>>
They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.>>>>
With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate>>>> interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being>>>> harassed.>>>>
Get a life (outside the news group).>>>
MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including >>> the names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using >>> a couple of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's >>> also real vague about himself. He's a troll.>>>
Obsessions?????>
You pollute this newsgroup with two dozen identities and take potshots all > day long at krause and post with his identity and you think I am obsessed?>
Look in the mirror, buckwheat. Obsession is thy name.>
If your boat holds 120 gallons of fuel and you plan on spending a few hours cruising or making a quick run to the reef and back, it doesn't make sense to fill your tank every time you go out. That full 700# will cost you more to carry around. I try to start with about twice as much gas as I think I will use. If I'm trailering, I'll fill it up since the gas on shore is so much cheaper than the fuel docks.
Dan
John H wrote:> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas" <t.thomas@mchsi.com> wrote:>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start out full >>of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you know exactly how >>much you burned.>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so every time I> go out. But, I don't.
Dan Krueger wrote:> If your boat holds 120 gallons of fuel and you plan on spending a few > hours cruising or making a quick run to the reef and back, it doesn't > make sense to fill your tank every time you go out. That full 700# will > cost you more to carry around. I try to start with about twice as much > gas as I think I will use. If I'm trailering, I'll fill it up since the > gas on shore is so much cheaper than the fuel docks.>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>> out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>> know exactly how much you burned.>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >> every time I>> go out. But, I don't.
I don't keep more than 80-90 gallons (half tank) in my Parker, and I use my flow gauge to keep track of it. Another 80 gallons would weigh between 560 pounds or so, and who needs to drag that around on the Bay?
I can run seven hours at high cruise on that half tank, with fuel to spare. More typically, I might run two to three hours at high cruise, and maybe an hour at trolling speeds.
-- Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him are destroying the once-great United States.
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>the boat two years later....>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>every time I>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I> consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break> down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not> a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>>the boat two years later....>>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>>every time I>>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I>> consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break>> down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not>> a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check it out. -- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
"John H" <notavailable@here.com> wrote in message news:93am511d3d4vbr5rqksr6vn3gg7jo1rpc5@4ax.com...> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>> wrote:>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:> >>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will> >>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a> >>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had> >>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best> >>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in> >>>the boat two years later....> >>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start> >>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you> >>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.> >>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so> >>>>>every time I> >>>>>go out. But, I don't.> >>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.> >>>>You can probably install it yourself.> >>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every
year I> >> consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break> >> down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not> >> a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?> >>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to
check> it out.> -- > John H>
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
"John H" <notavailable@here.com> wrote in message>news:93am511d3d4vbr5rqksr6vn3gg7jo1rpc5@4ax.com...>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger><dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>>> wrote:>>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>> >>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will>> >>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a>> >>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had>> >>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best>> >>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in>> >>>the boat two years later....>> >>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start>> >>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you>> >>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>> >>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so>> >>>>>every time I>> >>>>>go out. But, I don't.>> >>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.>> >>>>You can probably install it yourself.>> >>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every>year I>> >> consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year>I'll break>> >> down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the>gauge. Not>> >> a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>> >>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to>check>> it out.>> -- >> John H>>
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking.">
Thanks CB, I'll check them both out next time I'm in Boat US. -- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me (minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a price but that would be ... spam.
Dan
John H wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>> wrote:>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>>>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>>>the boat two years later....>>>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>>>every time I>>>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I>>>consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break>>>down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not>>>a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>>>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check> it out.
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:52:24 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com> wrote:
John,>
I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me >(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this >directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same >deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a >price but that would be ... spam.>
John H wrote:>
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>>> wrote:>>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>>>>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>>>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>>>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>>>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>>>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>>>>the boat two years later....>>>>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>>>>every time I>>>>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>>>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I>>>>consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break>>>>down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not>>>>a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>>>>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check>> it out.
Hey Dan. An email is on its way to you, without the x's.
