What angle in relation to a straight line going through the cue ball and object ball do you shoot the cue ball?
What speed?
On page 4 of the link below, it discusses a "fouette shot". This shot is used when the cue ball is very close to the object ball and I think it is used mostly in 3 cushion play?
Here is what I have found on the internet about this...
["Fouetté", in French' means "whipped" (as in "crème fouettée"). In pool, it refers to a shot with a very pronunced whipping wrist action.]
[A fouette or fuete shot describes a shot when the cue ball and object ball are very close and the shooter decides to shoot right at the OB which usually ends up as a foul. With the fuete shot, there is a slight elevation of the cue, and the aim is way out on the edge of the ball. What happens is the cue, after contact with the CB, moves away from the ball avoiding the double hit.]
Bob gives some good information here, and I agree with most of it, but not all of it.
1: Do not use a swerve stroke. I am assuming that he means that you are swerving your back arm to get the cue stick out of the way. This will hurt your accuracy and is bad form. Just shoot straight through the cue ball. You are always putting some side english on the cue ball so that will naturally bounce the cue stick out of the way of a double hit, provided that you are using the 'correct' side english.
1a: Also, the flexibility of the shaft has nothing to do with this shot. I have performed this shot with a house cue that is like a tree trunk. It is all in your stroke. If you can do it, you can do it with a stiff or flexible shaft. The flexibility of the shaft is not what causes the extreme spin, nor is it what causes the cue stick to deflect out of a double hit.
2: Bob is correct that you need to hit the cue ball well off center, but I want to just emphasize that this is not always the case (see my second shot below). Bob states this in his post and it is 100% true. You have to adjust the amount of english based on the type of fouette shot.
Here is a link to the artistic pool website's shot program:
Go to this link and scroll down to discipline # 6 - Stroke. There is a link at the top of the page that will scroll down quickly to this point.
Once you get to discipline 6 - stroke, scroll down through the shots. There are 2 shots that use this type of stroke: shot # 4 and playoff shot # 2. I will try to explain how to shoot both of these:
Shot # 4: I place the cue ball exactly 2 balls off the short rail, and 1/2 diamond away from the long rail. The object ball is placed in front of the cue ball, between 1/16 and 1/8 inch away. Start with 1/8 inch because it is easier. The cue ball - object ball should line up directly with the far corner pocket. Sometimes you have to adjust this slightly so they line up a little (very slightly) left of the pocket. My aim point is at the first diamond next to pocket A (on the short rail). In the diagram, this is the upper diamond on the head rail. I am aiming with high left english. If you think of the cue ball as a clock, I aim at the point between 10 o'clock and 11 o'clock. Jack up a little - maybe 20 degrees. You need to stroke straight through the cue ball with this high left english. The left english will cause the stick to rebound off to the left, avoiding the double hit. Do not drop your back arm as you stroke or your stick will curve up and you will either miscue or you will hit the object ball instead of the cue ball (from experience). You need to hit the cue ball with a lot of english. If you are too close to the center of the cue ball, you will double hit and the cue ball will fly into the rack. You should aim the tip as much on the edge of the cue ball as you can. Don't think about double hitting the cue ball. Allow yourself to feel the cue stick rebound off to the left. Eventually you will get the feel for this type of stroke and you will be able to execute it. If you are double hitting the cue ball, you either need to use more english (still high left, but more to the edge of the cue ball), or you need to aim more to the right (closer to pocket A). You may need to do both.
Playoff Shot # 2: This shot is harder. It is for me anyway. The cue ball is 1 balls width away from the blocking ball on the foot spot. Place the object ball about 1/8 inch away from the cue ball. Line the cue ball - object ball to the center of the pocket. As you get better at this shot, you can reduce this gap, but it is easier if you start with 1/8 inch. Your aim point this time is slightly right of the middle of the object ball. In other words, you are cutting the object ball, but because they are so close, it doesn't really have much effect on the object ball's path. Aim your cue stick through the cue ball at a point on the object ball that is slightly right of its center. You will be hitting this with low left english. On a clock, hit it at about 7 o'clock. Here is the important point. Do not use too much english. You need to use maybe 1 1/2 tips of english. This is a different stroke than the previous shot. You need to aim close to the center of the cue ball. If you keep miscuing, that probably means that you are using too much english (from experience). Once again, don't worry about the double hit. You are cutting the object ball with left english so the cue stick will naturally bounce out of the way. For this shot, I use a closed bridge. You need to make sure your stroke is perfectly straight. If it is not, you will either hit the cue ball with too much english (miscue), or you will hit it too close to the center (double hit).
I will be in Valley Forge at the Artistic Pool tournament. If anyone wants some help with these type of shots, come find me anytime. As long as I am not in a match or warming up for a match, I will be happy to help you.
Good luck.
Andy Segal
Bob Jewett wrote:> Billy Bob <billybobnospam@yahoo.com> wrote:>
How do you stroke/shoot a fouette shot?>
Either with a swerving stroke or a very flexible shaft.>
What angle is the cue elevated into the air?>
On some fouette shots, especially some follow shots, the stick is> elevated some and an open bridge allows the stick to fly in the> air to help avoid a second hit.>
Where do you strike the cue ball?>
Well off center.>
What angle in relation to a straight line going through the cue> > ball and object ball do you shoot the cue ball?>
Playing with inside english on a fouette helps you to avoid a second> hit. This relationship is explained on the SFBA web site in an
article> you can find on the "Misc Files" page described as:>
"An article about how to shoot shots when the cue ball is very> close to the object ball.">
However... Some fouette shots are played either full on the cue> ball, such as the "Spanish Dance" mentioned in the article above,> or even on the "wrong" side of the cue ball -- cut to the left> with right english.>
What speed?>
Usually these are fancy stroke shots with lots of speed. They> are standard in the Artistic Pool competition, and I have> recently posted a link that will get to the diagrams of shots in> that competition. It is also possible to use the technique with> slower shots. At that low end of the speed range, the stroke> blends into nip draw (or nip english).>
Here is a standard fouette for the pool table. (Sorry, I don't do> Wei.) Place an object ball on the foot spot. Place the cue ball a> quarter inch away from it and set so the shot is straight into a> head pocket, say the one to your left as viewed from the foot of> the table. Place another object ball on the brink of the other> head pocket. Shoot the first ball into the head pocket with> inside draw (right draw in this case) to draw the cue ball back> to the foot cushion and then spin to the left side cushion and up> to pocket the second, hanging object ball.>
On 2 Mar 2005 11:19:45 -0800, "Andy Segal" <andy@webtechosting.com> wrote:
I will try to explain how to shoot both of these:
Thanks, I would like to read tips on play-off shot #2 in the draw discipline. I have always thought it was cool to watch. I almost hit it twice, out of a whole lot of tries.
