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UNC + Referees 40 Illinois 27 at the Half

Mimus 5 April 2005 06:12:26
 This is the worst- officiated, and most one- sidedly poorly-
officiated, game that I can remember:

You can safely give the referees 12 points of the UNC lead.

Jesus H. Christ.

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Dgs 5 April 2005 06:25:35 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:12:26 GMT, tinmimus99@hotmail.­com (mimus)
wrote:
This is the worst- officiated, and most one- sidedly poorly->officiated,­ game that I can remember:>
You can safely give the referees 12 points of the UNC lead.>

No doubt that the officiating is way in UNC's favor...but Illinois
don't have any sort of answer for anything and the players clearly
don't believe they can win. And of course...just like I've been
saying the whole tournament...Illino­is has finally died by the three.

Our best chance was to have Villanova get beat but the refs saw to it
that one didn't happen either.
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Larry R Harrison Jr 5 April 2005 06:32:21 permanent link ]
 Hmm, Carolina with 7 fouls, Illi with 6. I don't see it.
"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail­.com> wrote in message
news:4251f377.45716­584@news.giganews.co­m...> This is the worst- officiated, and most one- sidedly poorly-> officiated, game that I can remember:>
You can safely give the referees 12 points of the UNC lead.>
Jesus H. Christ.>
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Mimus 5 April 2005 07:31:34 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:12:26 GMT, tinmimus99@hotmail.­com (mimus)
wrote:
This is the worst- officiated, and most one- sidedly poorly->officiated,­ game that I can remember:>
You can safely give the referees 12 points of the UNC lead.>
Jesus H. Christ.

Illinois wins by 3, or 7.

Without the refs.

It *was* more balanced in the second half, with UI getting away with a
face- rake-- should've been a foul-- and some moving screens, but that
margin from the first half was decisive.

And I didn't even notice what had been happening to Augustine, which
was totally gross.

Disheartening. Just very disheartening.

So long, 'til November.


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Daniel Seriff 5 April 2005 07:37:29 permanent link ]
 And has thou slain the Jabberwock, mimus?
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:12:26 GMT, tinmimus99@hotmail.­com (mimus)> wrote:>
This is the worst- officiated, and most one- sidedly poorly->> officiated, game that I can remember:>>
You can safely give the referees 12 points of the UNC lead.>>
Jesus H. Christ.>
Illinois wins by 3, or 7.>
Without the refs.>
It *was* more balanced in the second half, with UI getting away with a> face- rake-- should've been a foul-- and some moving screens, but that> margin from the first half was decisive.>
And I didn't even notice what had been happening to Augustine, which> was totally gross.>
Disheartening. Just very disheartening.

It was no different from last year's officiating. Just replace May with
Okafor.

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Elaich 5 April 2005 07:58:21 permanent link ]
 tinmimus99@hotmail.c­om (mimus) wrote in
news:4251f377.45716­584@news.giganews.co­m:
This is the worst- officiated, and most one- sidedly poorly-> officiated, game that I can remember:

I don't know what game you watched, but it apparently wasn't the same one I
did.

Granted: the foul calls on Augustine were ticky-tacky. However, Illinois
entire offense was built on illegal screens and picks, not a single one of
which were called. I didn't see any particular favoritism, but I'll agree
the officiating was lousy.

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Daniel Seriff 5 April 2005 08:13:25 permanent link ]
 And has thou slain the Jabberwock, carlyonders@gmail.c­om?
as if that matters? are you SERIOUSLY going to contest the fact that> Ill got away with at LEAST 10 moving screens? are you?

Please provide a link to a relevant post of mine in which I say anything at
all about moving screens.

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Daniel Seriff 5 April 2005 08:22:50 permanent link ]
 And has thou slain the Jabberwock, carlyonders@gmail.c­om?
well, are you? I didn't fucking think so, bitches.

Are you really this clueless, or do you just get off on having everyone think
you're catastrophically retarded?

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ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

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Navin 5 April 2005 08:24:19 permanent link ]
 Daniel Seriff wrote:> And has thou slain the Jabberwock, carlyonders@gmail.c­om?>
well, are you? I didn't fucking think so, bitches.>
Are you really this clueless, or do you just get off on having everyone think > you're catastrophically retarded?

Are the two options mutually exclusive?

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Daniel Seriff 5 April 2005 08:28:49 permanent link ]
 And has thou slain the Jabberwock, navin?
Daniel Seriff wrote:>> And has thou slain the Jabberwock, carlyonders@gmail.c­om?>>
well, are you? I didn't fucking think so, bitches.>>
Are you really this clueless, or do you just get off on having everyone >> think you're catastrophically retarded?>
Are the two options mutually exclusive?

I dunno. Maybe, maybe not. Do you make a meaningful distinction between
people who just act like idiots and actual, bona fide idiots?

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Tony 5 April 2005 22:50:04 permanent link ]
 On 5 Apr 2005 08:04:11 -0700, carlyonders@gmail.c­om wrote:
You're an understandably bitter idiot. I was defending my team when>OTHERS started decrying "the refs are wearing carolina blue", et al.>
We found a way to win despite the lack of calls on Illinois' 10-14>illegal/movin­g screens in the 2nd half. That's the bottom line.>
The cream rises to the top, my friend, and it did last night. That's>the sub-bottom line.


