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I'm sorry.....I thought this NG was for boaters.
Milky-G 3 March 2005 06:35:43
	Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.
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Jim 3 March 2005 06:41:57 [ permanent link ]
	Milky-G wrote:> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the > political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already > unsubscribed from last week. My mistake. > It is (at least nominally) There IS some good information to be had here -- Unfortunately of late things have turned more into a bar brawl. IF you have a boating question -- ask away -- maybe someone will break away from the fight long enough to give you a reasonable answer.
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Harry Krause 3 March 2005 07:32:23 [ permanent link ]
	Jim, wrote:> Milky-G wrote:> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the >> political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I >> already unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.>> It is (at least nominally) There IS some good information to be had > here -- Unfortunately of late things have turned more into a bar brawl.> IF you have a boating question -- ask away -- maybe someone will break > away from the fight long enough to give you a reasonable answer. Milky@biteme.com? Doubtful.
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Short Wave Sportfishing 4 March 2005 01:02:08 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:35:43 -0500, "Milky-G" <milky@biteme.com> wrote: Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the >political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already >unsubscribed from last week. My mistake. Yes it was. This group is about lobsters.
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John H 4 March 2005 01:07:07 [ permanent link ]
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Guest 4 March 2005 06:15:34 [ permanent link ]
	Milky-G wrote:> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already> unsubscribed from last week. My mistake. The title is deceiving. Years ago this was a boating newsgroup. Today, most of the frequent posters to the NG are non-boaters. Most of the so called "threads" are just blatant political trolls, and lately one group of like-minded individuals sharing a common poliltical and philosophical view of the world have specialized in launching threads for the sole purpose of name calling and other juvenile behavior. Nobody would seriously expect a newcomer to hang around here. The boating aspect of rec.boats is dead as a doornail. When somebody makes a boating related statement, he or she can expect long-winded, mean spirited responses from people who disagree on the subject but who cannot express their contrary opinion in a civil, responsible tone. This NG is becoming a toilet. No point hanging around hoping it will get better, as some of the perpetrators have publicly expressed, in this forum, that their goal in rec.boats NG is to screw it up as badly as they can. Worse yet, nearly all are gulty of at least some bad behavior- myself included. Get the heck out of the asylum while there's still time. Flee for your life, man!
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Harry Krause 4 March 2005 06:35:19 [ permanent link ]
	gould0738@aol.com wrote:> Milky-G wrote:> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be> political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I> already> unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.> The title is deceiving. Years ago this was a boating newsgroup.> Today, most of the frequent posters to the NG are non-boaters.> Most of the so called "threads" are just blatant political trolls, and> lately one group of like-minded individuals sharing a common poliltical> and philosophical view of the world have specialized in launching> threads for the sole purpose of name calling and other juvenile> behavior.> Nobody would seriously expect a newcomer to hang around here. The> boating aspect of rec.boats is dead as a doornail. When somebody makes> a boating related statement, he or she can expect long-winded, mean> spirited responses from people who disagree on the subject but who> cannot express their contrary opinion in a civil, responsible tone.> This NG is becoming a toilet. No point hanging around hoping it will> get better, as some of the perpetrators have publicly expressed, in> this forum, that their goal in rec.boats NG is to screw it up as badly> as they can.> Worse yet, nearly all are gulty of at least some bad behavior- myself> included.> Get the heck out of the asylum while there's still time. Flee for your> life, man!> I think you've understated the problem, Chuckster. There are about a half-dozen posters here who either never post about a boating topic or do so so infrequently that I cannot recall their last on-topic "contribution." Now, off-topic posting doesn't offend me. I'm as guilty as anyone of this. I either read an off-topic post or I don't. It is the viciousness of some of these posters I find obnoxious. So obnoxious that I have filtered most of them out. They are here solely as attack dogs, as far as I can tell. I believe their purpose in showing up here is to destroy this newsgroup. They're pretty much succeeded. We also have two infrequent posters here who start nearly violent arguments on on-topic matters with almost every post. One, a sailboater, argues minor issues to the point of nauseum. The other gets off by posting incredible long and horribly written psychotic screeds about those on that individual's "s-list." Within these groups are a couple of individuals who log on here solely to create problems of some sort for those they do not like. If there is a lower life form on usenet, I'm unaware of it. I don't spend much time here anymore. When I take breaks from work and want to read a bit on subjects that interest me, or engage in reasonable discourse, I head to places where there are fewer droolers. I don't know if this newsgroup can recover.
