So I'm practicing some 14.1 today and started to wonder: what stops most

runs?

Now the obvious answer to that is a miss. But that isn't necessarily so.

It could be a miss; or it could be a missed position play; or it could

have been bad judgment that leads to an untenable spot; or you just end up

frozen to a ball, IOW a bad roll.

So what stops your runs?

Lou Figueroa

So I'm practicing some 14.1 today and started to wonder: what stops

most runs?

Now the obvious answer to that is a miss. But that isn't necessarily

so. It could be a miss; or it could be a missed position play; or it

could have been bad judgment that leads to an untenable spot; or you

just end up frozen to a ball, IOW a bad roll.

So what stops your runs?

Lou Figueroa

1. Lou's Triangle of Deeeeaaaaaatttthhhh­!!

2. I don't want to talk about it.

Bob Keller

(yet)

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Other than a plain old miss:

- Nothing good to shoot after the new rack break shot.

- Breaking a two ball cluster near a rail and getting an unexpected leave.

- Playing position wrong, which can lead to the whole ball unravelling.

- Funny roll.

- Not executing the cue ball position needed.

dwhite

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I've been trying to improve on the two ball cluster thing on the rail.

If there's any chance I'll hit rail first, I shoot softer. If I'm

hitting ball first, I hit it with much more authority and sometimes,

more spin. Seems to be working.

Lou Figueroa

Dan White wrote:

1. Lou's Triangle of Deeeeaaaaaatttthhhh­!!

So I'm practicing some 14.1 today and started to wonder: what stops

most runs?

Now the obvious answer to that is a miss. But that isn't necessarily

so. It could be a miss; or it could be a missed position play; or it

could have been bad judgment that leads to an untenable spot; or you

just end up frozen to a ball, IOW a bad roll.

So what stops your runs?

Lou Figueroa

I've told a few people about the ToD and they all say the same thing: I

never noticed that before. But you're right -- it's a killer ­

Lou Figueroa

Bob Keller wrote:

I've been trying to improve on the two ball cluster thing on the rail.

If there's any chance I'll hit rail first, I shoot softer. If I'm

hitting ball first, I hit it with much more authority and sometimes,

more spin. Seems to be working.

Lou Figueroa

Dan White wrote:

On Apr 2 2008 8:03 AM, lfigueroa wrote:

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I must have been in an opiate fog when I read the ToD posts, 'cause I have

no recollection of what you're talking about.

Can you give me a clue or a brief summary about what it is?

TIA

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I think it came up in a 14.1 thread just a while ago:

The last thing I'd look at is the rack patterns you're playing. We all

know you're suppose to deal with problem balls and clusters right off,

but once the balls are reasonably open, there are still certain patterns

that lead to longer runs and one of them is what I call "airing out" the

balls. This is just shooting off balls, early on, that are close to

other balls. IOW, I don't want too many balls in the same area. I

especially want to get rid of any "triangles of death" -- a real run

killer. A "triangle of death" are three balls that all look nice and

innocent, but will screw up a run every time if you don't shoot off at

least one the balls in the TOD as soon as possible.

Here, the 1, 7, 8 need to be dealt with ASAP:

Lou Figueroa

Mark0 wrote:

On Apr 3 2008 8:11 AM, lfigueroa wrote:

<description of ToD>

Thanks for taking the time to explain ToD for me Lou. You're a mensch ­

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In trying to identify these triangles from hell I looked at a couple other

cuetables.

A table from the current 14.1 discussion... Would the 9, 6, 4 be

considered a ToD? Or are they a little too open.

And in your example, what say you about the 3, 8, 15?

-Duane Edwards << Can't identify a monkey in the woods

"Good enough to win money, not good enough to make it."

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In trying to identify these triangles from hell I looked at a couple other

cuetables.

A table from the current 14.1 discussion... Would the 9, 6, 4 be

considered a ToD? Or are they a little too open.

And in your example, what say you about the 3, 8, 15?

-Duane Edwards << Can't identify a monkey in the woods

"Good enough to win money, not good enough to make it."

http://diamondstopo­ckets.blogspot.com

On Apr 3 2008 6:22 PM, Thyme3421 wrote:

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Well, this will test if I get it or not....

I think you watch for the ToD later in the rack. But they could develop

into them after the break out. So maybe you *do* worry about them now....

--Mark0 <--wouldn't worry about them yet

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You watch for ToD once the balls are open. ToD look like they're open.

But they're not.

Lou Figueroa

Mark0 wrote: