Harry Everhart wrote:> "Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote:>
Enjoy your one shining moment while it lasts. We're going to be merciless>>in here in about six months. Duke next season...14-2 ACC, FF team.>>Carolina? 10-6, Sweet 16, and that's only if you keep May and Williams.
But they're not keeping either one. 5-11 is my pick.
"Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4262E6F1.3090409@nc.rr.com...> Harry Everhart wrote:> > "Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote:> >
Enjoy your one shining moment while it lasts. We're going to be
merciless> >>in here in about six months. Duke next season...14-2 ACC, FF team.> >>Carolina? 10-6, Sweet 16, and that's only if you keep May and Williams.>
But they're not keeping either one. 5-11 is my pick.
Ouch. I'm not going out on that limb, even if both bolt. 7-9 is as bad as it's gonna get; let's not forget the rest of the ACC (minus Duke) is gonna get worse, too.
"Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote:>>
Enjoy your one shining moment while it lasts. We're going to be >>> merciless>>> in here in about six months. Duke next season...14-2 ACC, FF team.>>> Carolina? 10-6, Sweet 16, and that's only if you keep May and Williams.>
But they're not keeping either one. 5-11 is my pick.
I'm just glad Roy's a good coach. I don't expect anything like the 8-20 year.
Harry Everhart 19 April 2005 02:38:48 [ permanent link ]
In article <JmW8e.11832$44.8668@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Mark Foskey <markunderscorefoskey@YouEnSee.EeDeeYou> wrote:> Charlie Board wrote:> > Harry Everhart wrote:> >
"Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote:> >>
Enjoy your one shining moment while it lasts. We're going to be > >>> merciless> >>> in here in about six months. Duke next season...14-2 ACC, FF team.> >>> Carolina? 10-6, Sweet 16, and that's only if you keep May and Williams.> >
But they're not keeping either one. 5-11 is my pick.>
I'm just glad Roy's a good coach. I don't expect anything like the 8-20 > year.
Better sharpen your editorial scissors - I did not say any of the above. Harry
Harry Everhart <harry@everhart.com> wrote in <news:harry-E6912C.18384818042005@comcast.dca.giganews.com>:
In article <JmW8e.11832$44.8668@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,> Mark Foskey <markunderscorefoskey@YouEnSee.EeDeeYou> wrote:>> Charlie Board wrote:>>> Harry Everhart wrote:>>>
"Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote:>>>>
Enjoy your one shining moment while it lasts. We're going to>>>>> be merciless in here in about six months. Duke next>>>>> season...14-2 ACC, FF team. Carolina? 10-6, Sweet 16, and>>>>> that's only if you keep May and Williams.>>>
But they're not keeping either one. 5-11 is my pick.>>
I'm just glad Roy's a good coach. I don't expect anything like>> the 8-20 year.>
Better sharpen your editorial scissors - I did not say any of the> above.
It was noted Tar Heel fan Charlie Board who left you in the attributions but snipped your quote.
Harry Everhart 19 April 2005 06:42:01 [ permanent link ]
»Q« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:> I don't either. Even if the record is pretty bad by UNC standards, I> don't expect to see a team's cohesion disintegrate so badly under Roy.
When the soldiers came home from Vietnam - American spats on them. Then - when the soldiers came home from Desert Storm - a comparative walk in the desert - we had parades for them.
They were the same soldiers - the American people were so ashamed of how they acted the first time - they went overboard the second time to heap praise on them for winning a one week war.
American soldiers slugged it out in Vietnam for 10 years - Congress wouldn't allow our generals to win that war.
If Roy falters - the Carolina fans won't treat him as badly because they are ashamed of what they did to Doherty. Also - you don't have another Judas waiting in the wings to take Roy's place. You guys are stuck with ol good ol.
Doherty was not the problem at UNC. Matt fixed the mess dean/gutridge left. The team Matt built won the NCAA thingy this year. shame on the UNC fans on what they did to him - begged him to leave ND - coach of year - then hang him as a scapegoat.