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Dr. Jonathan Smithers 4 March 2005 08:03:55 [ permanent link ]
	Harry, If anyone can take responsibility for the tone of rec.boats, it is you. "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:F9OdndkyA8r1VLrfRVn-pw@comcast.com...> gould0738@aol.com wrote:>> Milky-G wrote:>> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be>> political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I>> already>> unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.>> The title is deceiving. Years ago this was a boating newsgroup.>> Today, most of the frequent posters to the NG are non-boaters.>> Most of the so called "threads" are just blatant political trolls, and>> lately one group of like-minded individuals sharing a common poliltical>> and philosophical view of the world have specialized in launching>> threads for the sole purpose of name calling and other juvenile>> behavior.>> Nobody would seriously expect a newcomer to hang around here. The>> boating aspect of rec.boats is dead as a doornail. When somebody makes>> a boating related statement, he or she can expect long-winded, mean>> spirited responses from people who disagree on the subject but who>> cannot express their contrary opinion in a civil, responsible tone.>> This NG is becoming a toilet. No point hanging around hoping it will>> get better, as some of the perpetrators have publicly expressed, in>> this forum, that their goal in rec.boats NG is to screw it up as badly>> as they can.>> Worse yet, nearly all are gulty of at least some bad behavior- myself>> included.>> Get the heck out of the asylum while there's still time. Flee for your>> life, man!>> I think you've understated the problem, Chuckster.> There are about a half-dozen posters here who either never post about a > boating topic or do so so infrequently that I cannot recall their last > on-topic "contribution."> Now, off-topic posting doesn't offend me. I'm as guilty as anyone of this. > I either read an off-topic post or I don't.> It is the viciousness of some of these posters I find obnoxious. So > obnoxious that I have filtered most of them out. They are here solely as > attack dogs, as far as I can tell. I believe their purpose in showing up > here is to destroy this newsgroup. They're pretty much succeeded.> We also have two infrequent posters here who start nearly violent > arguments on on-topic matters with almost every post. One, a sailboater, > argues minor issues to the point of nauseum. The other gets off by posting > incredible long and horribly written psychotic screeds about those on that > individual's "s-list."> Within these groups are a couple of individuals who log on here solely to > create problems of some sort for those they do not like. If there is a > lower life form on usenet, I'm unaware of it.> I don't spend much time here anymore. When I take breaks from work and > want to read a bit on subjects that interest me, or engage in reasonable > discourse, I head to places where there are fewer droolers.> I don't know if this newsgroup can recover.>
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Mgg 4 March 2005 08:21:48 [ permanent link ]
	AMEN! As far as I can tell, this newsgroup is dead. I received some help, and gave some (I hope), but last years election destroyed this group. Filtering doesn't help unfortunately. I hope we can recover. --Mike <gould0738@aol.com> wrote in message news:1109902534.082651.28290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> Milky-G wrote:>> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be> the>> political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I> already>> unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.> The title is deceiving. Years ago this was a boating newsgroup.> Today, most of the frequent posters to the NG are non-boaters.> Most of the so called "threads" are just blatant political trolls, and> lately one group of like-minded individuals sharing a common poliltical> and philosophical view of the world have specialized in launching> threads for the sole purpose of name calling and other juvenile> behavior.> Nobody would seriously expect a newcomer to hang around here. The> boating aspect of rec.boats is dead as a doornail. When somebody makes> a boating related statement, he or she can expect long-winded, mean> spirited responses from people who disagree on the subject but who> cannot express their contrary opinion in a civil, responsible tone.> This NG is becoming a toilet. No point hanging around hoping it will> get better, as some of the perpetrators have publicly expressed, in> this forum, that their goal in rec.boats NG is to screw it up as badly> as they can.> Worse yet, nearly all are gulty of at least some bad behavior- myself> included.> Get the heck out of the asylum while there's still time. Flee for your> life, man!>
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Netsock 4 March 2005 16:44:58 [ permanent link ]
	"Milky-G" <milky@biteme.com> wrote in message news:W6OdnZmbZuVm6rvfRVn-vA@adelphia.com...> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the> political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already> unsubscribed from last week. My mistake. Milky, All you need to do is set up some filters, and kill file some cronic abusers. Filter out stuff like "war, ot, bush, kerry, iraq, election, troops, etc". And kill file those who post off-topic, and those you feed those trolls. There was this boatless clown named Harry Krause...I think he is still around...kill filing him alone will cut down on 50% of the garbage here. Good luck. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/
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Netsock 4 March 2005 16:52:05 [ permanent link ]
	Netsock wrote:> "Milky-G" <milky@biteme.com> wrote in message> news:W6OdnZmbZuVm6rvfRVn-vA@adelphia.com...> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the>>political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already>>unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.> Milky,> All you need to do is set up some filters, and kill file some cronic> abusers.> Filter out stuff like "war, ot, bush, kerry, iraq, election, troops, etc".> And kill file those who post off-topic, and those you feed those trolls.> There was this boatless clown named Harry Krause...I think he is still> around...kill filing him alone will cut down on 50% of the garbage here.> Good luck.> Or you could simply filter out Netsock and his many identities here.
