Sorry I deleted the WEI table by accident while trying to create a bitmap for Bob J. So you'll just have to click on the link... http://tinyurl.com/4stqx Can someone tell me in a little bit of detail how to make this shot, I have come pretty close but haven't made it yet. Cue ball sails by the eight and either pockets a ball in the corner or just goes into the corner then the eight follows. I know it's a popular trick shot.
Sorry I deleted the WEI table by accident while trying to create a bitmap> for Bob J. So you'll just have to click on the link...> http://tinyurl.com/4stqx
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Can someone tell me in a little bit of detail how> to make this shot, I have come pretty close but haven't made it yet. Cue> ball sails by the eight and either pockets a ball in the corner or just goes> into the corner then the eight follows. I know it's a popular trick shot.
I'm guessing a little, but....
It's called the "Passing Lane" shot, and is on the Artistic Poolplayers (IAPA) website. See the next to last shot on
Patrick Johnson 29 March 2005 08:12:41 [ permanent link ]
HopsNBarley wrote:> ... Cue> ball sails by the eight and either pockets a ball in the corner or just goes> into the corner then the eight follows.
I can't see your diagram, but this sounds like the "passing lane" shot, where you freeze the cue ball behind the 8-ball a long distance from the corner pocket and the cue ball passes the 8-ball, beating it to the pocket.
The idea is to masse the cue ball out and around the 8-ball, aiming it forward and to the side so it "cuts" the 8-ball toward the pocket. The cut angle makes the 8-ball go relatively slowly, and the masse spin on the cue ball is loaded with "forward" so it accelerates past the 8-ball after curving around it and toward the pocket.
Imagine a line on the cloth that goes through the CB/8-ball centers toward the target pocket - let's call the direction toward the pocket "north" - and another, perpendicular line through the cue ball's center extending "east and west". Viewed from above, these lines divide the CB into quarters, which we'll label "northeast", "northwest", "southeast" and "southwest". The northeast and northwest quarters are the ones closest to the 8-ball (on either side of the "north/south" line) - let's say you're standing on the "east" side of the ball.
Elevate your stick 60 to 80 degrees (it's easiest to use a dart grip) and aim it down through the "northeast" quadrant of the cue ball with your stick aimed down and to the "northwest" so that if extended it would pierce the cue ball and touch the "north" line on the cloth. Your stick can be at various elevations and aimed at various northwest angles and still fit this description. By trial and error, vary these factors, and the force of your hit, to accomplish the following things:
Change your aim (the northwest angle you're pointing the stick) to change the speed of the 8-ball toward the pocket - try half and half to start.
Change your stick's elevation (and the force of your stroke) to change how far the CB will slide "west" before curving "north". It only has to be enough to get around the 8-ball.
Change how far "north" (forward) you're hitting on the CB (and the force of your stroke) to change the CB's speed toward the pocket - this changes the "forward" spin on the CB.
Remember, you're not *driving* the CB toward the pocket; you're masseing it toward the pocket.
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The link never worked? Opps.... http://community.webshots.com/user/gdeneweth Still under the pool table alum. I think it is called the passing lane shot... That looks like the shot, but I thought I seen it against the rail...(as in my diagram that you couldn't see) I'll try it away from the rail as diagramed, maybe that is my problem.
Thanks for the link, I like Shot #5, ref #14, very similar....
Patrick Johnson 31 March 2005 00:10:26 [ permanent link ]
Andy Segal wrote:
There are some mistakes in the explanation on how to make this shot.
The shot works as I describe it. I'll try your way next time, but I'll bet it isn't as pretty.
Pat Johnson Chicago
1: The cue ball and object ball must be frozen. Even the slightest> space will affect the shot.>
2: In the artistic pool shot program, both the cue ball and object> ball must be within 1 diamond of the corner pocket. This is not> required to make the shot, but it is easier if you have a long distance> between the balls and the target pocket. I shoot this shot next to the> right side cushion, so I put the cue ball about 1/4 diamond to the left> of the long rail, and the object ball in front of it.>
3: The cue ball / object ball centers should be lined up to the right> of the target pocket. I usually line them up directly at the far point> of the side pocket, but on some tables you need to angle them slightly> closer to the target pocket. You will have to play with this. The> point is that they need to be lined up to the right of the corner> pocket because the object ball will throw slightly to the left. For> now, just line them up at the far point of the side pocket.>
4: You will be aiming almost straight up the table (parallel to the> long rail). Actually, you need to aim very slightly left of this (away> from the long rail).>
5: Jack up, but not as much as 60-80 degrees. You are jacking up> about 20-30 degrees only. Aim with high right english.>
6: You need to hit this as you would a masse shot (actually,> semi-masse shot). The cue ball only needs to curve a little bit.> Don't hit the cue ball too close to the center or you will not get> enough follow to pass the object ball, or masse to curve around it.>
7: If the cue ball is not passing the object ball, you need to hit> with more follow.>
8: If the cue ball is passing the object ball, but not curving enough,> you either need to hit it with more right english, or jack up more.> Don't jack up too much or you will not get enough speed to pass the> object ball.>
9: If the object ball is missing the pocket, you simply need to adjust> the angle of the cue ball / object ball center line.>
10: When first trying this shot, sometimes it helps to move the cue> ball / object ball back far enough so you can bridge on the short rail> instead of on the bed of the table.>
Good Luck>
Andy Segal> Patrick Johnson wrote:>
HopsNBarley wrote:>>
... Cue>>>ball sails by the eight and either pockets a ball in the corner or>
just goes>
into the corner then the eight follows.>>
I can't see your diagram, but this sounds like the "passing lane">
shot,>
where you freeze the cue ball behind the 8-ball a long distance from>
corner pocket and the cue ball passes the 8-ball, beating it to the>
pocket.>
The idea is to masse the cue ball out and around the 8-ball, aiming>
forward and to the side so it "cuts" the 8-ball toward the pocket.>
cut angle makes the 8-ball go relatively slowly, and the masse spin>
the cue ball is loaded with "forward" so it accelerates past the>
8-ball>
after curving around it and toward the pocket.>>
Imagine a line on the cloth that goes through the CB/8-ball centers>>toward the target pocket - let's call the direction toward the pocket>
"north" - and another, perpendicular line through the cue ball's>
center>
extending "east and west". Viewed from above, these lines divide the>
into quarters, which we'll label "northeast", "northwest",>
"southeast">
and "southwest". The northeast and northwest quarters are the ones>>closest to the 8-ball (on either side of the "north/south" line) ->
let's>
say you're standing on the "east" side of the ball.>>
Elevate your stick 60 to 80 degrees (it's easiest to use a dart grip)>
and aim it down through the "northeast" quadrant of the cue ball with>
your stick aimed down and to the "northwest" so that if extended it>>would pierce the cue ball and touch the "north" line on the cloth.>
Your>
stick can be at various elevations and aimed at various northwest>
angles>
and still fit this description. By trial and error, vary these>
factors,>
and the force of your hit, to accomplish the following things:>>
Change your aim (the northwest angle you're pointing the stick) to>>change the speed of the 8-ball toward the pocket - try half and half>
start.>>
Change your stick's elevation (and the force of your stroke) to>
change>
how far the CB will slide "west" before curving "north". It only has>
be enough to get around the 8-ball.>>
Change how far "north" (forward) you're hitting on the CB (and the>
force>
of your stroke) to change the CB's speed toward the pocket - this>>changes the "forward" spin on the CB.>>
Remember, you're not *driving* the CB toward the pocket; you're>