Edward M. Kennedy 19 April 2005 06:52:29 [ permanent link ]
"Harry Everhart" <harry@everhart.com> wrote
I don't either. Even if the record is pretty bad by UNC standards, I> > don't expect to see a team's cohesion disintegrate so badly under Roy.>
When the soldiers came home from Vietnam - American spats on them. Then> - when the soldiers came home from Desert Storm - a comparative walk in> the desert - we had parades for them.>
They were the same soldiers -
Whatever drugs you are on, I don't want any.
the American people were so ashamed of how> they acted the first time - they went overboard the second time to heap> praise on them for winning a one week war.
Yeah, Desert Storm troops were smokin' doobies, growing their hair long, fragging officers, and slaughtering civilians. I don't mean to condemn *all* the poor slobs and heros who endended up in Vietnam, but jeez Harry, you are dumber than a basketball.
Doherty was not the problem at UNC. Matt fixed the mess dean/gutridge> left. The team Matt built won the NCAA thingy this year. shame on the> UNC fans on what they did to him - begged him to leave ND - coach of> year - then hang him as a scapegoat.
You overplay the fact that you, a blind squirrel, found a small nut.
Harry Everhart 19 April 2005 18:20:01 [ permanent link ]
"Edward M. Kennedy of Duke university" wrote:> Not true -- I firmly support your right to be spineless and clueless.> You are an absolute idiot.> --Tedward
Dear Edward - I love when you talk dirty to me It is so much fun when one can crank up a pretend intellectual liberal to resort to intolerance and calling others names simply because they disagree about "basketball." I love you Ted Harry PS - By the way you have me confused again - which team do you like? - Duke or UNC? - you can't have both Hello in there?
Erik T. Nomad wrote:> "Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard@nc.rr.com> wrote in message> news:4262E6F1.3090409@nc.rr.com...>
Harry Everhart wrote:>>
"Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote:>>>
Enjoy your one shining moment while it lasts. We're going to be>>>
merciless>
in here in about six months. Duke next season...14-2 ACC, FF team.>>>>Carolina? 10-6, Sweet 16, and that's only if you keep May and Williams.>>>
But they're not keeping either one. 5-11 is my pick.>
Ouch. I'm not going out on that limb, even if both bolt. 7-9 is as bad as> it's gonna get; let's not forget the rest of the ACC (minus Duke) is gonna> get worse, too.
Yeah. But if they both bolt they'll be returning what...4-5 minutes per game or so of college experience*? 5-11 is factoring in both a good crop of freshmen and a down league... ;)
(* = that was a SWAG. Feel free to correct with a real number.)
"Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4265B21D.8080200@nc.rr.com...> Erik T. Nomad wrote:> > "Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard@nc.rr.com> wrote in message> > news:4262E6F1.3090409@nc.rr.com...> >
Harry Everhart wrote:> >>
"Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote:> >>>
Enjoy your one shining moment while it lasts. We're going to be> >>>
merciless> >
in here in about six months. Duke next season...14-2 ACC, FF team.> >>>>Carolina? 10-6, Sweet 16, and that's only if you keep May and
Williams.> >>>
But they're not keeping either one. 5-11 is my pick.> >
Ouch. I'm not going out on that limb, even if both bolt. 7-9 is as bad
it's gonna get; let's not forget the rest of the ACC (minus Duke) is
gonna> > get worse, too.>
Yeah. But if they both bolt they'll be returning what...4-5 minutes per> game or so of college experience*? 5-11 is factoring in both a good> crop of freshmen and a down league... ;)>
(* = that was a SWAG. Feel free to correct with a real number.)
That may in fact be a real number. At any rate, I get your point. There are some parallels between Carolina '05 and Duke '99; no need for anyone to remind me that we didn't actually win the championship that year, but we did lose the bulk of our team, as UNC is about to do. We did just fine in '00 despite the doomsayers, and while I think we lost a little less and gained a little more in our recruiting class than UNC, Roy can still coach and the rest of the league ain't exactly top-notch. I have trouble envisioning 5-11, but goddamn would I ever love it.
Edward M. Kennedy 20 April 2005 20:26:36 [ permanent link ]
"Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote
Yeah. But if they both bolt they'll be returning what...4-5 minutes per> > game or so of college experience*? 5-11 is factoring in both a good> > crop of freshmen and a down league... ;)> >
(* = that was a SWAG. Feel free to correct with a real number.)>
That may in fact be a real number.