Thanks! -- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
John H wrote:> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:52:24 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>> wrote:>
John,>>
I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me >>(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this >>directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same >>deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a >>price but that would be ... spam.>>
John H wrote:>>
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>>>>wrote:>>>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>>>>>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>>>>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>>>>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>>>>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>>>>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>>>>>the boat two years later....>>>>>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>>>>>every time I>>>>>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>>>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>>>>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>>>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I>>>>>consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break>>>>>down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not>>>>>a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>>>>>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check>>>it out. >
Hey Dan. An email is on its way to you, without the x's.>
Thanks!
No kisses for Dan?
-- Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him are destroying the once-great United States.
Your email address was the same as you use here. Please send it again and I will reply tomorrow.
Dan
John H wrote:> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:52:24 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>> wrote:>
John,>>
I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me >>(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this >>directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same >>deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a >>price but that would be ... spam.>>
John H wrote:>>
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>>>>wrote:>>>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>>>>>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>>>>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>>>>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>>>>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>>>>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>>>>>the boat two years later....>>>>>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>>>>>every time I>>>>>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>>>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>>>>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>>>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I>>>>>consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break>>>>>down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not>>>>>a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>>>>>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check>>>it out. >
Hey Dan. An email is on its way to you, without the x's.>
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:40:47 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com> wrote:
John,>
Your email address was the same as you use here. Please send it again >and I will reply tomorrow.>
John H wrote:>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:52:24 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>>> wrote:>>
John,>>>
I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me >>>(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this >>>directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same >>>deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a >>>price but that would be ... spam.>>>
John H wrote:>>>
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger <dankrueger@mindspringxxx.com>>>>>wrote:>>>>
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed <ed@nospam.com> wrote:>>>>>>
Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will >>>>>>>probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a >>>>>>>Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had >>>>>>>to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best >>>>>>>fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in >>>>>>>the boat two years later....>>>>>>>
Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start >>>>>>>>>>out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you >>>>>>>>>>know exactly how much you burned.>>>>>>>>>
That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so >>>>>>>>>every time I>>>>>>>>>go out. But, I don't.>>>>>>>>
For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it. >>>>>>>>You can probably install it yourself.>>>>>>>>
Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I>>>>>>consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break>>>>>>down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not>>>>>>a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?>>>>>>
Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check>>>>it out. >>
Hey Dan. An email is on its way to you, without the x's.>>
Thanks!
-- John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
I wish I got such great "economy"! I average only about 2mpg with my 200hp merc. I usually run 3/4 throttle (35-40mph) for 9miles to the pass then troll or run as fast as I can safely and comfortably go to a bottom fishing spot. My boat has twin 18gal and a third 17gal tank and consistantly, with a mix of trolling and crusing gets between 1.9 to 2.1 mpg. I keep a log with fishing, weather info and how much gas I put in. Maybe to determine the overall running time on the engine an hour meter is good but I could care less about how many gallons it takes me to move for one hour. Once I've commited to go fishing, I just want to be sure I have plenty of gas to get back! In the example it's obvious that at 1500 rpm the boat's trying to get on plane and at 2500rpm it's on plane and that WFO is inefficient (and not too good on the engine life either). Notice that, once it's on plane at 24.4mph it's as efficient as creeping along at 3.7mph. But within the parameters of 3.7mph to 45.3 mph (avoiding the 1500 rpm), there's not much difference. And, in the example, is one really going to run 5.8 mph for 30 miles just for economy? If I run any distance at 3.7 or 5.8 mph it's because I trolling--not trying to save gas. If I really wanted to save gas I guess I'd get a sailboat! Let's go fish! LD
"tony thomas" <t.thomas@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:QOY5e.1364$xL4.780@attbi_s72...> On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This assumes> you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The> lower the rpms the better the mileage.>
Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours> do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you> should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This
will> tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.>
"John H" <notavailable@here.com> wrote in message> news:n7gg511g5vg639oeilmo56savfenrd9bbl@4ax.com...> > Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption> > expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted> > engine?> >
It's listed in the Powerboat Guide, which I'm too cheap to buy just to
this> > question answered.> >
I'm also too cheap to put a fuel meter on it.> >
Actually, I'm so cheap I may not burn the electricity to turn this> > computer on> > to get an answer....but I'll love you if you try.> >
Thanks!> > -- > > John H> >
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking.">
