<kstarheel@cox.net> wrote in message news:1111906306.823424.270500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> Everyone keeps yapping about UNC being the most talented team, but I> don't know about that. They both have players that will play pro, but> Illinois boys seem more 'built' for the NBA. Williams, Head, Powell...> those guys are solid. Dee Brown is quicker than.... Ivory Latta and> Augustine does a great job for them. I think the 'talent' edge is> actually leaning towards Illinois. Jawad has messed up the 'best 5'> theory by absolutely sucking since.... well, for awhile.>
The whole key would be McCants not being a headcase and Jawad not being> a no-show. If that happend, it would look a lot like Wake vs Illinois> earlier this year.>
Having said that, UNC is a loooong way from there. Tough game today> and even tougher against Kentucky or Mich State.>
This is the worst anti-weauxf I have read in months.
<kstarheel@cox.net> wrote in message news:1111906306.823424.270500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> Everyone keeps yapping about UNC being the most talented team, but I> don't know about that. They both have players that will play pro, but> Illinois boys seem more 'built' for the NBA. Williams, Head, Powell...> those guys are solid. Dee Brown is quicker than.... Ivory Latta and> Augustine does a great job for them. I think the 'talent' edge is> actually leaning towards Illinois. Jawad has messed up the 'best 5'> theory by absolutely sucking since.... well, for awhile.
Wow...it's nice to hear some real Illinois talk in this group finally. Looks like it took tonight's win to finally convince some people that the Illini are for real.
Dee runs too hot and cold...I'm not sure about him in the NBA.
Deron Williams and Roger Powell...now your talking.
The whole key would be McCants not being a headcase and Jawad not being> a no-show. If that happend, it would look a lot like Wake vs Illinois> earlier this year.>
Having said that, UNC is a loooong way from there. Tough game today> and even tougher against Kentucky or Mich State.>
On 26 Mar 2005 22:51:46 -0800, kstarheel@cox.net wrote:
Everyone keeps yapping about UNC being the most talented team, but I>don't know about that. They both have players that will play pro, but>Illinois boys seem more 'built' for the NBA. Williams, Head, Powell...>those guys are solid. Dee Brown is quicker than.... Ivory Latta and>Augustine does a great job for them. I think the 'talent' edge is>actually leaning towards Illinois. Jawad has messed up the 'best 5'>theory by absolutely sucking since.... well, for awhile.>
The whole key would be McCants not being a headcase and Jawad not being>a no-show. If that happend, it would look a lot like Wake vs Illinois>earlier this year.>
Having said that, UNC is a loooong way from there. Tough game today>and even tougher against Kentucky or Mich State.
there is no way that UNC stays on the court with Illinois, but I doubt we get to find out. We have some talent but there is such a thing as having TOO much talent and too little cohesion. Maybe if Roy had another year with these guys, but I don't see it being this year.
On Sun, 27 Mar, gd wrote:> there is no way that UNC stays on the court with Illinois, but I doubt> we get to find out. We have some talent but there is such a thing as> having TOO much talent and too little cohesion. Maybe if Roy had> another year with these guys, but I don't see it being this year.
After that last few minutes of defense Illinois played against Arizona I'm not sure I want to play them, either. Scary stuff. If they do that against us, I don't think we can beat them. Once the ball leaves Ray's hands we're screwed.
On 27 Mar 2005 15:01:54 GMT, Donnie Barnes <djbSPAMSUCKS@donniebarnes.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar, gd wrote:>> there is no way that UNC stays on the court with Illinois, but I doubt>> we get to find out. We have some talent but there is such a thing as>> having TOO much talent and too little cohesion. Maybe if Roy had>> another year with these guys, but I don't see it being this year.>
After that last few minutes of defense Illinois played against Arizona I'm>not sure I want to play them, either. Scary stuff. If they do that>against us, I don't think we can beat them. Once the ball leaves Ray's>hands we're screwed.>
I just hope we look good in losing to Wiscy.>
I'd sort of like to beat Wiscy. >
--Donnie
me too, but I think Wisconsin is gonna be THAT team this year.......the late round spoiler that plays their 'A' game at the wrong time. We know the drill.
Jack D. Slater 28 March 2005 01:17:50 [ permanent link ]
so yer saying the better team won then - good observation.