Not even close. Noel got 17 mpg (and a whopping 4 ppg). They actually returning about 40 mmp, which is still a huge dent out of a total 200 mpg. Even worse, as you obviously sensed, when most of the minutes are garbage tiime.
When you account for the fact that 7 players are scoring a nice spread of 1.6-3.8 minutes, and two more average 4.5 and 6.3, all you have returning is 2-3 role players and a bunch of scrubs.
At any rate, I get your point. There> are some parallels between Carolina '05 and Duke '99; no need for anyone to> remind me that we didn't actually win the championship that year, but we did> lose the bulk of our team, as UNC is about to do. We did just fine in '00> despite the doomsayers, and while I think we lost a little less and gained a> little more in our recruiting class than UNC, Roy can still coach and the> rest of the league ain't exactly top-notch. I have trouble envisioning> 5-11, but goddamn would I ever love it.
Losing your top seven scorers is pretty frickin' devastating.
Nobody except Roy Williams has any idea how good UNC will be next year. Toast is a serious possibility. 8-20 is probably a real stretch though. An NCAA bid would mean the freshman class is on par with the Fab Five.
"Edward M. Kennedy" <nospam@baconburger.com> wrote in message news:d45vto$8jn$1@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu...> "Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote
At any rate, I get your point. There> > are some parallels between Carolina '05 and Duke '99; no need for anyone
remind me that we didn't actually win the championship that year, but we
lose the bulk of our team, as UNC is about to do. We did just fine in
'00> > despite the doomsayers, and while I think we lost a little less and gained a> > little more in our recruiting class than UNC, Roy can still coach and
rest of the league ain't exactly top-notch. I have trouble envisioning> > 5-11, but goddamn would I ever love it. >
Losing your top seven scorers is pretty frickin' devastating.
I prefer the word "hilarious", but to each his own.
Nobody except Roy Williams has any idea how good UNC will be> next year. Toast is a serious possibility. 8-20 is probably a real> stretch though. An NCAA bid would mean the freshman class is on> par with the Fab Five.
Making a radical off-season change in your woofing strategy, Ted?
Edward M. Kennedy 20 April 2005 21:17:30 [ permanent link ]
"Erik T. Nomad" <erikthenomad@hotmail.com> wrote
Losing your top seven scorers is pretty frickin' devastating.>
I prefer the word "hilarious", but to each his own.
The levity of the situation is dependent upon who is devastated. But yes, this situation is hilarious.
Nobody except Roy Williams has any idea how good UNC will be> > next year. Toast is a serious possibility. 8-20 is probably a real> > stretch though. An NCAA bid would mean the freshman class is on> > par with the Fab Five.>
Making a radical off-season change in your woofing strategy, Ted?
No. The Fab Five had decent upperclass support. If UNC gets to the Sweet 16, those Cardinals just elected the wrong Pope.
On Sun, 24 Apr, tadamsmar wrote:> Yeah, but who would of thunk it:>
Sean May, the unstoppable big man of 2005...>
I think this means that the NBA impact on college basketball has> finally reached it's limit. There is nobody left worth taking.
That's cold. And I think not entirely true. Looking at the past laundry list of big men taken way early from college and/or from high school, I don't see many that would have dominated Sean. Well, not from the last few years, anyway.
There's something to be said for finely polished fundamental skills. The boy has awesome footwork combined with very good hands and is smart.
Harry Everhart 28 April 2005 21:50:29 [ permanent link ]
In article <1114702724.427903.199970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> wrote:> I noticed Shelden Williams is staying to win a> championship. Doesn't he know that he is playing in the> greatest championship-game choke program of all time?>
Hope he pulls a Trajan Langdon in the final seconds of> next year's championship game.
Hi Tadam -
In order to lose the championship game you must first get into it. To me getting into the championship game is the sign of a winner. Like Duke winning six of the last 7 ACC championship games. There are a lot of folks that would like those choking odds.
I admire Williams for sticking around. I also admire and respect the four UNC guys for going pro. They are smart taking advantage of a market that will not be there next year.
We will see if Roy can do as good a job next years as K did this year in a similar circumstance.