There's no way they are going to let the National Championship be
a blow out. That is where it was heading before the moving screens
were not called.
tonyf
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Erik T. Nomad 5 April 2005 23:21:14 permanent link ]
 
"Tony" <fantea1@bellsouth.­com> wrote in message
news:dcn551th76k11v­ja47lo8c6q9gdtvcppfb­@4ax.com...> On 5 Apr 2005 08:04:11 -0700, carlyonders@gmail.c­om wrote:>
You're an understandably bitter idiot. I was defending my team when> >OTHERS started decrying "the refs are wearing carolina blue", et al.> >
We found a way to win despite the lack of calls on Illinois' 10-14> >illegal/moving screens in the 2nd half. That's the bottom line.> >
The cream rises to the top, my friend, and it did last night. That's> >the sub-bottom line.>
There's no way they are going to let the National Championship be> a blow out.

That's why they didn't call all those moving screens by Duke against UNLV in
'90.

E


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RDWinthrop 6 April 2005 02:42:52 permanent link ]
 
I notice that no one comments on the subject matter of my post - the> 10-14 illegal/moving screens Illinois was not called for in the 2nd> half. That's fine, you can hide behind my demeanor if you like.

Okay, I'll play ...

Whether a screen is legal is a pretty simple call, assuming that one
a). knows the applicable rules; and b). clearly sees the play.

Thus, anyone with a tape who wants to go back and mark the time at
each of these (un)calls, please do so and post them here.

I never did D-1 but put two decades of prep officiating under my belt
and have the NCAA rules at hand, will review ...

Anything to get past bickering ...

regards - rdw
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Daniel Seriff 6 April 2005 04:02:50 permanent link ]
 And has thou slain the Jabberwock, carlyonders@gmail.c­om?
I notice that no one comments on the subject matter of my post - the> 10-14 illegal/moving screens Illinois was not called for in the 2nd> half. That's fine, you can hide behind my demeanor if you like.

Your demeanor tells us everything we need to know about you. You might have a
shred of credibility if your first post had come sometime before Jan 28, and
wasn't a self-congratulatory­ crowing over a Maryland loss. In short, you have
absolutely no claim whatsoever to objectivity.

We have all seen your ilk a hundred times before. You are a woofing,
front-running little yipper of absolutely no consequence whatsoever. You
wouldn't know original thought if it jumped up and fucked you in the ear.
You're a U$C fan during football season and a Miami fan during baseball
season.

You probably don't even know where to find a copy of the official rulebook,
and I'd be surprised if you had ever actually read it, so your whining about
moving screens isn't anything special. The fact remains that you're the only
one bitching about it.

Well, you and Billy Packer. So there's that.

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Drew 6 April 2005 04:58:08 permanent link ]
 "sopranos" <chevysno1@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
news:1112747210.338­311.240470@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com.­..> quit whining you illinois baby

I can't figure out whether you were responding to the Kentucky
fan, the Texas fan, or myself (a MSU fan). I can tell you are
an idiot.

:-)­


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Perusion Hostmaster 6 April 2005 05:27:18 permanent link ]
 On 2005-04-06, sopranos <chevysno1@yahoo.co­m> wrote:> quit whining you illinois baby>

I haven't seen a single known Illinois fan whining here. I am one, and
in my opinion the game was very winnable and Illinois flat didn't do it.
Carolina is tough, and Illinois wasn't tougher.

They let us back in the game with poor third-quarter shot selection, but
then made some plays at the end. If we had shot a little better, I think
it might have been different.

WRT the officiating, it wasn't great but it went both ways. As far as
Augustine goes, he richly deserved to foul out because he was reaching
without playing position. At least three out of five of his fouls were
ones that are called most every time, i.e. hitting the man with the ball
on the arm. One was a blatant pushoff with the hand. The charge seemed a
bit unfair considering what May got away with, but even that was the
proper call.

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Daniel Seriff 6 April 2005 06:20:14 permanent link ]
 And has thou slain the Jabberwock, carlyonders@gmail.c­om?
Nice try champ. Hope that was fun.

At the end of the day, you're still the same clueless, bandwagon-hopping
newbie who will disappear in two weeks, and you still don't have a viable
argument.

You look stupid arguing with that blank wall over by the bathroom. Try
exercising a bit of self-awareness.

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I'm madder than a pervert with palsy trying to draw a vagina on an
Etch-a-Sketch.

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Daniel Seriff 6 April 2005 06:50:04 permanent link ]
 And has thou slain the Jabberwock, carlyonders@gmail.c­om?
You're absolutely right, Seriff.>
I did jump on the UNC bandwagon back in 92, when I enrolled there for> my freshman year. Been riding it ever since, through 2 championships,> many final fours, and 8-20. And I'll never get off it. That I never> posted here before seems to be a major affront to people like yourself.> I could care less. Killfile me, or just shut your mouth.

It's not the fact that you never posted here before that bothers people,
although that doesn't really help your case.

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I'm scheming. This is my scheming face. First I raise this eyebrow, then I
raise the other eyebrow.

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Perusion Hostmaster 6 April 2005 07:09:41 permanent link ]
 On 2005-04-06, Daniel Seriff <microtonal@nospam.­org> wrote:> Given that no one here (or anywhere else, for that matter) has denied that > Illinois set illegal screens, you really don't have an argument.>

And given that every team uses those self-same screens to some degree,
it is really not much of an argument.

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