"elaich" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:3aoluaF6b1qo8U4@individual.net...> kstarheel@cox.net wrote in> news:1111937695.982244.303970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:>>
I would say it took a huge choke job by Arizona. Without the AZ mistakes> and blowing a huge lead, Illinois would be watching from home.
gd wrote:> On 26 Mar 2005 22:51:46 -0800, kstarheel@cox.net wrote:>
there is no way that UNC stays on the court with Illinois, but I doubt> we get to find out. We have some talent but there is such a thing as> having TOO much talent and too little cohesion. Maybe if Roy had> another year with these guys, but I don't see it being this year.>
I just hope we look good in losing to Wiscy.
How about we look bad in beating Wiscy?
If we play our best we stay on the court with Illinois. If they play their best they handle us anyway.
If we don't play close to our best we lose to MSU.
Geoffrey F. Green 28 March 2005 06:35:11 [ permanent link ]
In article <wZJ1e.7097$z.4872@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Mark Foskey <markunderscorefoskey@YouEnSee.EeDeeYou> wrote:
How about we look bad in beating Wiscy?>
If we play our best we stay on the court with Illinois. If they play > their best they handle us anyway.>
If we don't play close to our best we lose to MSU.
MSU really impressed me; of course, they only lost 6 games all year, so it's not like they were a bad team, but to listen to the folks on r.s.b.c., they were a bunch of chokers who couldn't win an important game to save their lives.
Duke has now lost five Sweet 16 games in Coach K's career, and each of the three previous teams (Indiana '87, Florida '00, Indiana '02, Kansas '03) has made it to the national title game. So at least it's heartening that when Duke has been upset in the S16, it's been to teams that were clearly very good.
Mark Foskey <markunderscorefoskey@YouEnSee.EeDeeYou> wrote in <news:wZJ1e.7097$z.4872@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>:
I just hope we look good in losing to Wiscy.>
How about we look bad in beating Wiscy?>
If we play our best we stay on the court with Illinois. If they> play their best they handle us anyway.>
If we don't play close to our best we lose to MSU.
I agree with both assessments.
I'm kinda horrified by the toughness of the three teams that made it though OTs to get to St. Louis. I think UNC can play at that level, but those three have proved that they are playing at that level right now.
"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2@stuebegreen.com> wrote in news:geoff- usenet2-F89D2A.21351127032005@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
Duke has now lost five Sweet 16 games in Coach K's career, and each of > the three previous teams (Indiana '87, Florida '00, Indiana '02, > Kansas '03) has made it to the national title game.
3 = 4?
So at least it's > heartening that when Duke has been upset in the S16, it's been to > teams that were clearly very good.
No, it's because by beating Dook, they inherit the easy path to the championship game that the committee set up for Dook
Geoffrey F. Green 28 March 2005 08:02:34 [ permanent link ]
In article <Xns9626E863614BKubez@66.26.32.9>, Kubez <president@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2@stuebegreen.com> wrote in news:geoff-> usenet2-F89D2A.21351127032005@comcast.dca.giganews.com:>
Duke has now lost five Sweet 16 games in Coach K's career, and each of > > the three previous teams (Indiana '87, Florida '00, Indiana '02, > > Kansas '03) has made it to the national title game. >
3 = 4?
Math is hard. At least I managed to do "each ... has" properly.
Marek W. Lugowski 28 March 2005 08:30:52 [ permanent link ]
»Q« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:
I'm kinda horrified by the toughness of the three teams that made it>though OTs to get to St. Louis. I think UNC can play at that level,>but those three have proved that they are playing at that level right>now.
Your point is well taken: UNC has showed nothing much, so far. They had only two nontrivial games, against Villanova and Wisconsin, and they almost lost the former and were stretched to win the second. And theirs was the easiest path by far.
The other 3 Final Four teams are much better competition than what UNC has seen. (Although Villanova comes close.)
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:28:44 GMT, Mark Foskey <markunderscorefoskey@YouEnSee.EeDeeYou> wrote:
gd wrote:>> On 26 Mar 2005 22:51:46 -0800, kstarheel@cox.net wrote:>>
there is no way that UNC stays on the court with Illinois, but I doubt>> we get to find out. We have some talent but there is such a thing as>> having TOO much talent and too little cohesion. Maybe if Roy had>> another year with these guys, but I don't see it being this year.>>
I just hope we look good in losing to Wiscy.>
How about we look bad in beating Wiscy?
oh yeah, that works too.>
If we play our best we stay on the court with Illinois. If they play >their best they handle us anyway.>
If we don't play close to our best we lose to MSU.