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John H 4 March 2005 17:01:08 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 23:03:55 -0500, "Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." <yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote: Harry,>If anyone can take responsibility for the tone of rec.boats, it is you.> See, Harry's attacks are neither vicious nor obnoxious. His attacks, although almost continuous from what I can see, are gentlemanly and welcomed. "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:F9OdndkyA8r1VLrfRVn-pw@comcast.com... It is the viciousness of some of these posters I find obnoxious. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
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P.Fritz 4 March 2005 17:39:12 [ permanent link ]
	"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." <yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:dY2dnUY099W0Q7rfRVn-oA@comcast.com...> Harry,> If anyone can take responsibility for the tone of rec.boats, it is you. Harry complaing about the 'viciousness' of posts........LMAO.......I think he's trying to contend for the "King" title "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:F9OdndkyA8r1VLrfRVn-pw@comcast.com...>> gould0738@aol.com wrote:>>> Milky-G wrote:>>> Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be>>> political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I>>> already>>> unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.>>> The title is deceiving. Years ago this was a boating newsgroup.>>> Today, most of the frequent posters to the NG are non-boaters.>>> Most of the so called "threads" are just blatant political trolls, and>>> lately one group of like-minded individuals sharing a common poliltical>>> and philosophical view of the world have specialized in launching>>> threads for the sole purpose of name calling and other juvenile>>> behavior.>>> Nobody would seriously expect a newcomer to hang around here. The>>> boating aspect of rec.boats is dead as a doornail. When somebody makes>>> a boating related statement, he or she can expect long-winded, mean>>> spirited responses from people who disagree on the subject but who>>> cannot express their contrary opinion in a civil, responsible tone.>>> This NG is becoming a toilet. No point hanging around hoping it will>>> get better, as some of the perpetrators have publicly expressed, in>>> this forum, that their goal in rec.boats NG is to screw it up as badly>>> as they can.>>> Worse yet, nearly all are gulty of at least some bad behavior- myself>>> included.>>> Get the heck out of the asylum while there's still time. Flee for your>>> life, man!>>> I think you've understated the problem, Chuckster.>> There are about a half-dozen posters here who either never post about a >> boating topic or do so so infrequently that I cannot recall their last >> on-topic "contribution.">> Now, off-topic posting doesn't offend me. I'm as guilty as anyone of >> this. I either read an off-topic post or I don't.>> It is the viciousness of some of these posters I find obnoxious. So >> obnoxious that I have filtered most of them out. They are here solely as >> attack dogs, as far as I can tell. I believe their purpose in showing up >> here is to destroy this newsgroup. They're pretty much succeeded.>> We also have two infrequent posters here who start nearly violent >> arguments on on-topic matters with almost every post. One, a sailboater, >> argues minor issues to the point of nauseum. The other gets off by >> posting incredible long and horribly written psychotic screeds about >> those on that individual's "s-list.">> Within these groups are a couple of individuals who log on here solely to >> create problems of some sort for those they do not like. If there is a >> lower life form on usenet, I'm unaware of it.>> I don't spend much time here anymore. When I take breaks from work and >> want to read a bit on subjects that interest me, or engage in reasonable >> discourse, I head to places where there are fewer droolers.>> I don't know if this newsgroup can recover.>>
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Netsock 4 March 2005 21:26:01 [ permanent link ]
	"Harry Kruase" <TheVillageIdiot@rec.boats> wrote in message> news:38r3vlF5lb8u5U1@individual.net...> Then again it probably is my evil twin that makes me do this. Heh heh... For a grown man, you sure are an immature sap. But I suppose jealousy is a powerful emotion, wouldn't you agree Harry? Good luck in life...you sure need it... -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/
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Harry Krause 4 March 2005 21:30:53 [ permanent link ]
	Netsock wrote:>>"Harry Kruase" <TheVillageIdiot@rec.boats> wrote in message>> news:38r3vlF5lb8u5U1@individual.net...>>Then again it probably is my evil twin that makes me do this.> Heh heh...> For a grown man, you sure are an immature sap.> But I suppose jealousy is a powerful emotion, wouldn't you agree Harry? > Good luck in life...you sure need it...> Change your meds or something? Why would anyone be jealous of a daddy's little boy twerp like you? And isn't it time for you to shift into one of your other IDs?
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Harry Krause 5 March 2005 18:58:24 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:35:43 -0500, "Milky-G" <milky@biteme.com> wrote: Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the >political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already >unsubscribed from last week. My mistake. Yes, your mistake. This group is my very own platform to show my vast and superior boating knowledge. You should consider yourself lucky, I dont contact your ISP, and have you arrested.
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